The Darwin From Evolv!!!

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Rob0506

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Hi everyone,

I recently purchased a Darwin and I absolutely love it. I do have an issue though I hope to get some answers on. I put a 2.0 ohm carto on and it was working beautifully, I took the carto off and put an atty back on and the error started flashing and it wouldnt work, shows the battery was dead. I took the atty off pressed the button and everything appears good, so I thought maybe the atty was defective so I tried another and another and another and it kept throwing up the error and wouldnt work. I tried all the attys on my ego and each one worked. So I am baffled now and think maybe I need to reset the battery so I put it on to charge with it off for a few hours, came back to it and samething. I left it alone on charge again and samething. nothing works. Has this happened to anyone else? is there a way I can fix this that Iam not aware of? Like I said with no atty on the battery indicator shows its fully charged, all the numbers are perfect, as soon as I put an atty on the error starts flashing, battery showing dead.

Thanks everyone.

Does your Darwin have the silver 510-510 adapter? I would try removing it. If that doesn't help you'll need probably need to email Evolv. They are usually very quick to respond.
 

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Hi everyone,

I recently purchased a Darwin and I absolutely love it. I do have an issue though I hope to get some answers on. I put a 2.0 ohm carto on and it was working beautifully, I took the carto off and put an atty back on and the error started flashing and it wouldnt work, shows the battery was dead. I took the atty off pressed the button and everything appears good, so I thought maybe the atty was defective so I tried another and another and another and it kept throwing up the error and wouldnt work. I tried all the attys on my ego and each one worked. So I am baffled now and think maybe I need to reset the battery so I put it on to charge with it off for a few hours, came back to it and samething. I left it alone on charge again and samething. nothing works. Has this happened to anyone else? is there a way I can fix this that Iam not aware of? Like I said with no atty on the battery indicator shows its fully charged, all the numbers are perfect, as soon as I put an atty on the error starts flashing, battery showing dead.

Thanks everyone.
Are you sure you are getting a dead battery symbol? Or could you be getting a short circuit symbol? I am not sure what they look like as I have not seen either in quite some time. I think the short circuit symbol looks sort of like a no-smoking symbol. As Rob posted, you may have a shorted adapter (adapters short out a lot) or you might be threading your attys in too far - they should only be threaded in finger-tip-turned tight (just barely until it stops turning - any tighter and could easily be read as a short). check these issues and if you still have issues, then use the "contact us" link on the Evolv site and they will take good care of you.
 

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Most likely, both. I twisted up a paperclip to short mine just to take a snapshot of it for illustration, and noticed that when it's shorted, the battery indicator will go to "empty". I hadn't tried to fire it; just shorted. After I removed the paperclip, it did take 2 or 3 seconds to return to a normal battery indication.

Oh, and the snapshot? I'd forgot that the error indication is animated. Getting the timing right wasn't going to happen. Trying to hold my iPhone while pressing the button on the Darwin without knocking the paperclip loose while the icon was not in-between frames didn't seem to be the best way to spend the afternoon...
 

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Most likely, both. I twisted up a paperclip to short mine just to take a snapshot of it for illustration, and noticed that when it's shorted, the battery indicator will go to "empty". I hadn't tried to fire it; just shorted. After I removed the paperclip, it did take 2 or 3 seconds to return to a normal battery indication.

Oh, and the snapshot? I'd forgot that the error indication is animated. Getting the timing right wasn't going to happen. Trying to hold my iPhone while pressing the button on the Darwin without knocking the paperclip loose while the icon was not in-between frames didn't seem to be the best way to spend the afternoon...

The short circuit protection is designed to prevent the device from firing if it senses a short circuit. it is quit possible this may result in the batt meter showing empty for the few seconds the device is in this mode preventing activation (to protect itself).

As for the photo attempt - people should know that if they do get the device showing short (as all indications from this discussion), continuing to attempt to fire/activate the device will eventually trip the secondary level hardware short circuit protection circuit. If this happens, the device has to be sent back to Evolv for manual reset/repair.

So, if ANYONE - EVER - gets no activation and short circuit icon displayed -->> do NOT continue to attempt to activate/fire the device. Try loosening and gently re-snugging the atty, try changing adapter (once an adapter shorts it will likely never work correctly again - it might on other devices with no short circuit protection but the PCB circuitry short circuit protection is there for a reason -> to protect the rest of the components from damage due to a short). If these efforts do not fix the problem, try different attys and cartos BUT DO NOT CONTINUE TO TRY TO ACTIVATE ONCE THE SHORT CIRCUIT PROTECTION IS TRIPPED (as described in this discussion today). If none of this solves the issue, then use the "contact us" link on the evolv web site and they will guide you further thru either other potential solutions or mail in for warranty repair.
 

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hrmmm, i just thought of something for drew or brandon, ive never seen these screens, maybe on one of the sites we should get some pictures posted of the different screens for a short or if battery is dead, normal operation, things like that or anyone else that might happen to have a picture of those things
 

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The short circuit protection is designed to prevent the device from firing if it senses a short circuit. it is quit possible this may result in the batt meter showing empty for the few seconds the device is in this mode preventing activation (to protect itself).

As for the photo attempt - people should know that if they do get the device showing short (as all indications from this discussion), continuing to attempt to fire/activate the device will eventually trip the secondary level hardware short circuit protection circuit. If this happens, the device has to be sent back to Evolv for manual reset/repair.

So, if ANYONE - EVER - gets no activation and short circuit icon displayed -->> do NOT continue to attempt to activate/fire the device. Try loosening and gently re-snugging the atty, try changing adapter (once an adapter shorts it will likely never work correctly again - it might on other devices with no short circuit protection but the PCB circuitry short circuit protection is there for a reason -> to protect the rest of the components from damage due to a short). If these efforts do not fix the problem, try different attys and cartos BUT DO NOT CONTINUE TO TRY TO ACTIVATE ONCE THE SHORT CIRCUIT PROTECTION IS TRIPPED (as described in this discussion today). If none of this solves the issue, then use the "contact us" link on the evolv web site and they will guide you further thru either other potential solutions or mail in for warranty repair.


Funny thing.. A random Mythbusters episode came on the TeeVee as I was reading this. One of their catchphrases is "Please! Don't try this at home!" - that was what I heard as I got to the bold, italic, capped bit toward the end. I think I can take a hint... :)

I was going to do a proper shoot of the icon/behaviour with something more substantial than an iPhone, but not any more. I was unaware of the hardware-enforced shutdown. Thanks Nebs! You just saved me a bunch of heartache..
 

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Hi everyone,

I recently purchased a Darwin and I absolutely love it. I do have an issue though I hope to get some answers on. I put a 2.0 ohm carto on and it was working beautifully, I took the carto off and put an atty back on and the error started flashing and it wouldnt work, shows the battery was dead. I took the atty off pressed the button and everything appears good, so I thought maybe the atty was defective so I tried another and another and another and it kept throwing up the error and wouldnt work. I tried all the attys on my ego and each one worked. So I am baffled now and think maybe I need to reset the battery so I put it on to charge with it off for a few hours, came back to it and samething. I left it alone on charge again and samething. nothing works. Has this happened to anyone else? is there a way I can fix this that Iam not aware of? Like I said with no atty on the battery indicator shows its fully charged, all the numbers are perfect, as soon as I put an atty on the error starts flashing, battery showing dead.



Thanks everyone.

Just a thought, if you where using these Atty's on a Ego or a different Mod the Atty's bottom center pin could be pushed in to far, crating a short on your Darwin, try to pry the center pin out just a smidgen if this is the case and retrying one of them. If this was it I also suggest new Atty's
 

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I know the 510-510 adapters are not nearly as robust as Darwin itself. A cheapie $5 voltmeter can check a questionable one for continuity. It's a much cheaper tester than a Darwin!

I love to hate Harbor Freight. As a former farm guy (turned IT) I know the value of quality tools, and pretty much everything at Harbor Freight is low quality. But it's so cheap! It's kind of like 'Pier One' for guys.

EDIT: I noted here some time ago (dozens of pages ago?) that I wore the threads out in my first 510-510 adapter. It took about 5 months, this was before Darwin came with one. I threw away a couple of new cartos because they wouldn't fire. "Dang, another bad one? Cheap imported aluminum threads". I soon noticed more wobble than they should have. I replaced the 510-510, and everything is snug again.
 
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this happens when there is short ckt.(inside)
1st pic with adapter removed.
 
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OK I have finished the whole thread, and have a few questions. Does the Darwin work with genisis atty specificly the Line 1.8 to 2.2 ohm. I saw emonty had one on a Darwin. How much better is the Darwin than a VV

Just vaping my line on my Darwin right now. As with the gtank it runs like a dream. I usually setup between 2.2 -2.4omhs. 6.6w gives nice tasting, plumes of throat hitting vapor.
But the bloody arm doesn't shut without extenders etc.
Definitely my main all day pv now. People always look at me strange and ask questions. I usually call it a 21st Century Pipe and say, 'yeah it may look ridiculous, but I really don't give a S#it cause I am not smoking anymore! And that is what it is all really about!'.
G-tank on Darwin has been the easiest, consistent, reliable, low maintenance set up I have used in my 3 years of vaping. Not made any orders for cartomizers since. Still have a bunch unused that I bought as emergency backups should the G-tank fail? Setup the coil and mesh a couple of months ago at 2.2ohms. Occasionally rinse under hot water and it's still perfect on the Darwin.
The line has been performing pretty well, but I am not into the connection method. Wrapping on silver wires take me back to the genesis mini issues I had.
Day two and I'm already getting shorts and the kanthal is slipping off as I adjust the coils.
Nice thing about the Darwin, it gives you a decent resistance reading on the fly and at all times. Kinda essential with genisis attys.
 

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Thank you for the reply. Does the Line fold up on the Darwin? Off cigs for 14 months built my first genisis about a year ago. The Line gets gunked up every 2 weeks so I just pull the settup burn the mesh and replace the kanthal. Don't care for the silver wire, but it works good. I prefer 17ga ss needle connectors cross drilled with .040 hole run the kanthal through the hole and stick a pin down the needle makes a good contact. Ran a puck for power till I saw the ork t vv setup and that has been my go to ever since. Got a Provari reciently Just for Sunday go to meeting it's ok but really touchy with a genisis. The Darwin looks like it might fit me better. How often does the Darwin come up for sale? D. Rat
 

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Ni hao from Suzhou fellow Darwinians. As usual no problems blowing through multiple airports with a few Darwins and two eGo batts. As promised our good buddy Darwin just hanging out at the airport in Beijing. Yes I was pulling big clouds but blowing them inconspicuously towards the floor in order to not call attention to mysyelf. Most places in China are now moving towards "smoking" bans and the old terminal at Beijing airport is non smoking.

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Happy vapes all and welcome to the new clan members that have chimed in!!!
 
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