One tip for those looking to get into mixing by weight though,make sure whatever scale you get will measure to .01 grams so any small % will read on the scale.I bought one a while back,it's a jewelers scale,so i thought it would read the small stuff,but mine only goes to .1 grams,so i need to get a different one.
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Same here; I do well enough using percentages in my calculator, which then figures them all up and translates them to ml for me. I see no reason to buy YET ANOTHER piece of equipment to do something that I'm already doing well with.
Andria
PS: BTW, I got my CAP Sweet Strawberry today as I assumed I would; later I can try some of that in my strawbery & cream recipe, see how it compares to the INW Shisha.
Just switched from volume to weight. You are correct need scale with 0.00 or hundredths of a gram. I switched due to being more consistent with recipes. I have already determined that syringes are not as consistent. Ounce you get the hang of it it is much faster, cleaner and each batch is the same. I also am an old guy and those little lines on syringes are not as easy to read as a backlit LED display, just sayin.
My problem is that i really don#t trust the calibration in my syringes and beakers - they just don't seem to agree. Granted what I have is not expensive lab stuff but still you'd expect there to be some consistency. And my mixtures always end up in a beaker anyway since that is the method I use for stirring. Plus, like I said before I am having a lot of hassle transferring the VG. I've ordered these scales which really don't cost the earth and they do measure to 0.01grm. That was the first thing I looked for.
I believe the auto shut off on this one is a minute and a half which is pretty long and naturally it only kicks in from the moment it becomes idle, I'm used to that since my kitchen scales behave the same way. If you've got all your ingredients at hand it isn't really a problem.
Can you all suggest some scales that you like? I think I might try going the weigh route, I get tired of constantly cleaning syringes multiple times when mixing.
There is one on ebay that alot of people on here are using for diy,and it's only $8.46 and .49 cents shipping.
Electronic Pocket Digital Scale 0 01g 300g Weight Precision Jewelry Scale US | eBay
Papillon, 90 seconds should be enough. Mine times out in 90 seconds, and the only time I have it go off is when I get sidetracked on something else, like the phone rings or something. Sometimes I'll start it up, realize I don't have something, and it will go off, but I am not in the middle of adding something, so when it starts back up it automatically tares. While adding ingredients, there's no way I have longer than 90 seconds of no activity. In between ingredients (nic, VG, PG, flavors, whatever), it does not matter if the screen goes off. It takes a couple of seconds for it to restart and zero out.
600 gram x 0.01 .01 gram High Resolution Digital Balance Scale Laboratory Analytical Bench Grain Carat Gun Powder Gold Jewelry Ammo Reload https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0084OYXCK/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_EdGHvb5C2GK6Z
I have a question and it may be a really stupid question but I need some help. I have two recipes that I really like but I found that one at a larger volume mixed with the other at a smaller volume is even better. So what I did was I wanted a 60ml bottle of juice so I took one recipe and made it in a 20ml and then the other recipe I made it in a 40ml as that seemed to be the sweet spot for the end result I was looking. I put them together in a 60ml bottle. I can't for the life of me figure out the math to make a single recipe based off that. I first thought I would just add the percentage of one to the percentage of the other but it threw the VG/PG ratio on paper way off. Both of these are just at ~ 80vg/20pg so combing them as seeprate recipes should be the same, or so I thought.....yes I am mathematically challenged as well as technically challenged....lol. Here are the two recipes I combined. One is bills lion that I tweaked a tad and the other is a vanilla custard recipe. The new one I call vanilla nut custard....lol. It is a very good vape for those that like vanilla custards. I am sure the answer is a very simple one but my brain is trying to make it complicated. Thanks in advanced for catering to my worn brain cells...
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Ingredient Total ml Total %
Nic 1.8 3.00%
VG 47.2 78.67%
Apple Pie 0.8 1.33%
Catalan Cream 0.4 0.67%
French Vanilla Deluxe 1.8 3.00%
Graham Cracker Clear 0.8 1.33%
Vanilla Cupcake 1.6 2.67%
Vanilla Custard 1.8 3.00%
Vanilla Swirl 0.8 1.33%
Acetyl Prazine 0.2 0.33%
Bavarian Cream 0.6 1.00%
Butterscotch 1.6 2.67%
Cotton Candy 0.6 1.00%
Total 60 100.00%
It doesn't space right on the forum, but you don't add percentages. You add ml together, then you divide the total of each ingredient in ml by 60 ml to get the percentage.
Nic 1.8 3.00%
VG 47.2 78.67%
Apple Pie 0.8 1.33%
Catalan Cream 0.4 0.67%
French Vanilla Deluxe 1.8 3.00%
Graham Cracker Clear 0.8 1.33%
Vanilla Cupcake 1.6 2.67%
Vanilla Custard 1.8 3.00%
Vanilla Swirl 0.8 1.33%
Acetyl Prazine 0.2 0.33%
Bavarian Cream 0.6 1.00%
Butterscotch 1.6 2.67%
Cotton Candy 0.6 1.00%
Total 60 100.00%
It doesn't space right on the forum, but you don't add percentages. You add ml together, then you divide the total of each ingredient in ml by 60 ml to get the percentage.
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P.S. Is one of your flavors VG-based? Because it is slightly under 80% VG if nic and flavors are all PG based. If not, and you probably wouldn't notice the difference of 1.33%, but that 21.33% PG can't be lowered unless you take something PG based out.
One other note about weight-based mixing: you might be thinking that we are basing the percentages on the weight. That is not so, at least I am not. You base the % on volume, which gives you a certain volume for each ingredient. For example, I have a 70/30 VG/PG mix on my calculator right now. My VG volume is 21 ml, just like if I were doing it by volume. But I know that 21 ml of VG weighs 26.229 grams. Instead of measuring out 21 ml, we weigh out 26.229 grams. So your recipes do not change one bit, you are simply using one way to measure instead of another.
And someone asked if he wants to know how many mls of something to add, how will he know if we are doing it by weight. You shouldn't really be sharing recipes by volume (ml), but by percentages. That way it makes no difference how someone mixes. The results are the same. Stick it in a calculator and voila! You have both volume and weight of each.
Like many of you, I am using the Juice Calculator, found on this forum:
New Calculator to try | E-Cigarette Forum
And someone asked if he wants to know how many mls of something to add, how will he know if we are doing it by weight. You shouldn't really be sharing recipes by volume (ml), but by percentages. That way it makes no difference how someone mixes. The results are the same. Stick it in a calculator and voila! You have both volume and weight of each.
Like many of you, I am using the Juice Calculator, found on this forum:
New Calculator to try | E-Cigarette Forum
THANK YOU!!!!!!!! I am SO SICK of seeing recipes with the quantities given in ml! That is so asinine! How the heck am I know to know the percentage of any given thing, when the stupid recipe only gives ml's?
Andria
Thank you!!!! I will try to remember that next time. I am ashamed to say , I tried to figure it out for over an hour and finally gave up. Figured I would mix them separately each time if I had to.
.No all PG I believe, that sounds right though, I think one was just under 80vg and the other right at 80. I am sensitive to PG so I try to keep it as much above 70 as I can. I can't thank you enough!
I just entered this into my juice calculator and I get 85vg/15pg. Not sure why it is off from what you figured. Could it be based on my nicotine being VG based?
****Edited to say nevermind.... I left out vanilla custard and looks like they round off....that would be the difference.
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Does that calculator work on iPhone? I tried downloading the portable setup but couldn't figure out how to load it.
I don't mix by weight or use calculators , i never even followed someone else's recipe , i just count drops from the flavoring bottles, even if they aren't the exact same i found it close enough. I just add drops of different flavorings which i think will go together and shake like hell , never had any problems .
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