The E-Cigarette at work, hazardous.

[Kroll]

How nice of them to "Allow" you to vape which is perfectly legal despite their objections and to "Allow" you to do so "As long as" you meet their prerequisites

Well, I look at it like this: I wouldn't like to put up with one of them with bad gas so they have a point on the smell point of view- I think it's pretty much everyone's main gripe in the office (smelly handcreams, food, health drinks that seem to be made out of cow dung and grass etc...).

Also, I've made them put up with the stench of smoke hanging around me for some time (I hate the smell of used tobacco- smoke is fine, but not the "afters") so they're in a win win all round!

Tis better to be polite and bend the truth a little than incur wrath and a straight office ban. I work in HR so perhaps I can set an example to the rest of the smoking crowd!

 

[Grumpysanta]

I've been using my MINI e-cig ever since I got it, haven't had an analog cig since. I haven't made any special point about using it, generally it's in my hand already when I join the other analog smokers and some of them haven't really noticed that I was using anything different.


An interesting conversation occurred today with one of my friends, who doesn't smoke. It started when he commented as I walked past him 'A breath of fresh air'. As is usual amongst friends taking the pee of each other, but he later said that although the comment was in jest there was a reason behind it. We often hear about passive smoking but we don't hear about carrying the 'odour' with us. What he said was, although I always smoked outside, he could always smell the odour of smoking on me when I came back in, but he could not smell any odour on me after I used the e-cig


As I say, my friend does not smoke, but he likes the e-cig because of the lack of smell.


A positive result without even trying.

 

[Somoney]

Thats really sad, tell your brother, people don't have to agree in order to contribute in this forum. LoL, I dont agree with half the people here . What if the e-liquid being smoked was part of this methanol scare recently uncovered? Would it then be plausible that the unseen vapor could cause illness?

If this forum is just to herald the goods of e-smoking and none of the bads, I wouldn't be a member! Take your Lumps and POST!

For the record, the person who started this thread way back is not a troll. He was actually pretty concerned. I would know because he's actually my brother and he stopped using the forum after everyone shot him down here.

 

[PuffnStuff]

Enjoying a few puffs at my desk now while writing this. Don't think I'll make it a habit but I had to just once.

Granted the owners son wants to buy himself an ecig as well and he even said "with these we could smoke at our desk" so I wasn't really chancing much confrontation.

 

[Dale]

Very new here (second post), but just wanted to report my "findings" thus far.

Got an Njoy Npro (before I discovered this forum or I'd've bought something with better performance and cheaper carts) and have thus far:

- smoked in the car with no objection from my wife.
- smoked at work all through my shift. I work alone (raido engineer) but my relief reported no residual odor.
- was at the local bar the other night when the cocktail waitress came over to brag that she was off cigarettes and n the gum. I said "I've got that beat" and pulled out my e-cig... and was soon puffing away in the bar and explaning the concept to everyone around me... they were fascinated!
- smoked in a restaurant, albeit serrupticiously (fisted the cig to hide the shape and LED and held the vapor until there was no visible exhale).

So far, it sems the odor is no problem for anyone and if I explain what I am doing most people are more interested than annoyed.

 

[TropicalBob]

E-smokers need to address every concern about our practice and I'm really bothered now that a legitimate poster of a legitimate concern felt it necessary to leave the forum because of the reception his post received. That's just .. wrong.

We do exhale particulates. They do contain an odor. That's not opinion, people. Yesterday, taking my twin grandgirls home, I began e-puffing from the driver's seat. The girls cannot see what I'm doing. They are playing handheld videogames, anyhow. In unison, "What's the cotton candy smell?" I was using Janty RY4, which has a vanilla-caramel flavor: cotton candy.

My wife explained that grandpa was using his e-cigarette and she smelled it too but just never said anything.

Now .. get to the root of why some people reported becoming ill in the presence of exhaled vapor from e-smoking. You can bet that others not wearing rose-colored e-glasses will demand an answer. What a shame we drove someone off by being Pollyanish about e-smoking ....

 

[Rorschach]

Thanks TBob.

Yes we do exhale an odor with e-smoking. I uh...sometimes smoke at my desk but I hold it in my lungs and don't exhale. But, the other day my boss's boss was walking by my desk and was wondering out loud what that strange smell was.

Oof. time to stop e-smoking at my desk!

 

[Monroe]

I e-smoke at work now, in the back office. No one minds because every single employee smokes. The only person who said anything negative was our maintenance guy, but mainly because he was butthurt that he couldn't smoke inside, lol.

Alot of them are interested in buying e-cigs now, because I got the OK from the owner of the company to use them inside, as long as customers don't see them

They're just waiting to see how well mine does, and then at least 6 plan to order thier own

 

[cass]

We do exhale particulates. They do contain an odor. That's not opinion, people. quote]

This is true. As I mentioned in another post, my son could definitely smell sweetness when I was vaping for too long in his room. It was actually too sweet for him. I could tell. I could also tell that he didn't want to say anything because he's so grateful I'm not smoking. I simply made a mental note to stick with reg or marlboro flavor in his room because he didn't mention the scent for the entire week before.
I guess because it's a pleasant scent instead of cigs, we want to justify it. We want to justify it because we want this too work and are happy it does.
I'm going to try my flaves tomorrow at work and see what comes of it. But to be honest, I won't tolerate too many complaints because everyone in the office smokes. I will eliminate my apple smell if they eliminate their stale tobacco smell.
I would not have the same attitude with non smokers, although I do agree that many have unpleasant scents around them as well (even if they're not smoking/vaping related).

 

[tonyph]

i agree with tropical bob. e-smoking needs to be done politely. Most places that are covered by the smoking ban, resturants, pubs etc are private pemises. I have always supported that people should be able to say what behaviour is allowable on there own property and always respected other peoples comfort when smoking near them. My objection to the no smoking laws and the anti smoking fanatics is that they dont respect these things.
If there is any chance that e-cigs are causing problems better to be thorough in checking it out. We all have had the problem of been pursued by the anti-smoking fantatic, lets not produce anti e-smoking fanatics.
So far my experiance is positive. My daughter who instantly reacts to me smoking in the next room, or next to her on an open field didnt notice me puffing on an e-cig in the same room when she visited yesterday.

 

[Pleased2BHere]

Well I promised to report back if my wife was truly affected by the vapors in an enclosed area and she does indeed seem to be! Odd because she smokes and none of my non-smoker friends seem to notice it. I am still not certain she is just not jealous because she can't smoke her Marlboros inside but she does seem affected.
So the moral of the story as so many of us have commented is be considerate and react with accomodation to anyone who has an issue with it!

 

[Kimmiegrif]

Pleased, I have some smoker friends that are totally intimidated by my ecig use. It is a threat to their addiction. It could be some kind of reaction but I would say that she is threatened by you quitting that nasty burning tabacco habit...that is something you shared together...just make sure she knows you don't care if she continues and that you will vap when she smokes...that can still be a shared experience... until you start hate the nasty smell. just kiddin...no I am not.

 

[Noddster]

I would just like to tell you of my public e smoking experience, on saturday we went by coach from nottingham to citi europe in calais for a bit of xmas shopping.
When we got on the coach at nottingham i asked the driver for permission to use my " high tech inhalator" which after a very biased explanation of its function and virtues he agreed to allow me and my wife to do so, provided that there where no complaints about us from the other passengers.
after about 45mins into the journey i decided to test it out and it most certainly got a lot of attention from the other passengers on the bus with most of my imediate neighbours wondering how the hell i was managing to smoke on the bus without any smell or clouds of smoke hanging around on the bus annoying everybody, as you can imagine i had a great time spreading the e smoking gospel to one and all, and had many converts wanting to know how to get hold of them.
I reckon that i could have sold at least 10 starter kits before we had even reached dover had i had them to sell.
But the most important thing for both me and my wife was the fact that for the first time in many years we actually enjoyed a long distance coach journey without being desperate to get off the bus for the ... breaks that tend to be so few and far between. absolute heaven!!

 

[Ads1969]

My experience of vaping at work.

Initially my manager was happy to let me vape at my desk, (I sit right next to him!) which lasted an hour or so untill he got an email from one of the other managers of one of the newspaper reports stating that e-cigarettes are banned in Australia. (this particular article didn't mention banned from sale, just "banned in Australia". So my manager told me to stop using it till they got more information on them. So I sent him stuff from QLD Health that said and other Government websites that re-iterated that although e-cigs banned from sale, there were no current laws banning their use in Australia.

Anyway, he emailed our OH&S department who came back with that although they can see that its legal and harmless, because of the "percieved" notion that I am smoking, they have said I can not use it at work, and have to use it outside any company buildings like the rest of the regular smokers.

I'm understandably pretty annoyed, and have sent an email to our union to see if they can appeal their stupid decision.

What are other people doing with places and companies who take the position that although they know its legal and not a health risk etc, then say stop using it in non-smoking areas, because of this notion that other regular smokers may "percieve" that its ok and light up? I can see this being quite a common issue, and want to know what others are doing?

 

[surbitonPete]

My sister is an over the top anti-smoker and after spending a day out in the open air with me smoking tobacco and moaning at me about it all the time... she lost her voice and blamed it on my smoking....after seeing a doctor he did loads of tests and eventually told her there was absolutely no medical reason for her lost voice and it was all in her mind......I am sure people are going to be blaming a person vaping for causing them to be ill.

 

[strayling]

The word of the day is psychosomatic. The causes may be imaginary but the symptoms are, sadly, real.

 

[jburns]

My sister is an over the top anti-smoker and after spending a day out in the open air with me smoking tobacco and moaning at me about it all the time... she lost her voice and blamed it on my smoking....after seeing a doctor he did loads of tests and eventually told her there was absolutely no medical reason for her lost voice and it was all in her mind......I am sure people are going to be blaming a person vaping for causing them to be ill.

Eight straight hours of moaning might have had something to do with losing her voice.

 

[Angela]

Propylene Glycol is used, as we all know, in many fog/smoke machines. I don't think I know anyone who hasn't come in contact with one of these things at a gig/play/show or whatever and no-one complains about those.

That statement did make me giggle. Amongst other things, I own and run a multi-op mobile disco company. If you think the anti-smoking brigade complain about cigarettes, you ought to hear them in the presence of a smoke machine! LOL.

In fact, since the smoking ban, most venues won't allow the use of foggers in the venue.... no matter how much you try and explain that it isn't 'smoke' and that the legislation doesn't apply to them.

 

[MrsJaaxx]

Some of the juice flavors have a strong smell, IMO. I tend to use more fruity and lighter flavors that don't seem to have much, if any, smell. But Jaaxx likes the ones that smell kind of like pipe tobacco-- they smell very strongly and I can smell his vapor from across the room, or when I walk into the room he is in. I really like the smell. I don't consider it dangerous, though, because it is the flavoring that I am smelling, not PG or nicotine. But if I were vaping at work, I wouldn't want to choose a flavor that produces a scent simply because there are people there that are required to be there in the room with me who might not find that particular smell to be one they enjoy. I know I want to strangle people who come into my place of business after bathing in perfume or cologne! Sometimes it is so strong that the office will smell that way ALL DAY, long after the offending client has gone!

 

[so2late4me]

We could kill ourselves and they didn't care. But if we so much as irritated one of them .. ban all smoking! This is so true, but that is in our favor. Every time you are seen smoking an ecig, be sure to point out to the people around u that You are protecting them, by using this. See, now can smoke without exposing you to danger. "If it would be wrong for me to make laws forcing you to smoke. how can you make laws forcing me to quit." I think you will find that most people don't care that we smoke they just don't want to die from something they did not choose to do. If we show them we are just as concerned about their health as they are. that we are trying to find a way for everyone to be able to make their own choices without infringing on anyone else's right to do the same. I think we will find alot of support from the non smoking community