The E-Pipe Juice Machine

[clyde2801]

BTW, the 801 has a seperate aluminum piece on the bottom that covers up a couple of air indents on the bottom brass screw piece thingy. I mailed them today, you'll see what I'm talking about.

You'll have plenty of semi-zombies for your mad experiments, petercro. Maybe you can bring a few back to life as drippers for the new box with that high powered usb doo-hickey you've got.

 

[highping]

Comparing the 510 center hole to to the 4081, it's really not that small. Maybe the same size as (or even a tad bigger than) the 4081 hole. The 'tiny' description was kind of based on looking at it beside an 801 atty.
The 510 is definitely the best 3.7V hitter (2.5 ohm atty ), so if you could make that work, it would be gold.
clyde, did you send peter any 510's with your care package?

BTW: sorry for my 'absence', but last I had heard from you was that you were not going to be getting back to this for a couple weeks, so I was giving it some time before I checked back.

 

[clyde2801]

I sent him a bunch of dead soldiers today, about a dozen. I suspect one or two still have a breath of life left in them.

 

[highping]

I sent him a bunch of dead soldiers, about a dozen. I suspect one or two still have a breath of life left in them.

Ok, I looked back in the thread and saw that 510's were in the list of stuff you were sending him.

'Dead' soldiers you say? In my experience dead=cold. If they heat up at all, they are still good. I think a lot of ppl give up on attys way too fast.

Peter: when you get the attys, do this...
- Blow out any excess juice.
- rinse with hot water and blow out thouroughly. (no need to dry over night, or anything. They have a built in dryer )
- connect to battery...preferably something higher voltage than stock. I use my variable voltage power supply that's connected to a PS passthrough and set it to about 5.2V. (for a 510, 6.5ish for an 801)
- push button until you see orange hot...carefully...not super bright (white hot).
- let off button and blow down the barrel (from a distance, not with your mouth actually on it), this kind of flash cools it and also gets some of the moisture out.
- repeat 5-10 times
- you will see that gradually (once you've got it dry) the glow will occur much quicker. once you have it to this point, press and release the button at a rate that just holds the orange glow (kind of a manual 'pulse width modulate'). Keep this glow going for 20-30 seconds, being very carefull to maintain the glow at low orange (not bright red/white) or you'll pop it.
- once you have done that, rinse with water again and repeat all the above steps one more time.

At this point you will have an atty that performs like (or better than) brand new. I have used this technique with 510, 801, 901, 401, and 4081 attys and it always works for me. You do have to use some caution, as you can pop an atty pretty easily until you have the method down. I haven't popped one in quite some time though.
Also, no need to remove the wick, as you are baking all the gunk out when you do this. This is the reason for the second rinse in the middle of the process. You basically turn the gunk to ash with the sustained orange glow, then rinse the ash out.

 

[MastiffMike]

Man, this thread is full of win!!!
It's full of great info! Keep it coming everyone!

About my liq. in tube issue. I was actually going to use a spray bottle rather than a squeeze bottle b/c there'd be much more control. IMHO (and with NO first hand experience), squeeze bottles don't allow much control over quantity delivered. How hard you press, how fast you press/release, how full the bottle is, etc. can impact (though maybe not enough to worry about?) quantity. With a spray bottle I can control how much is delivered each spray. However, it sounds like that the one thing the spray doesn't do, sucking back excess, is critical.

The other beauty of the spray idea was that I can build my own bottle very easily and thus have full design control where's I'll have to purchase a premade squeeze bottle.

Keep the good stuff coming everybody!

 

[petercro]

MastiffMike
I here what you are saying.
The spray bottle must have some form of air valve, When you release the pump, air
is sucked in from another place.
I don't know if I am right but is sounds about right to me.
The answer maybe as simple as blocking that other air inlet.
Which might make the pump suck on release.
A bit of research is necessary.
On the other hand MoonMan may be the best person to ask.

 

[Darchand]

Just posting to let you know I am keeping up with this thread. There is a lot of great info here and it looks like you are doing really well so far. Just curious though if you still have plans on making a pipe that dispense juice. For now my second prototype is on the back burner but thanks to the info you have provided I have a lot of great new ideas.

 

[petercro]

Darchand
Oh yes, That is why I asked if you were casting the prototype.
Everything I'm learning here in building the MINI is the for-runner to my
Liquid Fed E-Pipe.

Thanks for following............

 

[MastiffMike]

This is OT but this thread has a lot of helpful, knowledable people so I thought I'd ask here.....

I like working with epoxy putty (the different setup times is nice too) but am wondering, what WON'T it stick to? For instance, if I want to wrap it around a pipe but then be able to remove the pipe (preferably after it's setup, not halfway during the curing process) how can I do it? I thought of cling wrap but I think it'll actual hold onto the pipe to much. Would tin foil work? How about wax paper? Is there some sort of coating I could put on to the pipe to prevent the epoxy from sticking (though some sort of paper would be easier for the application I have in mind).

Thanks for any/all input!

 

[kai kane]

software for my ubuntu laptop.

hey - my son configured ubuntu on one of my old laptops too! very cool OS i hope to migrate to very soon

 

[kai kane]

Is there some sort of coating I could put on to the pipe to prevent the epoxy from sticking ...
Thanks for any/all input!

Ejuice!

 

[petercro]

MastiffMike
Grease, oil or silicone.
Duck tape, brown parcel tape.
Wax paper with a little extra wax.
Cling wrap, silver foil with a grease coating.
Epoxy likes to adhere to a clean grease free surface.
I would suggest though. Grease the pipe and wrap with a wax paper or cling wrap.
Should work a treat.....

 

[MastiffMike]

TY

I'll probably be doing it tonight or tomorrow.

 

[WhatAClumsyGirl]

I just love watching technically smart people work .

Didnt mean to .... in...just wanted to compliment all of you and say that I enjoy all the postings.

Hope you don't mind if I sneak in and read the posts occasionally...I shall be very very quiet and try not to trip over anything important

 

[MastiffMike]

Me too Clumsy, me too!

 

[Silverthorn181]

WhatAClumsyGirl stumble around all you can.

If you do some research you will find that all the best discoveries and nearly all the supper powers are a result of the clumsy assistant knocking the vial of Sensorevamping Atomiclyenhanced Nicojuice into the vat of Extrathroathit Fogsalot. The resulting explosion causes a mutation of the sub-atomic particles and........ Well you know the story!!

 

[traderdan]

Petercro
I've made the mod like moonman with a 901 atty but instead of the bottle which I didn't like because they never last very long (I think because they are made of vinyl and not silicone) they crack therefore linking juice out the side. I use a primer bulb like the kind found on small gasoline engines and I put a tube threw the atty power line to add air flow also. Adding juice threw the top is good if you know how to maintain the proper level. I flood mine when I'm not paying proper attention to it . The 901 is running at 6.5 volts and uses a regular 3.7 volt atty. I love the vape I get from this unit as it is not harsh like most high volts are and it makes tons of vapor. If you would like a pic I will post one .

 

[traderdan]

I didn't post what I wanted to say LOL. I don't think The 901 will work feeding it from the bottom because it doesn't touch the bottom air hole with the atty at all .But has a space between the power connection and the atty and only has three small holes in the atty . Two for wires and one slotted one for air. It would flood it and almost certainly never work very well at all .

 

[MastiffMike]

I didn't post what I wanted to say LOL. I don't think The 901 will work feeding it from the bottom because it doesn't touch the bottom air hole with the atty at all .But has a space between the power connection and the atty and only has three small holes in the atty . Two for wires and one slotted one for air. It would flood it and almost certainly never work very well at all .

OK, forgive my ignorance but you lost me there. I have some pipe that I just tried and it fits throught the hole in a batt connection perfectly and then it goes up into the atty connection about 3/16" before it hits something and stops. What is that something? And will it prevent feeding liquid through this way?

Thanks for the help!

 

[highping]

I believe that 'something' is the 'nickel foam'. It's the steel wool looking stuff that you can see on the bridge. It also runs around the ceramic cup and under it. Could also be the ceramic cup itself. I haven't torn apart a 901 (yet) so I don't know if it is one of the attys that doesn't have a hole in the bottom of the cup or not. (some don't have a hole in the bottom, only the sides.

Edit: Regardless, you don't want you tube to go past the bottom of the cup because you will hit the heating coil. If you get it to the nickel foam, it is far enough. All you need to do is get the foam wet, and it will hold a few hits worth of juice. That depends on the atty model. The 901 may only hold 3-4 drops(like the 510), but the gynormous 801 will hold up to 15 drops just in the nickel foam. Which is one of the reasons I started out with it when trying to design a 'from the bottom' juice delivery system. (that and it has a big hole)