The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

I've added a few TFA recipes to the dropbox for use with the EJuiceMeUp Calculator. You can literally download these to your calculator recipe file and they are ready for use on that calculator. This will save you the time of adding them individually. I think I got the TFA ones, for the most part, culled from my entire recipe book (my flavorings only):

Dropbox - Bill's TFA recipes on EJuiceMeUp Calculator Format.zip

If this doesn't work, let me know. I have this in a zip file and can email to you if there are problems. You will need the eJuiceMeUp calculator to read these files. Ciao!

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

I've also added my Blogs to the Dropbox site. The pdf is attached. Also, the link to the Dropbox is here:

Dropbox - Bill's Blogs.pdf

The link to these blogs on ECF is here:

Bill's Magic Vapor's blog | E-Cigarette Forum

I hope these writings are helpful to the new juice maker. It certainly took me a while to learn this material, after many, many failures. Good luck to you!

 

[VNeil]

Bill's the man! Just downloaded the ejuicemeup files

I just got 4 oz of Dragon Fruit so now I can make Dragon's Blood again. After the mix I was very dissapointed. It didn't have that smooth fruity taste that makes it so special, and what I remember from my my prior batch. I let it breathe overnight and it's been steeping a few days. Just put it in my dripper and that old taste I remember returned. This one needs a couple days to mature. More so than any of the dozens of his recipes I've done.

(ETA: I thought it was almost tasteless ATM. Thought I did something wrong)

Dragon's Blood is just so All Day Vape!

Yesterday I did some chocolates... Chocolate Milkshake, Chocolate Cake and Chocolate custard. it's interesting that those are all the same 5 base flavors with 2 more flavors varied between the recipes (and the percentages). All 3 taste exactly as named, and the milk shake is particularly amazing.

I have enough confidence in his recipes that I do a 10ml sample. I measure with 1ml syringes. I vape 6mg now and I make up an 8.5mg base that works out around 18/82 VG/PG ratio. With the flavoring it gets me to about 50/50, and at 30% flavoring exactly 6mg. That simplifies things. I actually like a stronger VG ratio but it does tend to gunk the tanks. That's my compromise at the moment although my next base may be all VG except for the 50/50 100mg nic base I have on hand.

So for 10ml, I add 7-8ml of 8.5 mg base, depending on the total favoring percentage, and then for each flavor I add 0.1ml of flavor for each percent. I can do that all in my head without a a calculator without thinking too hard.

Today I'm going to try lemon, which I haven't used yet. I have an 8ml sample size vial. If it works I'll get 4oz on my next TPA order. Along with Cherry, which I've somehow forgot to buy twice in a row now . I think I'll do the Lemon Meringue Pie and Lemon Frosted Danish.

It's strange how the flavor pricing makes it hard to buy just an ounce of something I may never need much more of. Another couple bucks for another 3 ounces??????

 

[chanelvaps]

I've added a few TFA recipes to the dropbox for use with the EJuiceMeUp Calculator. You can literally download these to your calculator recipe file and they are ready for use on that calculator. This will save you the time of adding them individually. I think I got the TFA ones, for the most part, culled from my entire recipe book (my flavorings only):

Dropbox - Bill's TFA recipes on EJuiceMeUp Calculator Format.zip

If this doesn't work, let me know. I have this in a zip file and can email to you if there are problems. You will need the eJuiceMeUp calculator to read these files. Ciao!

I am shocked and amazed that I accomplished this. I saved it to the ejuicemeup and "changed to administrator" I actually cannot tell you what all I did as I am not very tech savvy but someone I have it that now I can click on my ejuice calculator and then click FILE and then OPEN select ejuicerecipes and click on a recipe and it automatically puts all info in and calculates?
Hope I can remember this at a later date

 

[chanelvaps]

where are you buying it?

Bill's the man! Just downloaded the ejuicemeup files

I just got 4 oz of Dragon Fruit so now I can make Dragon's Blood again. After the mix I was very dissapointed. It didn't have that smooth fruity taste that makes it so special, and what I remember from my my prior batch. I let it breathe overnight and it's been steeping a few days. Just put it in my dripper and that old taste I remember returned. This one needs a couple days to mature. More so than any of the dozens of his recipes I've done.

(ETA: I thought it was almost tasteless ATM. Thought I did something wrong)

Dragon's Blood is just so All Day Vape!

Yesterday I did some chocolates... Chocolate Milkshake, Chocolate Cake and Chocolate custard. it's interesting that those are all the same 5 base flavors with 2 more flavors varied between the recipes (and the percentages). All 3 taste exactly as named, and the milk shake is particularly amazing.

I have enough confidence in his recipes that I do a 10ml sample. I measure with 1ml syringes. I vape 6mg now and I make up an 8.5mg base that works out around 18/82 VG/PG ratio. With the flavoring it gets me to about 50/50, and at 30% flavoring exactly 6mg. That simplifies things. I actually like a stronger VG ratio but it does tend to gunk the tanks. That's my compromise at the moment although my next base may be all VG except for the 50/50 100mg nic base I have on hand.

So for 10ml, I add 7-8ml of 8.5 mg base, depending on the total favoring percentage, and then for each flavor I add 0.1ml of flavor for each percent. I can do that all in my head without a a calculator without thinking too hard.

Today I'm going to try lemon, which I haven't used yet. I have an 8ml sample size vial. If it works I'll get 4oz on my next TPA order. Along with Cherry, which I've somehow forgot to buy twice in a row now . I think I'll do the Lemon Meringue Pie and Lemon Frosted Danish.

It's strange how the flavor pricing makes it hard to buy just an ounce of something I may never need much more of. Another couple bucks for another 3 ounces??????

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

How does one now search this thread?

 

[Brkdnc]

How does one now search this thread?

In the search box on top right of the page it has a check box for narrowing it to search the current thread you are in.

 

[DingerCPA]

Bill and ITTechy - you guys are AMAZING!!!!! Thank you for your efforts in organizing and uploading all those recipes.

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

Bill and ITTechy - you guys are AMAZING!!!!! Thank you for your efforts in organizing and uploading all those recipes.

You are very welcome. I added five more recipes to the list and added a Chocolate Recipes Zip file with 14 of my favorite choco recipes that have seldom, if ever, been seen on this thread. My problem, I must confess, is that I don't always write down my recipes. I've been mixing for a long time and frequently change my percentages "on the go" as I know how they will interact. Sometimes, I want a little more caramel, the next time more chocolate, yet a third time, sweeter, and sometimes, more peanut butter. Same ingredients most of the time, but a few variations in percentage and two or three different flavors and you can make them all. Anyway, I added five more chocolates to the list. The Wizard loves the choco!

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

Been wanting to make my ADV juice using a cask. For example, this one liter job would be about two months for me:

Amazon.com | 1 Liter Beverage Dispenser: Beer Brewing Starter Sets: Carafes & Pitchers

Surely, others have done this and can pipe in. I'm sure there are many posts on this subject, but I don't know much about it, but it seems like it might work really well. Anyone tried this?

 

[kas122461]

Been wanting to make my ADV juice using a cask. For example, this one liter job would be about two months for me:

Amazon.com | 1 Liter Beverage Dispenser: Beer Brewing Starter Sets: Carafes & Pitchers

Surely, others have done this and can pipe in. I'm sure there are many posts on this subject, but I don't know much about it, but it seems like it might work really well. Anyone tried this?

I had to search for it but I found it, I had read a few threads about this a long time ago, I never tried it my self.

Oak barrel aging? | E-Cigarette Forum

How To: DIY Oak Barrel Reserve | E-Cigarette Forum

I hope this helps

KAS

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

I had to search for it but I found it, I had read a few threads about this a long time ago, I never tried it my self.

Oak barrel aging? | E-Cigarette Forum

How To: DIY Oak Barrel Reserve | E-Cigarette Forum

I hope this helps

KAS

Thanks Kas. Very helpful. May or may not work okay with the more delicate dessert juices I prefer. Seems like it's a no-brainer for tobacco's, though. I may still try it. Probably all in at about $50, or so. I may pull the trigger. If I do, I'll let ya'll know about it! Good luck! Ciao!

 

[clnire]

In the search box on top right of the page it has a check box for narrowing it to search the current thread you are in.

OK, maybe I am blind. I don't see a search box on the top right of the page. Top right is my name, Inbox and Alerts. The only search I see is "Search Forums" and I don't see options there for threads. Don't mean for this to turn into a tutorial, but I just figure I am doing something wrong....

And thank you Bill and IT for all the recipes and info!!

 

[kas122461]

OK, maybe I am blind. I don't see a search box on the top right of the page. Top right is my name, Inbox and Alerts. The only search I see is "Search Forums" and I don't see options there for threads. Don't mean for this to turn into a tutorial, but I just figure I am doing something wrong....

I just used it an hour or so, you use the main search box, after you start it, click more. Then you can select where to search, that is what I did anyway.

KAS

 

[clnire]

AH HA!!!! Thank you! It has changed since I last tried to search. Thank you, thank you, thank you!1

 

[DingerCPA]

clnire, click on the "spy-glass" in the search box (right above your ID). That opens another screen. Then, like KAS says, click on "more". I think that will get you what you are seeking

ETA - I'm slow....

 

[clnire]

thank you Dinger! the word search is so faint I did not even see that!! so both you and kas are correct, and so was I - user error!!!!!! Thank you both!!!

 

[b.m.]

Thanks Kas. Very helpful. May or may not work okay with the more delicate dessert juices I prefer. Seems like it's a no-brainer for tobacco's, though. I may still try it. Probably all in at about $50, or so. I may pull the trigger. If I do, I'll let ya'll know about it! Good luck! Ciao!

Not sure if all flavors would work with it,but I remember someone doing a vanilla custard in a cask that they said came out really well.I had thought about trying this a long while back when I first seen posts about it,but at the time that 1 liter cask was selling for $89 then you also had to get the stuff that sanitizes and swells the wood that was another $25-$30 so it would have been over $100 just to experiment,but at the price you found it for,it may be worth the chance,plus I've been doing alot of tobacco juices here lately that would definitely benefit from it.

 

[VNeil]

where are you buying it?

I got my 4 oz flavors from Heartland and then TPA directly on the last order.

 

[VNeil]

A question for Bill....

I'm curious what benefits you see to using the reagent bottles you mentioned a few pages ago as the best way to store juice. I use various size boston round amber bottles with polycone caps that I get for around $1 each, plus about 20% shipping expense depending. The 4 oz reagent bottles you suggest are clear, and around $4 each (shipped free if you have Amazon prime like me, or whatever minimum Amazon needs now for free shipping etc). So they are relatively expensive bottles. The only benefit I see for us is maybe the slightly wider mouth for faster breathing. But if I wanted more open surface area for breathing I would breathe the liquid in a beaker and then put it in a cheap boston round. You always have good reasons for things so thought I'd ask.

In a related question, in usually 50ml, or 125ml boston round bottles, or 15ml plastic bottles, I usually leave my new mixes open overnight in a closed cabinet to breath. So usually 8-18 hours or so depending on when I mix and when I get around to to things in the morning. Never more than 24 hours. I started with a 2 hour breath but increased it for no particular reason other than more is probably better and can't hurt unless I went days and then oxidation might become an issue. So I'm just curious how long other people (not just Bill) breathe new juice and why.

ETA: one benefit I just thought of is that I use a 10ml syringe to load 15ml plastic bottles for dripping. A wider mouth jar would let me get the needle down inside, eliminating the need to do that delicate tilt dance I need to do with a narrow mouth boston round... i often use a 30ml syringe to measure my premixed unflavored base to my final juice mixes and those reagent bottles would probably take that size syringe too. So that might be nice for my standard unflavored base bottle but I would definitely want mabner for that one.