The Final Count Down -- Are You Ready?

[CMD-Ky]

They keep changing the guidelines to sell more drugs.

There is a little rather cynical part of my mind that thinks they may change the guidelines because they don't really know. It's seems a little like butter, eggs and coffee, good today bad tomorrow and back again. I just find a study that suits my needs and then never let it go. If I can't find such a study, I'll wait; studies are like buses, there will be another coming down the road and maybe it will be going my way.

 

[englishmick]

They keep changing the guidelines to sell more drugs.

Why change a winning strategy? Americans take more medications than anyone else in the world and they cost twice as much here. It doesn't make us healthier but it moves a lot of money to its proper place. Now they are changing the rules around nicotine to move us back to more profitable methods of consumption.

 

[Uncle]

OKAY - It really seems ironic that this recent discussion about BP / Life saving Medications / etc is actually happening . . . Maybe the thread title should be changed to - "The Final Count Down - Are You Ready [To Die] ?" . . .

Just Sayin' . . .


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[BigPappa]

Metoprolol... I now have the BP of a teenager, even if it is "fake" I will take it.

 

[Uncle]

Alright already - I got Ya' All Beat . . .

Carvedilol (2x's a day) / Amiodarone (1 a day) / Xarelto (1 a day)

AND - That's only 3 medications of the 20+ different medications I take a day . . .

YEA - I'm Alive . . .

Just Sayin' . . .


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[Rossum]

AND - That's only 3 medications of the 20+ different medications I take a day . . .

I'm not gonna ask how many of them have the purpose of counter-acting the side effects caused by others.

 

[Uncle]

I'm not gonna ask how many of them have the purpose of counter-acting the side effects caused by others.

Well - I'll answer anyway - NONE ! ! ! really . . . The medications I take are all counteracting what "My" insides are doing to "My" Body, especially since becoming a Diabetic, having a Quintuple Bypass, COPD/Asthma, Peripheral Nephropathy, Gerd, etc. . . .

Although I do know many people who do have to take other medications to counter-act the major medications they NEED to take to fight an illness or something attacking their bodies . . .

So "Your" opinion is not lost, it just doesn't fit "Everyone" . . .

Just Sayin' . . .

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[Bronze]

I'm not gonna ask how many of them have the purpose of counter-acting the side effects caused by others.

Years ago I worked for a company that made color concentrates for plastic so I was pretty good at making colors. One thing I learned is if you mix enough colors together it always ends up as olive drab (military green). I suspect the same thing happens with 20 medications. Take any 20 and mix them. You'll end up in the same place.

 

[Rossum]

he medications I take are all counteracting what "My" insides are doing to "My" Body

What's that old saying?

"If I'd know I would live this long, I would have taken better care of myself!"

 

[Bronze]

Well - I'll answer anyway - NONE ! ! ! really . . . The medications I take are all counteracting what "My" insides are doing to "My" Body, especially since becoming a Diabetic, having a Quintuple Bypass, COPD/Asthma, Peripheral Nephropathy, Gerd, etc. . . .

Although I do know many people who do have to take other medications to counter-act the major medications they NEED to take to fight an illness or something attacking their bodies . . .

So "Your" opinion is not lost, it just doesn't fit "Everyone" . . .

Just Sayin' . . .

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I gotta a friend with similar maladies and he's on a cocktail of medications too numerous to count. Instead of those weekly pill organizers, his wife uses small buckets for him. Looks like that bozo buckets game. My buddy is so pickled he cant even get drunk anymore. He doesn't miss it either because he's happier where he's at.

 

[englishmick]

I've been dithering about getting one more liter of nic for months. I kept redoing my calculations. The age where I run out ranges from 82 to 94 depending on several variables. Like my wife retired last year and her consumption went through the roof.

Today I read a post about the legislation making its way through Congress, some of which includes a ban on on-line purchases and huge taxes. Then I heard them talking on the radio about upcoming regs in Indiana. Age limit to 21, fines for underage users, big fines for sellers, taxes, talk about addressing on-line purchases in a follow up bill. Truth is access to nic could end tomorrow. Who knows what will happen in May.

It all got too much and I ordered another liter. Went with my usual NN even though it costs a little more. Now my run out range goes from 85 to 100. I really can't see myself sucking it down at the same rate when I'm 85. Not with 47 years of smoking under my belt.

 

[susieqz]

i'm waiting for easter.
nic rivr usually has 20% off then.
kinda handy because they also have flavors i like.

 

[Rossum]

Now my run out range goes from 85 to 100

I doubt I'll make it to 85, but if I do, I sure don't wanna run out then, because it would give the term "grumpy old man" a whole new meaning.

 

[BigPappa]

I've been dithering about getting one more liter of nic for months. I kept redoing my calculations. The age where I run out ranges from 82 to 94 depending on several variables. Like my wife retired last year and her consumption went through the roof.

Today I read a post about the legislation making its way through Congress, some of which includes a ban on on-line purchases and huge taxes. Then I heard them talking on the radio about upcoming regs in Indiana. Age limit to 21, fines for underage users, big fines for sellers, taxes, talk about addressing on-line purchases in a follow up bill. Truth is access to nic could end tomorrow. Who knows what will happen in May.

It all got too much and I ordered another liter. Went with my usual NN even though it costs a little more. Now my run out range goes from 85 to 100. I really can't see myself sucking it down at the same rate when I'm 85. Not with 47 years of smoking under my belt.

I had the same feeling... right now I have 19.5 liters, but 2 more would make me feel more comfortable because with 19.5 that means my wife and I need to cut down from 18mg to 9mg within the next 5 years to make it last a lifetime.

I passed on the last $34.99/liter sale from Heartland vapes figuring I would wait until Easter as they would probably run the same deal again then, but now Florida is talking about an online ban and I don't know what to do. Hopefully if it passes there will be a long period of time before it is enacted so I can take advantage of a sale.

Do I NEED 2 more liters? No, but it would make me feel more confident.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I had the same feeling... right now I have 19.5 liters, but 2 more would make me feel more comfortable because with 19.5 that means my wife and I need to cut down from 18mg to 9mg within the next 5 years to make it last a lifetime.

I passed on the last $34.99/liter sale from Heartland vapes figuring I would wait until Easter as they would probably run the same deal again then, but now Florida is talking about an online ban and I don't know what to do. Hopefully if it passes there will be a long period of time before it is enacted so I can take advantage of a sale.

Do I NEED 2 more liters? No, but it would make me feel more confident.

Peace of mind? Priceless.

 

[susieqz]

this continual need to buy more nic is a sickness.

i have all i'll ever need, but will that stop me from buying more?
no.

 

[Rossum]

this continual need to buy more nic is a sickness.

i have all i'll ever need, but will that stop me from buying more?
no.

I seem to have recovered from that illness.

I stopped buying nic 3-1/2 years ago. (I don't count the liter or so that I've bought since then for science.)

I stopped buying gear over two years ago. The only exception has been some cheap devices that I use for international travel where I don't want to risk my good stuff to an over-zealous customs agent.

 

[stols001]

I could buy more nic but I sort of don't think I need to, but I may once I have everything rebottled. So close. I probably don't need to, but honestly, can you ever have too much nic? It's a tough call.

If Armor has a sale I might buy another liter in glass. I truly dislike rebottling nic especially like 27 liters of it or however much I have.

Probably be better of buying another chest freezer the husband can put food in between my nic and my snus. Poor guy.

Also, the studies.... Medicine really is often governed by the placebo extent to a degree. I mean, there's like, roots, shoots, and foot cheese you can homeopathically take for HBP, and it works for some people. Like, I believe if you BELIEVE enough you can harness your body's power of suggestion and it like, behaves itself.

I also think that does not work on some stuff, like cancer. I could be wrong but whenever someone tells me they treated their cancer "homeopathically" or whatever, I immediately think "Yeah, you did not have cancer." Or, "You are like Deepak Chakra or whomever, you were lucky/exceptionally skilled at ignoring the obvious cancer, please don't become a medical charlatan." Etc.

Also I non developed countries in the world, Schizophrenia is really rare, during the first psychotic break the family just lovingly tends to and cares for the hallucinating member and they recover. I don't know if they COMPLETELY recover but they stop hallucinating or at least talking about It. I know if I was stuck in a cave being lovingly tended to by my family members, I would do//say anything almost to get out. But, it's kinda interesting.

I will say I tried EVERYTHING to get rid of my depression well not literally EVERYTHING but the only thing that worked (besides lamictal that almost killed me) was lithium. That was IT. And I am a dilettante in many things and my mom even sent me to "Sufi school" but instead of getting healthy every time I went, I awful stuff happened. It was really boring too, like, I had nothing in common with the wide eyed and bushy tailed students and I wanted to kick a few of them.

I did try; it did not help my depression AT All and I got sick of the disasters. I think we had 3 or 4 "reluctant daughters" on scholarship (LOL one of them was like, I am here because my mom said she would help mje pay to move to New York if I did. This SUCKS.)

I think all but one dropped out. I think the mommies had a support group meeting or something. But, tried.

 

[susieqz]

saint john's wort worked for my depression, when chemicals didn't.

takes a few weeks to work tho.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

I had the same feeling... right now I have 19.5 liters, but 2 more would make me feel more comfortable because with 19.5 that means my wife and I need to cut down from 18mg to 9mg within the next 5 years to make it last a lifetime.

I passed on the last $34.99/liter sale from Heartland vapes figuring I would wait until Easter as they would probably run the same deal again then, but now Florida is talking about an online ban and I don't know what to do. Hopefully if it passes there will be a long period of time before it is enacted so I can take advantage of a sale.

Do I NEED 2 more liters? No, but it would make me feel more confident.

Heartland has been having more sales than they normally used to so there's a chance they might be having St. Patty's Day sale. The downside is there's a chance it may only be for bulk ejuice since they haven't had one for that recently.