The Final Count Down -- Are You Ready?

[FranC]

53 next month. I’m vaping probably 12-15 ml of 12 mg juice a day.

That means you need a considerable amount of nic.

Someone got that calculator handy?

 

[Letitia]

Maybe I missed something, wouldn't be the 1st time , but my AWS LB-501 came with an AC adapter. Excellent scale.

Mine did too but the cord is short.

 

[Rossum]

That means you need a considerable amount of nic.
Someone got that calculator handy?

Vaping Community e-liquid Calculator - Vapocalypse Calculator

 

[FAAPOD]

OK. You're far from the only one. When I talk about building, I mean making your own coils and wicks. Building mods sounds like a bit of a stretch for you (and most of us). That's OK too. But if you know how to build coils then you just added a whole lot of versatility. And I wont listen to you tell me you could never learn. No one, and I mean no one knew how to build coils and we all do it now. And many said there was no way on Earth they thought they could do it. It's really quite simple.

Are you game? Better give me the right answer.

Yes, I’m down for learning how to do that. Also in learning the right gear to get to be able to run coils and wicks that I make. I’m very new to this and everything I have uses drop-in coils. I don’t think I can stockpile enough of those.

 

[FranC]

Vaping Community e-liquid Calculator - Vapocalypse Calculator

Thank you

 

[Rossum]

There are a million threads on ECF dedicated to gear talk. However, I'm guessing there is not one that is focused on new vapers in the face of our 9-month deadline. Most new vapers remain oblivious (as do many veteran vapers) to the deadline. We have seen a few people on this thread now who feel panicked and I can't say as if I blame them. I understand. They do not need to panic as Rossum and others have repeatedly pointed out. But they do need to begin the process. There are a number of considerations when selecting one's gear arsenal for the apocalypse that will occur in 9 months. What type of atomizer(s), how many, build vs drop-in coils, building skills, mods, mech vs regulated, power mode, temp control, batteries, on and on and on. Add everyone has a budget and it's clear each case will be different.

Most of us had years to find the gear and setups we currently enjoy. Sadly, newbs don't have that luxury. They need to make decisions in the coming months about how they will be vaping for years to come. It can be overwhelming without the benefit of direction.

Rossum has been spot on with not only his previous freezer thread he started 2-1/2 years ago but also THIS thread. It gets people focused. My fear is that there is information overload. Or perhaps better stated, too many topics to cover in one thread. Rossum kind of has this thread focused on the juice (thank God as this is my weak spot). We've mixed gear and other supplies in with the discussion. My question is this, would the newbie be better served having separate threads? One for the liquid side and one for the gear side?

We have 9 months, perhaps effectively less if vendors see the inevitable and bail sooner. I suspect options will dwindle as these 9 months proceed. Newbs with little knowledge need a plan of attack that fits their needs. Just asking for thoughts and opinions. If Rossum doesn't want to commandeer a gear thread then I will volunteer. Or we'll just weave all topics in one thread. My only concern is helping the newb and truthfully I haven't done much of that in the last 4-5 years. Thoughts??

Gear is kinda tough for me to recommend. I found gear that I enjoy and will last a lifetime back in 2014-2015, and I bought plenty of it over the following couple of years. None of that is available anymore, and even if it were still being made, most people wouldn't be willing spend the kind of money I did (in part to support the artisans that were making it right here on ECF).

The other catch is: Gear is a very personal thing. What your or I like may not be what the next person likes.

I will make one definitive statement though: You need gear that takes standard-sized batteries, either 18650s or 21700s. Anything with an internal battery is a no-go for the long term.

 

[Letitia]

Good bottle source?

dropperbottles.com for plastic (code DIY for a discount)and glass bottle outlet Amazon store for glass are both good. Glassbottleoutlet.com shipping is high unless you order in bulk, their Amazon store is eligible for Amazon free shipping.

 

[FranC]

Yes, I’m down for learning how to do that. Also in learning the right gear to get to be able to run coils and wicks that I make. I’m very new to this and everything I have uses drop-in coils. I don’t think I can stockpile enough of those.

If I figured that correctly on the calculator Rossum supplied you would need 1 liter of 100mg nic for every 1 1/5 years.

 

[Bronze]

Yes, I’m down for learning how to do that. Also in learning the right gear to get to be able to run coils and wicks that I make. I’m very new to this and everything I have uses drop-in coils. I don’t think I can stockpile enough of those.

Yeah, the less you depend on suppliers the better you will be. I suppose you could stockpile a billion drop in coils but then that's what you're stuck with for eternity. If you can build you can untether yourself from locking in on drop-ins.

So if i understand you right you do NOT have any rebuildable atomizers? Everything you have uses drop-in coils?

 

[FAAPOD]

If I figured that correctly on the calculator Rossum supplied you would need 1 liter of 100mg nic for every 1 1/5 years.

Lol, so 25 - 30 liters. “We’re gonna need a bigger freezer.”

 

[Letitia]

Yes, I’m down for learning how to do that. Also in learning the right gear to get to be able to run coils and wicks that I make. I’m very new to this and everything I have uses drop-in coils. I don’t think I can stockpile enough of those.

First learn what type of draw you prefer. Many of us like to switch it up throughout the day, some are happy with a dialed in specific draw. The draw will determine what attys you'll want on hand. Our building materials will always be available just not the atty.

 

[Rossum]

Lol, so 25 - 30 liters. “We’re gonna need a bigger freezer.”

Not that big actually. A single cubic foot is 28.3 liters. Of course, that doesn't account for the inefficiency of packing round bottles with necks and caps into it, but I bet something between 3 and 5 cubic feet would do.

FWIW, my wife's big freezer up in PA is 25 cubic feet.

 

[Letitia]

If I figured that correctly on the calculator Rossum supplied you would need 1 liter of 100mg nic for every 1 1/5 years.

Frankly I would recommend 250, takes up less freezer space and you need fewer bottles to decant the nic into.

 

[FAAPOD]

Yeah, the less you depend on suppliers the better you will be. I suppose you could stockpile a billion drop in coils but then that's what you're stuck with for eternity. If you can build you can untether yourself from locking in on drop-ins.

So if i understand you right you do NOT have any rebuildable atomizers? Everything you have uses drop-in coils?

Yes, that’s my current situation. So, I’m looking for rebuildable atomizers, then? And mods to run them? Is there a particular atomizer you’d recommend for which parts are abundant? Or are the parts fairly universal? I apologize if this is a really basic question. I’m about two months into my vaping life. I couldn’t walk in a shop and point out a rebuildable atomizer to you.

 

[Letitia]

This thread will soon outpace the Shiny thread!

 

[Bronze]

Gear is kinda tough for me to recommend. I found gear that I enjoy and will last a lifetime back in 2014-2015, and I bought plenty of it over the following couple of years. None of that is available anymore, and even if it were still being made, most people wouldn't be willing spend the kind of money I did (in part to support the artisans that were making it right here on ECF).

The other catch is: Gear is a very personal thing. What your or I like may not be what the next person likes.

I will make one definitive statement though: You need gear that takes standard-sized batteries, either 18650s or 21700s. Anything with an internal battery is a no-go for the long term.

Gear is very personal. But probably less personal than flavor. But both are unique to each person. And I completely agree about the standard batteries. Some things the newbie is going to have to be told what to do. Batteries would be in that category.

I spent several years trying out all kinds of different gear. It was never ending. I finally backed off on that and just stayed within a limited range of things I knew were winners for me. I have it pinpointed now and am enjoying my vape more than ever. But as a result, I'm not up on every new mod or atty out there. I know many who are who can bring this to the table.

 

[Rossum]

A single cubic foot is 28.3 liters.

Off topic, but it just hit me.

• 1 ounce = 28.3 grams
• 1 cubic foot = 28.3 liters.

Coincidence?

 

[Bronze]

Yes, that’s my current situation. So, I’m looking for rebuildable atomizers, then? And mods to run them? Is there a particular atomizer you’d recommend for which parts are abundant? Or are the parts fairly universal? I apologize if this is a really basic question. I’m about two months into my vaping life. I couldn’t walk in a shop and point out a rebuildable atomizer to you.

First things first. Stop apologizing. You have no reason to apologize for anything. You're new to vaping. No one expects you to know much about all the options you have. In other words, no question is too basic. Have you used your Private Messaging here on ECF yet? It's the INBOX at the top of your screen to the right.

 

[Letitia]

Yes, that’s my current situation. So, I’m looking for rebuildable atomizers, then? And mods to run them? Is there a particular atomizer you’d recommend for which parts are abundant? Or are the parts fairly universal? I apologize if this is a really basic question. I’m about two months into my vaping life. I couldn’t walk in a shop and point out a rebuildable atomizer to you.

Pickup a cheap single coil rta (rebuildable tank atomizer) and a rda (rebuildable dripping atomizer). Fasttech is a good source, we can't recommend specific ones without knowing your draw style and what devices you'll be using them on. 26g kanthal is a good wire to learn with and organic cotton pads are cheap. We can help with links.

 

[Bronze]

Off topic, but it just hit me.

• 1 ounce = 28.3 grams
• 1 cubic foot = 28.3 liters.

Coincidence?

Where imperial and metric are in harmony.