The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread
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No, I too thought it was on the high side. I think she goes that high so no steeping is required. Usually the creams and vanilla do require steeping time to develop fully.
You may want to start lower% and up according to your taste. ie...maybe start at 50% lower ?
Thanks! I think I'll cut the strawberry in half and go from there.
Awesome. I'm going to start at 8% strawberry and then work my way up.
100mg/mL is not scary stuff UNLESS you treat it carelessly. Mix smart. Mix safe. And you have nothing to be scared of.
I mean NO disrespect to you @englishmick, or your method, or your reasons. They are certainly reasonable and understandable, and most importantly, they work for you. I only want any readers of this thread that might be new to DIY, or considering trying their hand at DIY, to understand that there is a difference between being scared of high strength nicotine and treating ALL nicotine with the respect it deserves. The real danger is when we get careless or complacent.
I agree.
When I first toyed with DIY I was dead scared of 100mg. Heck, check my avatar picture. That sticker is about 8"x8" plastered on the side of my 1L bottle. Kinda unnerving if you are new to DIY.
I have gotten a drop on my hands did not experience any ill effects that I expected. It burned slightly and reminded me of a 24mg nic patch. I did stop what I was doing and washed my hands immediately. I wouldn't bathe in it lol, but if you do happen to get a little on your hands it is a good idea to wash it off quickly before it gets absorbed into your skin (worst case you'll get a nic buzz).
Now when I mix the nic is first in the bottles; 0.9mL in my 15mL batches. Once complete I cap my small 120mL "ready use" bottle and go rinse the syringe under a faucet. Then all of the "scary" stuff is done with and I add DW, flavors, and top off with VG.
When I first toyed with DIY I was dead scared of 100mg. Heck, check my avatar picture. That sticker is about 8"x8" plastered on the side of my 1L bottle. Kinda unnerving if you are new to DIY.
I have gotten a drop on my hands did not experience any ill effects that I expected. It burned slightly and reminded me of a 24mg nic patch. I did stop what I was doing and washed my hands immediately. I wouldn't bathe in it lol, but if you do happen to get a little on your hands it is a good idea to wash it off quickly before it gets absorbed into your skin (worst case you'll get a nic buzz).
Now when I mix the nic is first in the bottles; 0.9mL in my 15mL batches. Once complete I cap my small 120mL "ready use" bottle and go rinse the syringe under a faucet. Then all of the "scary" stuff is done with and I add DW, flavors, and top off with VG.
I recently made a Strawberry juice from a recipe that a vendor posted last week on reddit since he closed shop for good.
All it contained was Capella Sweet Strawberry at 15% , that was it.
I always used much less like around 6- 10 % and i often mixed different Strawberry types together , well i went 15% of that one flavor just to see if i liked it .
I can't stop vaping the stuff , it is one of the most flavorful Strawberry vapes i ever had.
Reminds me of Blue Dot vapor's Moo Fields , i actually can't tell them apart lol.
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but since it has been mentioned repeatedly in this thread I'm going to ask anyway. I have been hesitant to try the Inawera Shisha Strawberry. I have never "hookah-ed," and so in my ignorance, have had the opinion that the shishas are highly floral and/or perfumy.
But I keep seeing, over and over again, the praises for AndriaD's Strawberries and Cream recipe. Would any of you who have used IW's Shisha Strawberry describe your perception of it? (I realize my taste buds may not taste it the way your do.) Can you say how it differs from other strawberries like TFA's Strawberry, Strawberry Ripe, or IW Strawberry?
I know I just need to grow a pair and order a small bottle but I really don't do well with "perfumy."
Thanks in advance...
but since it has been mentioned repeatedly in this thread I'm going to ask anyway. I have been hesitant to try the Inawera Shisha Strawberry. I have never "hookah-ed," and so in my ignorance, have had the opinion that the shishas are highly floral and/or perfumy. But I keep seeing, over and over again, the praises for AndriaD's Strawberries and Cream recipe. Would any of you who have used IW's Shisha Strawberry describe your perception of it? (I realize my taste buds may not taste it the way your do.) Can you say how it differs from other strawberries like TFA's Strawberry, Strawberry Ripe, or IW Strawberry?
I know I just need to grow a pair and order a small bottle but I really don't do well with "perfumy."
Thanks in advance...
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But I keep seeing, over and over again, the praises for AndriaD's Strawberries and Cream recipe. Would any of you who have used IW's Shisha Strawberry describe your perception of it? (I realize my taste buds may not taste it the way your do.) Can you say how it differs from other strawberries like TFA's Strawberry, Strawberry Ripe, or IW Strawberry?
I know I just need to grow a pair and order a small bottle but I really don't do well with "perfumy."
Thanks in advance...
I haven't tried it yet. I was going to sub ripe strawberry and cap sweet strawberry. I like the two of those together.
I have nic base in PG and VG, and find myself preferring the PG base. Thinner, easier to work with in small amounts. Pipettes/syringes don't work all that well with straight VG, since it's thick like syrup.
VG nic base works just fine, though. I dilute the nic base to 30mg/ml in 4 or 5 30ml bottles, and mix juice from those. The big bottle of 100mg nic lives in the freezer and only comes out every other month or so when I need to mix more 30mg base.
I think it's helpful to dilute the 100mg to a level that's a little easier to work with, especially if making small batches - in a 15ml batch, just a minor measuring inaccuracy can change the nic level significantly when using 100mg nic base.
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Isn't the Shisha line of IW more concentrated than their other flavors? I don't have any of the Shisha line but do have some IW Strawberry(have yet to use tho) and just went to smell it. Imagine being at the grocery, go up to the strawberrys and smell their fresh flavor......that is what it reminded me of. Now I gotta go mix some......well, maybe tomorrow....It's
But I keep seeing, over and over again, the praises for AndriaD's Strawberries and Cream recipe. Would any of you who have used IW's Shisha Strawberry describe your perception of it? (I realize my taste buds may not taste it the way your do.) Can you say how it differs from other strawberries like TFA's Strawberry, Strawberry Ripe, or IW Strawberry?
I know I just need to grow a pair and order a small bottle but I really don't do well with "perfumy."
Thanks in advance...
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But I keep seeing, over and over again, the praises for AndriaD's Strawberries and Cream recipe. Would any of you who have used IW's Shisha Strawberry describe your perception of it? (I realize my taste buds may not taste it the way your do.) Can you say how it differs from other strawberries like TFA's Strawberry, Strawberry Ripe, or IW Strawberry?
I know I just need to grow a pair and order a small bottle but I really don't do well with "perfumy."
Thanks in advance...
I have most all Strawberry's and Inawera Shisha is very tasty , it has a little more "candylike" sweetness to it imo.
It's closer to Capella's sweet Strawberry and TFA's regular Strawberry than TFA's Ripe or FA Red Touch Strawberry .
I have always mixed Shisha at low percentages but after mixing Capella's Sweet Strawberry at 15% i might try Shisha at a higher percentage as well because i can't get what i'm looking for at the lower percentages.
It's a great Strawberry though no doubt. VBIC works well with the Strawberry flavors , one of reddit's favorites is just TFA's Strawberry at 8% and VBIC at 6% .
I believe it's called Fizzmustard's Mustard Milk.
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Isn't the Shisha line of IW more concentrated than their other flavors? I don't have any of the Shisha line but do have some IW Strawberry(have yet to use tho) and just went to smell it. Imagine being at the grocery, go up to the strawberrys and smell their fresh flavor......that is what it reminded me of. Now I gotta go mix some......well, maybe tomorrow....
Inawera Strawberry concentrate is probably what your talking about , i like that as well . I am not sure if Shisha versions are stronger or not , they do not seem like it to me , just a different profile .
I'm one of those persons that depending on concentrate cannot taste Strawberry. Nope to ripe Strawberry, or Strawberries and Cream (both TFA), but my oh my, straight Strawberry (TFA) and Inawera's Shish Strawberry I can taste. To me they are used at the same %'s, and it's as if they've both been picked and eaten right there in the farmer's field. Both are very realistic and fruity to me.
The shisha strawberry is very pronounced and powers through the underlying creams. Sometimes I have had a strawberry and cream concoction where the sweet cream and bav cream take over and totally muddle the strawberry.
The shisha strawberry reminds me exactly like the hookah stuff I used while over in Bahrain or UAE.
To me CAP sweet strawberry and shisha are very close in flavor... So much that I may go on a limb and say that they may % cross over from recipe to recipe.
I agree with the other posts where the shisha is a touch more candy whereas the CAP is a little more "real".
The shisha strawberry reminds me exactly like the hookah stuff I used while over in Bahrain or UAE.
To me CAP sweet strawberry and shisha are very close in flavor... So much that I may go on a limb and say that they may % cross over from recipe to recipe.
I agree with the other posts where the shisha is a touch more candy whereas the CAP is a little more "real".
Really good stuff! Thank you one and all!! 
I have added both the IW Shisha Strawberry and the Cap Sweet Strawberry to my next shopping list.
I have added both the IW Shisha Strawberry and the Cap Sweet Strawberry to my next shopping list.
Just a note on Cap's sweet strawberry. One of the first flavors I purchased was this. I went to smell it and nearly gagged. And I swore I would never use it. But eventually I went ahead and made a small bottle anyway just to prove it was as horrible as it smelled. Was I totally wrong.....the flavoring must have just been made fresh when sent to me(no time to meld ingredients) and it took a week or so to steep. Best strawberry to date.Really good stuff! Thank you one and all!!
Thanks. I appreciate the tip.
I have had more than one bad experience trying to smell straight flavoring to get an idea of taste. At best it doesn't give me a true idea of its taste; and at worst it was so bad it curled my ear hairs. And NOBODY wants to see a middle-aged man with curly ear hairs!
So, needless to say, I've stopped smelling my flavors. Instead I use @Bill's Magic Vapor "Flavor Chart" to do a small (2-3ish mL) drop test, single flavor tasting, to get an idea of its flavor profile and a starting percentage that works for me. It's fast and uses only a small amount of product. I add a note attached to the ingredient (in my juice calculator) and I am good to go.
At least until my taste buds change...
Thanks. I appreciate the tip.
I have had more than one bad experience trying to smell straight flavoring to get an idea of taste. At best it doesn't give me a true idea of its taste; and at worst it was so bad it curled my ear hairs. And NOBODY wants to see a middle-aged man with curly ear hairs!
So, needless to say, I've stopped smelling my flavors. Instead I use @Bill's Magic Vapor "Flavor Chart" to do a small (2-3ish mL) drop test, single flavor tasting, to get an idea of its flavor profile and a starting percentage that works for me. It's fast and uses only a small amount of product. I add a note attached to the ingredient (in my juice calculator) and I am good to go.
At least until my taste buds change...
I get the PG drops to add and the flavor percentages to add but, what's the "subtract 3 vape?
It's probably something simple but I'm in a "fried brain" condition, at the moment.
I think it is to further reduce the %. At least that is what I got out it. Joel also did another one for his interpretation. I'll let him 'splain it. lolI get the PG drops to add and the flavor percentages to add but, what's the "subtract 3 vape?
No worries!I get the PG drops to add and the flavor percentages to add but, what's the "subtract 3 vape?
That is subtract 3 drops (the amount you would put on a dripper to taste) of the total volume once you have given the current combination a quick stir. The "formula" tries to account for both liquid being added as well as being subtracted (by taste vaping).
This is a pretty good/fast method to get you an idea of taste and a ballpark idea of what percent is going to work for you. It is "down and dirty" meaning no nic and no pg so things will change a bit when you start mixing to your normal ratios. But I have found it to be quite helpful.
Confession time: I also vape "unflavored" e-juice (mixed at my usual 30P/70V 9mg/mL blend that I use for the majority of my recipes) so I have started using that in place of the PG drops and it gets me pretty spot on. But the whole purpose of this tool is to be simple, and fast, and reasonably accurate. So I don't suggest people go to the extra effort of making an unflavored blend; it starts to defeat the intent. But... if ya got it... ?
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