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From Bill's post, #3030 in thread, many recipes, re-posting for Felipe...I also added 2% Graham cracker based on his notes under recipes

Thanks a lot i run out of sweetener, Anyone know if i can use marshmallow or ethyl maltol instead? I also got Brown sugar
 
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From Bill's post, #3030 in thread, many recipes, re-posting for Felipe...I also added 2% Graham cracker based on his notes under recipes

Keep posting your recipes. I'm definitely going to try some of them when I get over this cold. Happy to report I am finally now on the other side of this one. I definitely like what you are doing! :D :toast:
 

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I still don't have the majority of my new ingredients, but I tried something with my new goodies. It's not great, but it's not bad.

Strawberry 10%
Sweet Cream 10%
Blackberry 5%
Cotton Candy 3%
Sweetener 2%

My pure fruit mixes have been seeming 1 dimensional, and since I got some cream, I wanted to give it a shot.

I knew from tasting that the strawberry is delicious IMO, but lacking in the "tart" department even at 15%. So I threw in the blackberry to try and go in that direction.

It's a bit "dull", I know I'm using a lot of cream. It is nice though. I'll try another mix with a little less cream and a bit more fruit. I don't know if a few % of apple would help or just muddle the overall flavor. I might have to find out! I also have some Vanilla Custard I could use instead of some of the Sweet Cream, but I'm afraid that the mix is already rich and not crisp enough.
 

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Today turned out to be a good day.When i went to bed very late last night,the tracking for my cream cheese icing was still not showing any movement,so i went to bed dissapointed,only to find it sitting in my mailbox today,finally.Secondly,i placed another order with tfa thursday morning,i was also dissapointed last night that i had never gotten a shipping email from them yet,so figured it would be monday before they sent it out.The one i put in last week was sent priority mail,and i did not get it until monday,this one was sent regular first class,and it got here today.So i am a happy man today haha.I got my 4oz. vanilla swirl,good thing because i was almost out of my small vial,my 1oz. cream cheese,a 15ml of ry4 double,and a small sample of honey flavor.Another thing that made my day is,my first go at tobacco extraction was a success.I strained it last week,made up a test bottle of the juice,and let it sit a week,it tastes fantastic,now the possibilities are endless.It is very good by itself,but i'm going to try it with a few different fruit flavors,and definitely with the honey,as flue cured honey tobacco i have heard is really good,so that one is a must to try out.
 
Well i ran out of sweetener and also whiped cream so i rework Bills Recipe a little bit , i dont know how the original one taste but this new one taste reaaaaally good a little meregue key lime pay like.

Bills Original Recipe

Key Lime - 12%
Pie Crust - 3%
sweetener - 3%
Graham Cracker - 2%
Whiped Cream - 2%

Modified one whitout Sweetener and Whiped Cream , i also increase slightly the Pie Crust

Key Lime - 12%
Pie Crust - 4%
Sweet Cream - 3%
Graham Cracker - 2%
Marshmallow - 2%
Vanilla Swirl – 2%
 

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Cliffy, do you taste test your juices at the time of mixing? I get 90 - 95% of final taste in my juices at time of mix. They will either improve with flavor blending, which I can usually detect at time of mix, or they won't (only the vape gods know why). Most will improve with flavor blending, and reach maturity in 24 to 48 hours, but you can tell how good the mix is initially, at least I can, and I don't need to wait for days to tell if something is going to be good. I test mix using the 100DT, which gives me about 2.5ml's, enough to vape in a small tank, and I'll usually make a mix and then vape the tank, unless it's not good, or not right, in which case I just pour the tank out, remix and go again. In this way, I'm vaping 90% or so juice at time of mix. By experience, I have a pretty good idea what this 90% juice is going to taste like a day or two later. In fact, once the bubbles leave the mix (usually within 2 hours), most flavor bonding is done, and then you have a 95% mix. This only works with high flavoring percentage mixes, which do not require long steep times. So, I write this just to clarify the method I use, because it doesn't take days to know whether I have a good juice mix or not.

Using the 100DT, I can change my starting percentages in less than 5 minutes with a new batch. In this way, I can usually find the sweet spot for primaries within ten or fifteen minutes, regardless of mix complexity. This method works....for me, anyway. I do know what my juice is likely to taste like two days from now. Just sayin'. :2c:
As far as the quantity of test juice, making a bit more doesn't bother me much as 6ml samples go quite fast for me ... and I've only had one complete fail while others are okay enough to vape the sample.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong (shaking too much maybe?) because without my version of steeping, the bubbles don't settle until my new liquid sits overnight but I can't give you true estimates because I've gone to sleep usually. I do know that is well over two hours though.

Not knocking your technique...just that I'm satisfied that this works for me. :) at least for now ... I'll probably adjust some more in time...
 
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Well i ran out of sweetener and also whiped cream so i rework Bills Recipe a little bit , i dont know how the original one taste but this new one taste reaaaaally good a little meregue key lime pay like.

Bills Original Recipe

Key Lime - 12%
Pie Crust - 3%
sweetener - 3%
Graham Cracker - 2%
Whiped Cream - 2%

Modified one whitout Sweetener and Whiped Cream , i also increase slightly the Pie Crust

Key Lime - 12%
Pie Crust - 4%
Sweet Cream - 3%
Graham Cracker - 2%
Marshmallow - 2%
Vanilla Swirl – 2%

Hey, this is great. All Bill's customization ideas are here. Take the given recipe as a starting point and make it your own. Nice job, Felipe!

Tim
 

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Indeed, today seems to be a goo day for a few folks! Very fun environment.

Still waiting for USPS to drop off the hoard, so I tweaked my strawberry cream. I'm sure there's a few already posted, but I know I'm lacking a lot of goodies.

Strawberry 15%
Raspberry 5%
Sweet Cream 5%
Cotton Candy 3%
Vanilla Custard 2%

Much better this time around. Upped Strawberry (+5%), lowered Sweet Cream (-5%), eliminated Sweetener, and added 2% Vanilla Custard. It brought the strawberry forward, made the flavor brighter but still rich.

At 15 watts on my new fogger, this is doing just just fine. It's a very fresh mix from a 100 drop test, but I wouldn't mind making a bigger batch. Still a little light on strawberry, but I think something genuinely tangy would help, like sweet and tart or lemon. Loving the custard though, doesn't make it too rich at all, with the lessened cream content.

Still not great by any means, but I'm happy with the progression so far.
 
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Could I separately mix 1drop flavor and 1 PG then put 1 drop of the mixture in the 100DT for 0.5% or 1 drop flavor and 3 drops PG to get 0.25%? I know mathematically it works out, asking if by doing that in a 100DT if it would accurately reflect the taste of a larger mix. And if not, what are your thoughts on why it would not?

Jim you reading my mind, I was thinking the same thing, and still be able to do 100DT
 

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I got flavors... But can't get back to the house! Ughhhhh!

I feel your pain again! Apparently since I live in such a terrible apartment complex, they stopped delivering packages - they leave a "sorry we missed you" note in my mailbox, and don't even bother knocking on the door. Too much theft.

So the post office closed at 2pm, I get my note at 3pm, and I'm expected to pick my stuff up myself Tuesday, since they won't be open on Sunday or Columbus Day.

Not uh, not good enough! Persistent complaining got them to agree to let me pick it up after the truck makes it back, despite the office being "closed".

Why put a package on a truck if you know for a fact it won't be delivered?! Fuel economy 101, don't lug around crap you don't need! Just let me know I could have picked it up at 7am this morning, and leave it at the office! I mean, I'm sure my package loved the view driving around Akron, but come on.

Ugh. Rant over. Let's just hope I'm swimming in flavors by this evening. I'm not getting my hopes up.

Addendum: I was able to pick it up. Still a little confused by the whole ordeal, but more than pleased at the selection I've got now. I don't know what to make first! I'm thinking key lime pie, I saw that quoted recently...
 
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Sheesh guys, I didn't mean to kill the thread! I just wanted to complain about USPS, we've all been there :p

Now that my cache of flavors arrived, I've been hunting down recipes to make. I made Bill's Key Lime pie, and it was great. Didn't make a big batch or vape much of my 100 drops, so I don't have a ton to say, but I will make a big one. I also made his Dutch Apple Pie ala Mode, but I made some bad substitutions. You see, I didn't realize there was plain butter, and got movie theater butter instead... Hasn't turned out as planned, the apple mysteriously vanished. Also had very little of my 100 drops, so maybe it needs some time. Who knows?

Then I hunt down the Pink Starburst.

Pink Stardust (Pink Starburst)

Strawberry - 8%
Sweet Cream - 4%
Vanilla Swirl - 4%
Cotton Candy - 2%
Sweet and Tart - 2%

And I realize I was working on something similar, inadvertently!

Strawberry 15%
Raspberry 5%
Sweet Cream 5%
Cotton Candy 3%
Vanilla Custard 2%

I haven't tried made the Starburst yet (I definitely will, no doubt about it!), but I found it kind of funny. I must have wanted to try this so badly, I subconsciously remembered part of the recipe. Now that I've got my Sweet and Tart, and don't have to use raspberry, I'll definitely be giving it a shot.
 

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I feel your pain again! Apparently since I live in such a terrible apartment complex, they stopped delivering packages - they leave a "sorry we missed you" note in my mailbox, and don't even bother knocking on the door. Too much theft.

So the post office closed at 2pm, I get my note at 3pm, and I'm expected to pick my stuff up myself Tuesday, since they won't be open on Sunday or Columbus Day.

Not uh, not good enough! Persistent complaining got them to agree to let me pick it up after the truck makes it back, despite the office being "closed".

Why put a package on a truck if you know for a fact it won't be delivered?! Fuel economy 101, don't lug around crap you don't need! Just let me know I could have picked it up at 7am this morning, and leave it at the office! I mean, I'm sure my package loved the view driving around Akron, but come on.

Ugh. Rant over. Let's just hope I'm swimming in flavors by this evening. I'm not getting my hopes up.

Addendum: I was able to pick it up. Still a little confused by the whole ordeal, but more than pleased at the selection I've got now. I don't know what to make first! I'm thinking key lime pie, I saw that quoted recently...

At least they left you a notice,so you knew it was in town.My regular mailman is very good,if nobody is home when he delivers,he will put any packages in between the door and screen door,or somewhere where people passing by wont see it.Now if we have a substitute carrier,it gets so screwed up it's unbelievable,it's gotten to the point that i talked with our regular carrier,and he let's me know ahead of time when he will be taking vacation time so i can hold off on ordering anything that would be delivered during that time haha.I had 3 different times that i had a package coming,and ended up with a sub delivering the days that they were supposed to be here,2 of them i have never recieved even though they showed out for delivery that day,and the other is the best i have ever seen.My house is not hard to find at all,and my address is very clearly marked on the front of the house,but this sub sent my package back to the post office,and then back to the sender with a notice that said "Address does not exist,return to sender" this one still baffles me,i must have one hell of an imagination to be able to come to my non existent house every day of the week,open the door and walk in,it must just be all in my head,because some idiot can't see it right in front of him haha.I complained on that same guy several times,as he was the same one to "lose" 2 packages several weeks apart from each other,and then send the 3rd back.I was told they were getting several complaints about him and they assured me he would not be delivering my area again,but yet i still see him every few months,so now i just plan ahead and hope our regular guy doesn't get sick or take an unexpected day off haha.
 
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Finally caught up reading the thread!!!!! :headbang: A lot to wrap my brain around. Got order coming for all the suggested starter flavors in sample size for 100DTs, TFA account set up for bulk purchases, and ready to learn by mixing :party: As I was reading through the posts and the rules of thumb I was wondering are there any rules of DON'T DO THIS :rules:
 

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Indeed, today seems to be a goo day for a few folks! Very fun environment.

Still waiting for USPS to drop off the hoard, so I tweaked my strawberry cream. I'm sure there's a few already posted, but I know I'm lacking a lot of goodies.

Strawberry 15%
Raspberry 5%
Sweet Cream 5%
Cotton Candy 3%
Vanilla Custard 2%

Much better this time around. Upped Strawberry (+5%), lowered Sweet Cream (-5%), eliminated Sweetener, and added 2% Vanilla Custard. It brought the strawberry forward, made the flavor brighter but still rich.

At 15 watts on my new fogger, this is doing just just fine. It's a very fresh mix from a 100 drop test, but I wouldn't mind making a bigger batch. Still a little light on strawberry, but I think something genuinely tangy would help, like sweet and tart or lemon. Loving the custard though, doesn't make it too rich at all, with the lessened cream content.

Still not great by any means, but I'm happy with the progression so far.


Umm, which strawberry :) lol
 

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I feel your pain again! Apparently since I live in such a terrible apartment complex, they stopped delivering packages - they leave a "sorry we missed you" note in my mailbox, and don't even bother knocking on the door. Too much theft.

So the post office closed at 2pm, I get my note at 3pm, and I'm expected to pick my stuff up myself Tuesday, since they won't be open on Sunday or Columbus Day.

Not uh, not good enough! Persistent complaining got them to agree to let me pick it up after the truck makes it back, despite the office being "closed".

Why put a package on a truck if you know for a fact it won't be delivered?! Fuel economy 101, don't lug around crap you don't need! Just let me know I could have picked it up at 7am this morning, and leave it at the office! I mean, I'm sure my package loved the view driving around Akron, but come on.

Ugh. Rant over. Let's just hope I'm swimming in flavors by this evening. I'm not getting my hopes up.

Addendum: I was able to pick it up. Still a little confused by the whole ordeal, but more than pleased at the selection I've got now. I don't know what to make first! I'm thinking key lime pie, I saw that quoted recently...

I have a phrase for that situation, I don't think you'll like it, but....


THEY'RE RUN BY THE GOVERNMENT!

See, being a government employed family-I can be rude lol Because it seems like it's like that no matter where LOL


Ok, soooooooooooooooo.................. what did you make? I've only been home about an hour and I'm not sure if I have the energy to play with this stuff. :( I need inspiration to make something before tomorrow ends hahahaha
 

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Umm, which strawberry :) lol

It's just called "Strawberry Flavor" on the bottle. I assume it's what Bill was referring to on his "must" list. At least I hope so, because I got 4oz of it!

Ok, soooooooooooooooo.................. what did you make? I've only been home about an hour and I'm not sure if I have the energy to play with this stuff. :( I need inspiration to make something before tomorrow ends hahahaha

Glad you're back home, if not quite to the lab yet!

Well, I made some pies and the above Strawberry custard/cream. I'm liking the custard cream, and I liked Bill's Pies: I made Lemon Meringue, Dutch Apple ala Mode (but wrong), and Key Lime.

I also did get around to the Pink Starburst, and that Sweet and Tarts really took it in a different direction. Very candy like, the cream was way in the background.

I'm trying to wrap my head around having flavors, mostly just copying easy to find forum posts. I've considered a S'more, is that inspiring? I'm sure its a tough one. I know I've got Double Chocolate (Dark), Chocolate (Clear), and Bittersweet, as well as Marshmallow and graham cracker. What could go wrong?
 
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Don't have the time to read 4k+ so I apologize if I've repeated others thoughts. All I have to say is top notch organization. MSDS on everything. Warnings where appropriate, fast shipping, solid packaging.... My first destination when DIY hands down.

Thumbs up zizzlak! We all agree! I've not had better service as far as flavoring ANYWHERE like I do with TFA. Glad to see ya here...let us know if you have any questions or we can help you in any way!!! :vapor:
 
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