The Final Count Down -- Are You Ready?

[jandrew]

Yeah once upon a time, (previous decade) there was a rule of thumb that Li-ion cells would lose as much as 10% of capacity per year, even if they were un-used. But I think the chemistry has improved since then.

I have some VTC5s that were made in January of 2014. They've been used off-and on. They still test at ~90% of their rated capacity and their IR measurements are pretty decent too.

It does seem that some of the anecdotal evidence here suggests better longevity than is expected from the Battery University pages:

https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

However, the basic longevity principles probably still hold true: storing at 40-50% State of Charge (SoC) is better than storing a fully charged battery; cooler temps (but above freezing) is better than warmer temps; undercharging (say, to 4.1v) will extend cycle life of the cells (similarly, not fully discharging will extend cycle life).

 

[Bronze]

I know the AW 18650s I purchased from ProVape and RTD back in 2013 were in use aprox 50% of the time (I rotated batteries) and about two years ago they were lasting only about half the time vs when they were new. Anomaly? Normal? I have no idea. Either way they went in the recycle box.

 

[englishmick]

I've got 10 button top 18650's and keep 4 Provaris running. At any time 4 batteries are in use and 6 are on the rack at full charge, so they spend the majority of their time sitting around fully charged. Maybe I would be better off using less and keeping some of them stored at half charge. On the other hand batteries aren't a large expense. Can't say I worry much that they might only last 3 years when I could stretch them out to 4 years if I handled them differently.

It's hard to tell if they are holding less charge, at least for me. I have 9 mods going at the moment and I use them randomly. One of my batteries could have lost half its charge and I probably wouldn't notice. Wish I had one of those fancy chargers that measure the state of a battery. I just recycle them when they are around 3 years old.

 

[Bronze]

On the other hand batteries aren't a large expense.

This is my thinking. That's why 75% capacity = "shot" to me. I consider myself a cheap bastich, a miser, a tightwad, cheapskate, and a churl of despicable proportions but I draw a line at my e-cig batteries.

 

[Pinggolfer]

This is my thinking. That's why 75% capacity = "shot" to me. I consider myself a cheap bastich, a miser, a tightwad, cheapskate, and a churl of despicable proportions but I draw a line at my e-cig batteries.

Saying you are frugal is being very kind.

 

[Bronze]

Saying you are frugal is being very kind.

Some of the wealthiest people I know are the cheapest SOBs I know. And it isn't how they got rich (as the saying goes). It's a game to them. A challenge. How do I get the most for the least. This is a virtue for many of our successful business people. It does lead to efficiency and less waste.

 

[CMD-Ky]

This is my thinking. That's why 75% capacity = "shot" to me. I consider myself a cheap bastich, a miser, a tightwad, cheapskate, and a churl of despicable proportions but I draw a line at my e-cig batteries.

All of the above is true and more but the man does have his priorities.

 

[Uncle]

Some of the wealthiest people I know are the cheapest SOBs I know. And it isn't how they got rich (as the saying goes). It's a game to them. A challenge. How do I get the most for the least. This is a virtue for many of our successful business people. It does lead to efficiency and less waste.

AH - The same "challenge" and a "virtue" for a number of people who do not have the money for different reasons too . . . Ya' really can't beat a sale or getting the lowest price possible for quality products . . . Just Sayin' . . .


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[Bronze]

AH - The same "challenge" and a "virtue" for a number of people who do not have the money for different reasons too . . . Ya' really can't beat a sale or getting the lowest price possible for quality products . . . Just Sayin' . . .


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Not exactly the same. People who do not have the money are challenged to buy stuff on sale not because it's a game but rather a necessity. Millionaires like saving $1 on a pack of hotdogs because it makes them feel like they won not because they needed that $1.

BTW, there is absolutely nothing wrong with either thinking.

 

[Pinggolfer]

We just keep winning and winning.

 

[Bronze]

Test then they go directly to stash. Aegis Solo

Well, I may keep one out.

 

[Bronze]

The manuals that come with these e-cigs are so puny. Need a magnifier to read them. Obviously the manuals were printed by young people.
Their day is coming.

 

[Jebbn]

The manuals that come with these e-cigs are so puny. Need a magnifier to read them. Obviously the manuals were printed by young people.
Their day is coming.

Download

use +/- and never feel excluded or outcast again.

Actually, not really a manual at all. I take it all back. You are right, its a conspiracy against vision and youth impaired

 

[FranC]

Test then they go directly to stash. Aegis Solo

Well, I may keep one out.

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I have 2 of those coming. Love the one I have

 

[englishmick]

My order (VapeNW)was shipped really fast. Only shipped 24 hours ago though. Downside is they send by First Class mail (I think) which doesn't have tracking or insurance so if something goes wrong you're out of luck.

Quoting myself with a correction.

I got the shipping notification on 8/30 which didn't have tracking. Yesterday I got another email with a tracking number, by which time it was already at my local post office. Today they sent me another email saying it was out for delivery.

So VapeNW do provide tracking, just a little late. Pretty good delivery. Five days from ordering to getting the package, over a holiday weekend.

 

[Bronze]

Download

use +/- and never feel excluded or outcast again.

Actually, not really a manual at all. I take it all back. You are right, its a conspiracy against vision and youth impaired

You had me pumped up there for a minute thinking I could have the manual on my laptop for easy viewing. My bubble burst when I saw it was the equivalent of Chinese.

 

[Uncle]

The manuals that come with these e-cigs are so puny. Need a magnifier to read them. Obviously the manuals were printed by young people.
Their day is coming.

Would this help - they have a few other links for their products at the bottom too:

How to use Geekvape Aegis Mini Mod | User Manual​

Oh YEA - I also found on the Geekvape website, in the Support area - that you can also get manuals for a number of their products from their Google Drive too:

Geekvape Kit - Google Drive​

Hope the information is helpful . . .



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[Bronze]

Would this help - they have a few other links for their products at the bottom too:

How to use Geekvape Aegis Mini Mod | User Manual​

Oh YEA - I also found on the Geekvape website, in the Support area - that you can also get manuals for a number of their products from their Google Drive too:

Geekvape Kit - Google Drive​

Hope the information is helpful . . .



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Ahhh, that's the ticket! Much better! Bookmarked.

Good find Uncle. Thank you!

 

[mightymen]

I have 2 of those coming. Love the one I have

That is one though device your getting. Seen a video where the guy soaked it in water then drove over it with his car. Kept on working.

 

[rosesense]

That is one though device your getting. Seen a video where the guy soaked it in water then drove over it with his car. Kept on working.

Hope @stols001 picked up a few.