The end of microcoils?
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Yeah... I have seen a few "Internet Forum" Credentials.
I never Claimed to be a Metallurgist. Or have any Degrees in Material Science.
No intent to slam Phil on my part - I think he had made a very rational decision, with the evidence at hand.I am sure glad to see some folks challenge some of these folks that claim to be experts. But I'll defend Busardo in this case of torching wire because he qualified his comments with "until there is more evidence". I have said it before and will say it again I don't trust a Cardiologist that claim to be biologist,chemist and a metallurgist.
News at 11!! Phil Busardo comes to the exact same conclusion that the majority familiar with the topic have already come to.
Oh but it sounded really appropriate at the time [emoji14]
Besides, as far as I know, Dr. Carvalho has you in high regard. That has to mean something, at least for me
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Oh but it sounded really appropriate at the time [emoji14]
Besides, as far as I know, Dr. Carvalho has you in high regard. That has to mean something, at least for me
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Tony
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Based on the chronology of this thread, and Dr. Ruckles level headed and well thought posts, I don't think his authority or knowledge on the subject was EVER in question. I've learned a great deal about why not to get excited yet one way or another. I think we have all gained an excellent perspective from him AND from those that DO have some concerns, that we likely have little to nothing to fear as long as we don't get completely ridiculous about the temperatures and frequency of torching our coils.
After extensive conversations with two specialist in the field, I still torch 'blue' all my Ti wire.
The only difference? I'm aware that it's probably not a good idea to torch it blindly, disregarding good sense.
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Tony
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Yep same here I'm not dry burning and watch it litterally light the room anymore.
I'm doing small 1 second fast pulses and once I finish with the shorts I vape.
I'm always going to dry burn. People here convinced me more than anyone else.
What is your point? Early in this thread there was concern that influential YouTube vapers would blindly follow Dr. F's advice on dry burning coils. And then misinform their followers. So far it appears not to have happened, as best I can see. Just pointing out one example.
Hey 'thing', you could have posted the Portuguese version and I would have translate it.
I think the main did get pass through nevertheless
Regards from the algarve
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Tony
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Thank you, i could've translate it also but, didn't think it was really necessary.
Regards from Setúbal
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Sorry, that part of the google translate got confused.
What i was saying there is:
Also a juice with/or a lot of Ry4, or VG, and i'll add now, caramel, or cotton candy(ethyl maltol), in a tank like the kf4, "kills" me a coil in 2 days. About 8ml of juice, in my first days vaping, it would give around 3 refills in a kr808 horizontal coil. Comparing to some fruity juices(wich i don't really like, can't stand to vape food flavours more than 5 minutes) or a halo prime 15, that i can vape way more than 30ml, and still have both the coil and the wick clear and clean.
I think "coal" imply organic base yes, or at least, not "coal" in the coal sense of it, although it lights up in flames if you dry burn it. Gunk, Coal, black stuff, whatever you want to call it.
What i said in that badly translated text was the same i saw in the latest video from vapourtrails. We can't see the "coal" when cleaning leaving black powder and say it's chromium hexavalent or gun powder. We can't say that the metal particles come from the coil, the juice, the badly stored PG, the tanks, whatever. Without studies, i'll keep cleaning and dry burnin with a minimum amount of good sense of course. I see no reasons for alarming, or panic (wich in portuguese is panico) with my home made verb, panicar, in prenglishese, panicate.
And what i see is, ry4, most of them contain caramel, caramel flavour, ethyl maltol.. forms a lot of that gunk or "coal" in the coil. Other flavours forms almost no "coal" in the coil. Lucky me i only like tobacco flavour juices....
Here's the video i mention earlier.
Kind regards guys and don't forget, every opinion is allways good, but keep calm and don't panicate, inovate.
EEEK--- Brits and Yanks---RUN. Maltese and Portuguese are proliferating like geese on the board.Calm down. No need to run. We are no way as blood thirsty as 500 years ago. We are nice and polite now
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Tony
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I YouTube, albeit far from big time. My channel is not driven by the need to put stuff over because I feel obligated, rather, I aim to help people get the same rockstar vape that I do.
Funny stuff, I wound, named and published the first "micro coil" here on ECF about 2 years ago. I called it a micro coil because it was small in diameter. This was when tech for coil making involved hand winding around something. For the first micro, I used a picture nail. The wraps were erratic and not in contact, but they looked real close under normal viewing conditions. It vaped much better than the standard 1/8" dia 4 wind coil that was popular back then. Then the YouTube celebs started to make videos about "micro coils" being all about touching wraps. I believe it was Grimm green that made the first "micro coil" video. I got no props and he made anything but a micro coil
That was about 6 months before I started to make my own vids.
As tech evolved, making contact micro coils became easy.
I just had to drop that here as this is the first micro coil ever made public
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It started as a thread in the REOsmods forum then the HUGE thread in the then "Rebuildable Atomizer" forum.
Some YouTube celebs have misled so many, and I'm sure they mislead many more.
Just for fun, I was digging on thousands of your posts trying to find that specific post, of what I understand was the first micro coil
I think I finally found it, is it this one?:
Micro Coil for the RBA on your REO | E-Cigarette Forum
That was it brotherJust for fun, I was digging on thousands of your posts trying to find that specific post, of what I understand was the first micro coil
I think I finally found it, is it this one?:
Micro Coil for the RBA on your REO | E-Cigarette Forum
Now I'm running this
Pretty radical departure from early 2013 - now it's 2.5mm ID twisted 4 strand 30 ga and it's just a coil to me anymore. The micro coil concept got a lil convoluted from the initial tiny coil
We were making contact microcoils a few years before thatJust for fun, I was digging on thousands of your posts trying to find that specific post, of what I understand was the first micro coil
I think I finally found it, is it this one?:
Micro Coil for the RBA on your REO | E-Cigarette Forum
I think I still have a Phoenix 1 with one in it. It's fun to watch things get reinvented. There were also fused contact and fused spaced using Al2O3 wicks.
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