The Final Count Down -- Are You Ready?

[Bronze]

Have you developed a clear plan to keep yourself vaping yet?

Most definitely! I have a clear strategy on how I am doing my DIY. Very organized with multiple paths (including no/low flavor). Next week will be big for me as I sample a half dozen homemade NETs along with a few bakery recipes that will ultimately be used to blend with the NETs. Also have lots of sfts ready. I differ greatly from my neighbor. While I may be one of the pickiest vapers on ECF as it relates to flavor, my neighbor (five years later) is still vaping the first juice he tried and has never taken a single pull of any other flavor. He’s easy pickins’.

 

[phill_nz]

whats the regs about importing from china
and yes i know the popular belief is you cannot trust them
well
i will say you cannot trust them all
i have a good supplier from there
and they have some really nice flavours
i tend to buy 1 ltr containers x 4 at a time
if anyone wants a link to what i use
message or ask
it looks like we are also going the no flavours route here as well // so i ordered another batch

 

[Rossum]

whats the regs about importing from china

Not completely clear. The older FD&C act seem to give the FDA the power to control the import of all kinds of stuff (foods, drug, & cosmetics), even for personal use. Yet the Tobacco Control Act doesn't extend that power to tobacco products. Nonetheless, the FDA seems to believe it can.

I suppose the real question is: How vigorously will they try to enforce it, and how successful will those efforts be?

 

[Uncle]

Oh yeah. One Tuesday, just shy three years ago, my wife woke up and looked at the revised track for Matthew. She then woke me up and said, "We have to go -- today!" I looked at the track and said, "Why, it won't be here until Friday. We would leave tomorrow or even Thursday." Her retort was, "Do you have any idea what the traffic will be like then?"

We left that afternoon and convoyed both cars, filled to the gills with the stuff we most didn't wish to lose, to our cabin 600 miles north of here. The drive was uneventful, taking the normal nine hours.

I looked at Google Maps on Wednesday and Thursday, and the roads (I95 northbound and I26 westbound) were a sea of red.

Those who panic first, panic best.

VERY SMART "WIFE" . . .

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Ya' better make sure to keep her around . . .




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[Uncle]

Smallish freezers from Lowes aren't all that expensive. You can get something like this
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https://www.lowes.com/pd/Idylis-5-cu-ft-Manual-Chest-Freezer-White/1000196491

FYI: One of the neighbors in the apartment complex got one to use for Food, which was against "House Rules" . . . Owner/Management found out, their attorney sent letter to remove within 2 weeks or face eviction . . . Did the same thing to another tenant that had a small apartment sized washing machine . . . So - If Ya' rent better check your Lease & "House Rules" first - or have a really great hiding place . . . Just Sayin' . . .



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[englishmick]

Not completely clear. The older FD&C act seem to give the FDA the power to control the import of all kinds of stuff (foods, drug, & cosmetics), even for personal use. Yet the Tobacco Control Act doesn't extend that power to tobacco products. Nonetheless, the FDA seems to believe it can.

I suppose the real question is: How vigorously will they try to enforce it, and how successful will those efforts be?

Some numbers were posted here recently about how vapers sourced their purchases. The amount of supplies that were bought on-line was surprisingly low, to me anyway. Something like 18% I think. Most were from vape shops and convenience stores.

It's harder buying on-line. You have to choose what to buy out of the thousands of options. In a shop you can see it and pick it up and ask questions. Even a lot of on-line buyers have never bought from China which is another layer of scariness. Maybe not many people will switch from buying at vape shops to ordering from China. Even vapers who buy from China rarely buy juice there, it isn't highly regarded. If a smallish number of vapers are buying from FT that might factor into whether the authorities are willing to put in the hard expensive work of clamping down on imports from China.

 

[Eskie]

FYI: One of the neighbors in the apartment complex got one to use for Food, which was against "House Rules" . . . Owner/Management found out, their attorney sent letter to remove within 2 weeks or face eviction . . . Did the same thing to another tenant that had a small apartment sized washing machine . . . So - If Ya' rent better check your Lease & "House Rules" first - or have a really great hiding place . . . Just Sayin' . . .



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Let me guess. Rent stabilized apartments.

 

[Uncle]

Meanwhile, I am sitting down with my neighbor tomorrow to discuss plans to keep him in vaping. He’s vaped for five years. He’s aware of what’s been in the news lately but doesn’t really know exactly how close he is to losing his ability to vape. That ends tomorrow.

Most definitely! I have a clear strategy on how I am doing my DIY. Very organized with multiple paths (including no/low flavor). Next week will be big for me as I sample a half dozen homemade NETs along with a few bakery recipes that will ultimately be used to blend with the NETs. Also have lots of sfts ready. I differ greatly from my neighbor. While I may be one of the pickiest vapers on ECF as it relates to flavor, my neighbor (five years later) is still vaping the first juice he tried and has never taken a single pull of any other flavor. He’s easy pickins’.

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[Uncle]

Let me guess. Rent stabilized apartments.

YEP - Seniors (62+) & Disabled Only . . .

Besides the "HUD's Tenant Rights & Responsibilities" there is a 12 page document of "House Rules" . . . However, their is also Florida's Landlord Tenant Law . . . Favors Landlords - Not Tenants . . .

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[Eskie]

YEP - Seniors (62+) & Disabled Only . . .

However, their is also Florida's Landlord Tenant Law - Favors Landlords - Not Tenants . . .

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Gotta love NY real estate.

 

[fiddleshe]

FYI: One of the neighbors in the apartment complex got one to use for Food, which was against "House Rules" . . . Owner/Management found out, their attorney sent letter to remove within 2 weeks or face eviction . . . Did the same thing to another tenant that had a small apartment sized washing machine . . . So - If Ya' rent better check your Lease & "House Rules" first - or have a really great hiding place . . . Just Sayin' . . .



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Im assuming all utilities included.

 

[Rossum]

VERY SMART "WIFE" . . .

Ya' better make sure to keep her a round . . . ​

Come November, we'll have been together for 40 years (we met in college).
I was a smoker when we met, however, she has never used tobacco products.

Ever since the war on vaping started, she's been asking me: "Are you sure you have enough stuff to keep vaping for the rest of our days? She knows from my previous quit attempts that I'm insufferable without my nicotine.

So yeah, I think I'll keep her.

 

[Uncle]

Gotta love NY real estate.

Not Really - Tenants are losing out, especially in NYC too . . . All different since I Live in the city, rent control, rent increase, warranty of habitability, etc . . . AND - Let's not talk about rents . . . "My" Last Apartment - 2 BD 3 Floor (very small pullman kitchen 4' x 4') Brownstone in the hear of Greenwich Village 2 blocks off 7th Avenue on Barrow Street - $350.00 a month (and I thought that was too much) . . . I KNOW - I KNOW I was extreamly lucky given what it would be today . . .


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Im assuming all utilities included.

YES & NO . . .



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[Opinionated]

@Rossum I just wanted to say thank you for helping with my couple of questions in this thread. I should have said thank you before but my head is spinning in a million directions right now.

But I do thank you for your kindness. Take care.

 

[RedForeman]

This is excellent advice! Mine is split between four freezers in three different states.

Note that a power outage is not a catastrophe. Unlike meat, nicotine base doesn't freeze solid and won't spoil if it reverts to room temperature for a few days.

Not being in FL and also 200 miles from the ocean, our hurricane risk is nearly zero. Except when the remnants come thru and put trees down thru the power lines.

My smarter half got on a mini prepper kick about 10 yrs ago. Whole house, natural gas fueled power plants weren't really a thing yet, and inverter generators had just come out and cost a small fortune. So we bought a cheap 6kW gas generator. I also installed a transfer switch with an outside receptacle for a 240V patch cord. It makes enough current to power up the whole house, minus the a/c compressor.

It's a bit of a chore to use. Have to roll it out of the garage, get it running, hook it up, etc. I usually wait about a half hour in case an outage is a short one before I get started. I can store enough gas at home to run it non-stop for a week, but usually don't. Here we never have the run on gas stations like in FL since outages are rarely that widespread, so I've never been unable to get my supply in order at the last minute.

Since then I have also acquired a 2kW Honda suitcase generator. Weighs just over 40 lbs and will run all day on a gallon of gas. Harbor Freight has a clone that sells for about $500, about a 1/4 of the Honda cost. IMO ideal for someone that doesn't want to (or can't due to a lease) go thru the expense of installing a transfer switch. That and a couple drop cords to run refrigerators/freezers and maybe a tv and a coffee pot now and then.

Only down side is you need to maintain them so they -will- start when you need them. I treat the gas tanks and any unused storage cans with stabilizer and run the engine till it quits with the fuel shut off to clear the carburetor and never once had a problem starting it.

 

[Eskie]

Not Really - Tenants are losing out, especially in NYC too . . . All different since I Live in the city, rent control, rent increase, warranty of habitability, etc . . . AND - Let's not talk about rents . . . "My" Last Apartment - 2 BD 3 Floor (very small pullman kitchen 4' x 4') Brownstone in the hear of Greenwich Village 2 blocks off 7th Avenue on Barrow Street - $350.00 a month (and I thought that was too much) . . . I KNOW - I KNOW I was extreamly lucky given what it would be today . . .


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YES & NO . . .



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You had a 2 BR on Barrow street for $350 a month?????? I'm sorry you had to give it up but that must have been wonderful for many, many years. And, ah, yeah, it wasn't exactly too much.

Rent laws in NYC are horrendous. Regardless of attempts to improve tenant protections, that fact cannot be changed that real estate is too valuable, and too many people with too much money want to live here.

 

[440BB]

So yeah, I think she'll keep me.

FTFY

 

[Rossum]

FTFY

Hey, during one of my quit attempts prior to vaping, she told me:
"Honey, if you want to stay married, you need to start smoking again."

 

[Myrany]

Let me guess. Rent stabilized apartments.

That or possibly utilities included.

 

[JCinFLA]

nvm