The Darwin From Evolv!!!

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mwa102464

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Exactly! I just knew you would be one that sees the wonder that this unit brings to the vaping world. I can't believe YOU actually had the patience and willpower to wait this long to get one :)

I can't actually believe I didn't pull the trigger sooner myself Ski, I wanted to make sure any issues where clear and as far as I'm concerned they are. Adjusting the Wattage to me seems better and I'm really loving this dam thing so far. Everything I have put on my Darwin has outperformed any other mod, the way this thing fits in my back pocket and the cool little belt holder for the Darwin that Drew was kind enough to include was just super nice of him and will be used daily, as well as some other goodies in the satin baggie as usual, the guy just does a super first class Job ! Thanks my old friend Drew ( Skirt man ):facepalm:
 
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So I found something that I would really really like to put on my darwin but I am quite sure that it won't close with it :( It is quite interesting though GoodSense Vapor - 306DCA Chorn you will probably like this one ;)

Looks like the drip shield from hell! Interesting piece of gear, but I've already bought too much stuff lately . . .
 

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and the cool little belt holder for the Darwin that Drew was kind enough to include

I dig those holsters. I didn't realize my Darwin would come with one, so I ordered one at the same time and wound up with two. No big deal, though, as they fit pretty much every PV I have perfectly
 

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Looks like the drip shield from hell! Interesting piece of gear, but I've already bought too much stuff lately . . .

Yea, it really does :lol: It might even be worth taking off when I have to put the darwin in my pocket if it doesn't fold down. Not like it's going to leak anywhere... I like the idea of adjustable airflow and that they are making one for the I06 atomizer which only has a really boring drip tip at the moment :facepalm:
 

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I had typed out a long post and hit the wrong button and deleted the whole thing. :(
To sum up what I said.......To each their own. If you listen to everybody else you will probably never buy one.
One question here. How many do you see that, compared to other mods, end up on the classys. Not many. Most I have seen was because someone hit hard times and needed the money not because it wasn't a good device.
If you don't like it, believe me, someone else will surly by it.
 

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Well, I have REALLY tried to stay out of this igetchya69 debacle. Unfortunately, our "mate" scott continues to perpetuate the duck wearing a rabbit costume and now he is bringing it over here directly. So, let's have a bit of fun and "review" the "review" (if one can really call it that). What is it that they say - if it looks like a DUCK, waddles like a DUCK, quacks like a DUCK - it is probably a DUCK right??

So, lets take a quickie look see into this "review" and the "reviewer":
- igetchya has made more ecig "review" videos than probably any other vapor on this planet and he frequently starts by telling us he got the product free for "review" purposes. We have all seen the long list of "free devices" venders and manufactures are lining up to give away for "free" for "review" purposes.

- igetchya claims above
i run a video production company which has absolutely nothing to do with reviews in any way shape or form.........reviews are just a hobby
and yet One of his web pages is: Video Production Services (which is all about ecigs) and the other web page: E-Cig-Reviews.com - Electronic cigarette and E-Liquid video reviews, tutorials, user guides and discount codes (ALSO all about ecigs)
and
{from his website}

On the video page it is clearly printed:
Please contact us for pricing and details

Ok, now lets have a look into what his royal vaping highness has to say:
He complains about having to look at the screen and press button to see the operating data. This might have been the stupidest comment of all because he goes on to say he likes "another device" (clearly ProVari) which requires 13 button presses (while looking at screen) just to see the ohms. As we know, to see V, Ω, and batt (no AMPS gauge at all) --> on Provari takes at least 25 button presses - ALL WHILE LOOKING AT THE SCREEN.

In his Darwin "review" thread, his next post is promoting Provari (in a DARWIN "review" thread??) - hmmmmm....

The unit he "borrowed" for the review was supposedly "only a week old" but clearly the device had been soaked in juice. You can see the residue all around the screen edge. I do not know for certain why the button on that particular device is sticking so much (especially when so few have this complaint) but can only guess it got soaked with juice (causing the stickiness). In addition, clearly he spent little to no time with the device so how could his "review" be any kind of real "review" at all? Possibly a "first impressions" but it is pretty clear that this guy had an agenda to bash Darwin and promote ProVari (in the SAME THREAD) - not to mention the home page of his reviews website he calls Provari "one of the hottest and most sought after electronic cigarette devices on the planet".

He clearly did absolutely no research to learn anything about the device or actual user experience with the device (he claims 50% of users complain about the button - really? I have read EVERY Darwin post in ECF and seen only few button complaints. This thread is over 7700 posts long and I have read them ALL. I have not seen too many button complaints. So, either his "50%" is totally fictitious or he went and counted posts in the British forums (where the device has only been released less than a month ago) - I suspect the former.

For such an experienced vape reviewer, he seems to not realize that 4.3 watts setting with a 1.7 Ωs atty will still produce 8+ watts. He obviously could not be bothered to look at the screen to see 3.6 volts and calculate the actual (and clearly he has not read any of the MANY posts/discussions about LR attys/cartos on Darwin). So, I am guessing this guy somehow thinks the batt can go as low as 2.7 volts (which, btw, no device does as it would be pushing any vaping battery below it's safety threshold). He must be a real vaping master.

After his initial post about Darwin, he got called out on some points (replies in the thread) and he proceeded to make 4 or 5 extremely defensive posts lamely attempting to justify/defend his pathetic bashing of the most advanced vaping device on the market and one of the most popular too (all while clearly pushing ProVari on his Home-page of his website and pushing ProVari in his Darwin "bashing" post).

I could go on, and probably find lots more to have fun with, but the point is pretty clear. This guy is for sale, clearly is trying to push the only potentially competing device (ProVari - which I think most (if not all) of us respect as a quality device and many of us have or have had at least one), and clearly trying to cover up his agenda with all these defensive posts.

So, I guess it really does look like a DUCK, quacks like a DUCK, waddles like a DUCK and smells like a DUCK too - I will leave the rest to all of you to decide for yourselves.

As for scott/IGETCHYA - if you had any sense of professionalism, or even common sense, you would have realized that if you bring your self promoting defensiveness here - into a 7700+ posts thread of Darwin enthusiasts... Well, you must have seen that you were asking for (in your first "review" thread) and now BEGGING for (by bringing your defensiveness here into THIS thread) to get some sort of point/counter-point response like this one.

So, scotty/IGETCHYA, P-L-E-A-S-E (I am beggin you - for your own sake) just drop the Darwin and go on to other things. We know what Darwin is and isn't, what it can and cannot do, its strengths and weaknesses and clearly (by the simple facts that it is almost always sold out, sold out in England within hours, and C'fieds FS posts rarely last a single day) an extremely popular device. We know there is no such thing as a perfect device. And, you should be ashamed of yourself for all this pettiness and continued bashing that you continue to defend and propagate instead of actually considering the fact that as one of the most prolific "reviewer(s)" you might actually have some responsibility to the millions of others who are not as experienced as we are. Those people are actually looking for reliable and trustworthy advice and guidance. Clearly your moral and ethical compass must have gotten dropped into your toilet and flushed away.

Please do not bother responding because while this has been fun, we here have better things to post about like blue tarps, T-shirts, "downward facing dog" and lots more stuff that is way more interesting and entertaining than seeing you defend your agenda.
 
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sigh.......2 separate websites which for some reason you are confusing:-

e-cig-reviews.com - a website for reviews and my own personal tutorials



igetcha69Films.com - my business website for video production and photography services.........nothing to do with reviews whatsoever and has absolutely NO affiliate links or paid advertising. it is for tutorial videos and product photography of which i of course charge a fee for and i must be doing something right as im always fully booked for weeks in advance ;)


its really not hard to understand is it?


i only responded because false allegations have been made.........as for the rest of your comments and personal insults, im too mature to be drawn into childish squabbles

cheers

scott
 
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Please do not bother responding because while this has been fun, we here have better things to post about like blue tarps, T-shirts, "downward facing dog" and lots more stuff that is way more interesting and entertaining than seeing you defend your agenda.

NB also the Mazzola how can we forget the beloved Mazzola??? Happy vapes man and power (or wattage) to the rectangular, pixie screen, swing arm loving family of Dariwn owners. Now let's take a little trip to the gutter and vape away. Krisb, KD where are you our little wicked vixens???
 

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Scott, You cannot be INDEPENDENT and do reviews if you have business that is sutained by those reviews....You can call it personal but if your recieving affiliate fees or any type of reimbursement , then its considered a business...May be that its your personal business but still a business. No matter how you sugar coat it or say this dosen't pay for that, it is money coming into your hands. Its not dishonorable to run a business? Its dishonorable to hide and deny that you are making money by favoring certain products and vendors that pay your bills. Here are some direct quotes from ECig reviews.

Rather than charging fixed monthly payments to advertise on this site, E-Cig-Reviews.com employs the use of affiliate links, banners, and discount codes to help raise revenue to cover the costs of web hosting, maintenance, development, competitions, giveaways etc etc. Please be assured that any supplier who advertises on this site has been strenuously vetted by E-Cig-Reviews.com and we are happy to personally recommend them as honest and trustworthy.


Are you a supplier who would like a review or wants to advertise on the site?


Its no big deal , but I say Quack also...Im trying to be a civil as possible here. In fact Im going to leave your last comment in fairness,, but please refrain from posting here in my subforum as I am not interested in promoting your business here, for obvious reasons and would like to be as positive as possible. I wouldnt come into your thread and discredit you so please dont come here.
Thanks and Cheers
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my reviews website gets a lot of traffic........i always thought it was quite common for popular sites to have advertising is it not? yes i get a revenue from the advertising, but that most certainly does not mean i get paid to record a review!
my disclaimer is making people aware that a revenue is generated from the advertising on that site.........i didnt have to add that disclaimer did i!

but my production website is a completely separate thing and i will of course charge a fee if a supplier wants me to shoot their product photography or wants me to produce a tutorial video (tutorial NOT review!!)

im not aware that its against any vaping law to produce tutorials or shoot product shots if you are a reviewer?


cheers

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Now back to our requlary scheduled show:

Vaping hard on some DIY cinnamon roll at 9.2W drawing 2.1 amps and pushing 4.5V against 2.1 ohms after one hell of a day at work. Got a nice Ice cold Duvel to go along with that too. Not far off from a second one. Vaping the Darwin with a nice 8.5% Belgian beer = relief.
 

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Your correct there are no laws...Its a moral compass thing that Nebula mentioned... Its just ummm, for lack of a better term, pooping where you eat... You keep mentioning the other site...Honestly Ive never been there. I copied what I posted from Ecig Reviews and your signature line...
I think we are beating a dead umm, duck here?
Good Luck in your business and I hope you make lots of videos and money, however you see fit.
Cheers,
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my reviews website gets a lot of traffic........i always thought it was quite common for popular sites to have advertising is it not? yes i get a revenue from the advertising, but that most certainly does not mean i get paid to record a review!
my disclaimer is making people aware that a revenue is generated from the advertising on that site.........i didnt have to add that disclaimer did i!

but my production website is a completely separate thing and i will of course charge a fee if a supplier wants me to shoot their product photography or wants me to produce a tutorial video (tutorial NOT review!!)

im not aware that its against any vaping law to produce tutorials or shoot product shots if you are a reviewer?


cheers

scott


Lets set aside the paid/not getting paid argument for a moment. I have two issues.

First out of respect, you should refrain from coming into someone else's thread and causing a ruckus. It may not be a set in stone rule, but it is a respect issue. Whether you intend to or not, every time you come in here you are advertising yourself and your site.

Second, I though your review was unfair to this particular device.

I really think if you are going to review a device, you should take adequate time to review it properly and not base a review on "first impressions" You should review one or more of the same device and spend an adequate amount of time with it so that you can really understand its strengths and weaknesses.

I am not satisfied that you did that in this case. I believe if you are going to tell people that you are someone who reviews devices, you owe that to the devices and also the people who are watching you.

This is just my opinion. You are obviously a person who fancies himself as someone who provides educated reviews to the public. I am just not sure you did that in this case.
 
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Its no big deal , but I say Quack also...Im trying to be a civil as possible here. In fact Im going to leave your last comment in fairness,, but please refrain from posting here in my subforum as I am not interested in promoting your business here, for obvious reasons and would like to be as positive as possible. I wouldnt come into your thread and discredit you so please dont come here.
Thanks and Cheers
Drew

scott, if I was asked to leave a forum, I'm thinking I just might do that, immediately. I can certainly understand that you want to respond, but perhaps it might be better left to private messages?

It appears you've supplied us with a party. A juice party. And the flavor of the day is TEA.
 

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OK Enough with Hollywood tryouts and the film industry and Back to NHaler and my new Darwin. I really truly like this unit a lot so far, granted, it is only 4 hours or so but I have tried every dam Atty, Carto, Tank, just everything on my Darwin and the unit just kicks some ..... I'm really glad I finally decided to pull the trigger and get this unit it's all I thought it would be and the enhanced electronics the Darwin has over other PV's definitely separates it from the others in my truthful opinion.
 
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OK Enough with Hollywood tryouts and the film industry and Back to NHaler and my new Darwin. I really truly like this unit a lot so far, granite it is only 4 hours or so but I have tried every dam Atty, Carto, Tank, just everything on my Darwin and the unit just kicks some ..... I'm really glad I finally decided to pull the trigger and get this unit it's all I thought it would be and the enhanced electronics the Darwin has over other PV's definitely separates it from the others in my truthful opinion.

Well mwa I hate to admit this but some of us nut cases enjoy this unit so much it was hard to pry out of the hand on those first few days and OK yes I actually slept with mine. Now if I could just get the damn thing to move a little more than my wife I might really have something :)
 

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And none of these objections would ever have been brought up by anyone on this thread if Scott gave the Darwin a positive review...

Personally, I don't agree with Scott's review, and thought it was biased, not because he wasn't PAID to do it, or because he didn't get a unit free, but because he's a Provari fanboi. That's just my opinion, and if it's true then this is the first review I've ever seen from him that I'd consider to be biased at all. Scott, along with GG, is one of the most trustworthy, knowledgeable, and prolific reviewers we've got as a community.

So go ahead and jump on me for taking his side, but y'all better think long and hard before you start pointing fingers and accusing our reviewers of Payola scams. There are plenty of people that'd love to step up and get free stuff to do reviews, and most of them aren't nearly as honest as our friend across the pond with the stereotypical British dental work.
 

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Time to change that sig line. (I love them all?)


SH-Ski, cinnamon on the D'win with a Belgian beer? What is Finnish beer? Anything similar taste wise?

Neb, our hero. What a thoughtful and insightful post. Thank you for saying what most were thinking, and saying it so eloquently! (Amused me that you picked up on the downward dog comment. You really DO read every post! Drew, get this man a T-shirt [and one for me while you're there, LOL.])
 

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LOL...I wanted to repond to your other post but got sidetracked!!! Glad your loving it...I honestly shared Ski's opine, that I cant believe you waited this long???? I figured you fell out of bed again and bumped head while practicing your normal "Extracurricular activities" and just didnt have time to order one!!!
I guess Im NEVER gonna live down that grass skirt ordeal...You know what they say? " Wear one skirt and ...." Enjoy that device my freind...
Drew


OK Enough with Hollywood tryouts and the film industry and Back to NHaler and my new Darwin. I really truly like this unit a lot so far, granite it is only 4 hours or so but I have tried every dam Atty, Carto, Tank, just everything on my Darwin and the unit just kicks some ..... I'm really glad I finally decided to pull the trigger and get this unit it's all I thought it would be and the enhanced electronics the Darwin has over other PV's definitely separates it from the others in my truthful opinion.
 
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