Alright, some steep it hot, some steep it long, and some steep it for a few hours only.
The last time this debate was had, I believe Classy had to intervene - please, let's just drop it, as we've heard from both sides and will now make our own decisions. Bill's spoken his piece, Maurice, I hope you've spoken yours. You've inspired me to play around with juice that benefits from steeping (eventually, maybe), so you're not falling upon deaf ears.
There is far more to what I've been saying than steeping of whatever sort effects "some" flavors. I do think the message I'm looking to communicate is being lost. I don't disagree with Bill's methodology in the creation of an e-liquid, far from it actually.
Prior to mixing at all one needs to know a bit of math or how to effectively use any of the calculators out there.
I consider step one in the actual process of DIY to be individual flavor mixes, this gives the mixer an idea of what each flavor is like at a given percentage. Knowing the individual flavors sets the foundation for mixing combinations of flavors. At this point folks get frustrated, maybe because they thought they had amassed the ingredients they would like but found out this was not the case. For others they realize that individual flavors aren't enough, these folks move on to the next step while retaining the knowledge they gained here in step one.
Bill's methodology is essentially step two in the learning process of mixing e-liquids, it takes a bit of knowledge about the flavors the mixer has available to them and provides a method of creating a liquid that works. Working off of the information gained in step one people mix not at random but with a purpose and background of what each flavor can bring to a mix. At this point it really does not matter much at all what percentage of flavoring is used so long as the flavor one is looking for is found, so long as the mixer has taken good care to document their mix all is well in the world. If the mixer is completely satisfied at this point there is no need to do anything else.
My method is not replacing what Bill has put down, it is essentially step three and completely optional, not necessary if you will but complementary in that it uses Bill's methodology as a foundation. It is an additional step that is reserved for those who find their efforts using the previous method need a bit more tweeking to get that last little bit out of something they like but feel could be just a bit better. Sure it takes a bit of additional time, however for those of us who are both looking for that something extra, or maybe simply can't devote the time, or even those who want for whatever reason to use less flavorings, an additional step is needed.
I've not intended to insult anyone, or frustrate their efforts in any way, if so I am sorry.
For those of you who need to get up and running fast, recipes are a great way to get mixes on the table, while your at it learn the individual flavors too. When you want to make your own recipes or modify those you have found don't worry so much about percentages just mix knowing a bit about the flavors you are using.
If you've been frustrated in the past, it happens, just try to look at failures as learning points. Every failure can teach us as much as every success if we allow ourselves to look at it in a positive manner.
So, Bills right for the mix and vape group,
I absolutely agree with you on this Slots, I think I tried to communicate that in the course of my ramblings.
Perhaps that point was missed because I was not nearly as lengthy in my making that point. I hope the above rectifies that in some way.
Maurice
Maybe a touch of vanilla... to me, bavarian cream is sweet and yummy, but it doesn't really have any "vanilla" that I can taste anyway. So maybe I'll add either some french vanilla creme or some of the CAP vanilla custard v2. Not sure yet.
