The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

[ratchet62]

Unfortunately I still need assistance with Red Type Blend & Cowboy Blend Flavor but now in addition to those two I'm not finding anything about Koolada either. If anyone can help with good percentage ranges for these it would be greatly appreciated.

Can't help with the tobacco flavors, but I can about Koolada.

It is more of an enhancer than a flavor. It provides a 'cool' throat feel, kinda like menthol, but without that menthol 'minty' taste. Some people say to use it at 1-2 drops per 5 ml of base. I prefer percentages, so I use from .5% to 2%, depending on the degree of 'cool' I want. Normally, I'm in the 1% range. Very strong flavoring, not much required.

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[Dreaded Vapour]

Thanks, I'll give it a whirl...

 

[Dreaded Vapour]

How about Mary Jane? Anyone find the optimum ratio?

 

[Alexander Mundy]

I upped my Key Lime a little and it has hints of perfume after steeping.
If I add some more base to bring the percentage down and steep will that be the same as mixing that percentage to begin with?

BTW, don't accidentally put Key Lime in a tank half full of Orange Cream. Bleh

 

[gtbb]

Did it smoke? And I don't mean vape.

 

[SouthernBliss]

How about Mary Jane?

Initially that has a very strong pine tree flavor that seems to mellow a bit with time. I've done a mix with 10% MJ and 3% strawberry and it turned out favorably. It didn't seem to be a good stand alone though so consider adding a minor not to go with the organic flavor.

 

[paddymx]

I upped my Key Lime a little and it has hints of perfume after steeping.
If I add some more base to bring the percentage down and steep will that be the same as mixing that percentage to begin with?

BTW, don't accidentally put Key Lime in a tank half full of Orange Cream. Bleh

If you had a mix:
70/30 12mg base for 9ml
flavor 100/0 ....................1ml
you have 10ml at 10.8mg at 73/27(10% flavor)
if you add: 1 ml of 70/30 12mg base you get 11 ml 72.73/27.27 at 9.82mg

But if you had vaped 1 ml then add 1 ml 12mg base you get 10ml 72.70/27.30 at 10.92

so it looks like you would up your mg a tad

Thinking about this makes my head hurt.

 

[Alexander Mundy]

If you had a mix:
70/30 12mg base for 9ml
flavor 100/0 ....................1ml
you have 10ml at 10.8mg at 73/27(10% flavor)
if you add: 1 ml of 70/30 12mg base you get 11 ml 72.73/27.27 at 9.82mg

But if you had vaped 1 ml then add 1 ml 12mg base you get 10ml 72.70/27.30 at 10.92

so it looks like you would up your mg a tad

Thinking about this makes my head hurt.

The math I can do and I have PG, VG, and nic.
I mixed at 20% KL and I have been doing 15%.
Pushed it a little to far this time.
What I don't know is if the flavor will mellow out like if I had mixed it at 15% to begin with or if I should write off the 30ml I made.
Guess I could try, but thought someone might know so I don't throw good after bad and waste my time.

 

[ratchet62]

The math I can do and I have PG, VG, and nic.
I mixed at 20% KL and I have been doing 15%.
Pushed it a little to far this time.
What I don't know is if the flavor will mellow out like if I had mixed it at 15% to begin with or if I should write off the 30ml I made.
Guess I could try, but thought someone might know so I don't throw good after bad and waste my time.

I've had reasonable results with dilution like you want to do. I just make a base of PG/VG and nic without flavor, then do the math to figure out how much to add to drop the total flavor percentage.

Yes, the flavor will mellow and doesn't require much steeping time to do so.

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[Alexander Mundy]

I've had reasonable results with dilution like you want to do. I just make a base of PG/VG and nic without flavor, then do the math to figure out how much to add to drop the total flavor percentage.

Yes, the flavor will mellow and doesn't require much steeping time to do so.

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Thanks

 

[MsComptrtchr]

Anyone have a recipe (w/percentages, not drops if possible) for TFA peanut butter and jelly? I don't see a plain grape or concord grape flavor at wizard labs - can I use Grape juice? Wondering if I need to add additional stuff like EM?

 

[3mg Meniere]

I don't see a plain grape or concord grape flavor at wizard labs

There are three of them. Grid format, page two, lines five and six. so you don't need to find him.

I just discovered the peanut butter and kiwi sandwich. Yummmmm! I might just try a mix like that someday.

 

[Alexander Mundy]

I upped my Key Lime a little and it has hints of perfume after steeping.
If I add some more base to bring the percentage down and steep will that be the same as mixing that percentage to begin with?

BTW, don't accidentally put Key Lime in a tank half full of Orange Cream. Bleh

Worked like a charm!

 

[MsComptrtchr]

Yeah, when I look at that, there is LA Grape Flavor (I don't do Lorann) which leaves either TFA Grape juice OR Jolly Rancher Grape. That's why I was asking if TFA Grape Juice would suffice?

There are three of them. Grid format, page two, lines five and six. so you don't need to find him.

I just discovered the peanut butter and kiwi sandwich. Yummmmm! I might just try a mix like that someday.

 

[3mg Meniere]

Yeah, when I look at that, there is LA Grape Flavor (I don't do Lorann) which leaves either TFA Grape juice OR Jolly Rancher Grape. That's why I was asking if TFA Grape Juice would suffice?

OH!! OK. Now I understand. I thought you were thinking of Welch's

 

[Alexander Mundy]

Anyone have a recipe (w/percentages, not drops if possible) for TFA peanut butter and jelly? I don't see a plain grape or concord grape flavor at wizard labs - can I use Grape juice? Wondering if I need to add additional stuff like EM?

Don't have recipe, but have TFA grape juice and grape jolly rancher and peanut butter. Might give it a shot. I would think a little bavarian cream would be needed and something for the jelly taste itself. Neither of the grapes taste like jelly.

Anyone know what would transform grape to jelly taste?

 

[3mg Meniere]

Raisin???

I don't want anything too sweet with peanut butter. But remember that true jellies have sugar added.

 

[Alexander Mundy]

Sitting here at break dripping 12-1/2% grape jolly rancher & (6% peanut butter, 3% double chocolate clear, 1-1/2% Bavarian cream) that I had made up already and it is not half bad. I think without the double chocolate there might be a good pb&j there. If I have time tonight I will mix up some more peanut butter (am out of mixed by itself) and give it a whirl.

 

[MsComptrtchr]

Watching to see what happens

Sitting here at break dripping 12-1/2% grape jolly rancher & (6% peanut butter, 3% double chocolate clear, 1-1/2% Bavarian cream) that I had made up already and it is not half bad. I think without the double chocolate there might be a good pb&j there. If I have time tonight I will mix up some more peanut butter (am out of mixed by itself) and give it a whirl.

 

[3mg Meniere]

I will soon be able to give a report on vanilla butternut and quince. I started with 9 ml (equal Vg-PG): 1 ml flavor.