The future of e-smoking.

[vaporbird]

I've been learning so much lately and that has got me thinking about what the future will be like. Right now the most "advanced" PV have focused their technology on regulating the way that the battery interacts with the atomizer. There have also been some new ideas in atomizers like dual coils etc... but really when you think about the methods used to get liquid to the coil they are all very primitive and imprecise.

Might a future "advanced" e-cig employ some kind of electronic delivery system? Instead of having a damp set of fibers resting next to the coil what about some method that delivers as few drops as needed, like dripping, but automated? Maybe some of the creative mods are already working on something like this. If e-cigs will ever go-main stream it needs to be no more complex than that.

My wild guesses predictions:

In five years

• e-cigs will be fairly well known, and their success in helping people quit will make them a promising option.
• At least one US state will attempt to ban or regulate, this will fail due to public outcry.
• Something that's not a cartomizer or an atomizer or a "tank"will be on the general consumer market, it will deliver the liquid in a new way.
• Market share will grow, but it will still be a fringe "hobby" activity.
• e-cigs will be used to deliver caffeine.

In 20 years

• many e-smokers will have never tried regular cigarets, they will smoke 0mg flavored liquid
• atomizing hookah bar will be found in a few locations
• it will be simple enough that it need not be a hobby.

Think of how much has changed in the past 5 years.

What are your predictions for the next five?

The next 20?

 

[washvap]

It's crazy how technology has developed in 4 going onto 5 years. I started in 2008 (did go back to smoking until 2010) when they only had 3 piece e-cigs and now, there's big batts, bottom/top/gravity feeders, VV mods, HV regulated mods, etc. etc. etc. So, it WILL be exciting to see what happens even in the next few years to come.

Really hoping that an auto-fed, regulated VV, aircraft aluminum bottom feeder is eventually created.

 

[PONKAW]

In 5 years either Big tobacco will have basically destroyed the ecig market as we know it... Or
They will have embraced it and add a 1000 chemicals and regulations to control the entire market.

If you don't think winston-salem is in the lab right now working on a master plan your head is buried.

This is the golden age of vaping. Why is it taking so long for long term ecig test to appear?
I contend, because it actually works, and certain entities are getting their stories (lawyers) straight.

Great question!

D.

 

[Eddie.Willers]

I too take the view of the pessimist over the future of vaping.

Right now, the industry seems to be market driven from the bottom up. Chinese manufacturers are responding to the appearance of 'boutique' PV's by bringing out lower-cost, mass market versions (think Provari v. LavaTube) - as well as working with wholesaler demands - and the lack of regulation keeps entry-costs low for liquid vendor start-ups and re-sellers.

I expect to see pressure on two fronts:
Politically, there will be calls for quality regulation - most likely from BT to 'level the playing field' - and this will, inevitably, lead to the taxation of nicotine containing liquids. Costs will rise, regulatory burden will increase and the market will come to be dominated by a handful of major players as entry costs rise.

BT will enter the market, once it reaches criticality, and will play on their 'expertise' as a reason for trusting them and their products over the 'unknowns' of the 'cowboy' Chinese and mom-n-pop suppliers.

As Ponkaw said, this is vaping's golden age right now - don't expect it to last.

 

[orachel]

Ummm.... Ok, I live in Mesa, AZ, and there are Hookah bars using eliquids on every corner! rofl Exaggerating, slightly.. but not much! I've passed at least 30 of the suckers. I used to drive past and wonder what the heck they were smoking in there, because they always had these wild fruit flavors listed on the windows. Then I discovered vaping... it all came clear. I still have yet to get into one, but they're ALL OVER the place, especially when I lived right by Arizona State U. So that one is a reality NOW, not 20 years from now, at least for some of us.

Very cool post, btw!

 

[Alac]

in 5 years

- Someone will discover that PG is used in anti-freeze and claim it cant be good despite all other evedence.
- Governments will have Nic taxed heavaly to make up for people quiting smokeing.

in 20
- Someone will discover that PG is used in anti-freeze and claim it cant be good despite all other evedence.
- Reseerchers look at the original Ryuan design pizzio-electric ultrasonic method of turning juice into vapor. This idea is scraped as lawsuits are filed to determin who is leagally the patant holder.
- A sciantist working for big pharma works with plant extracts similiar to niccoten, descovers one that that affects the Dopamine receptors like nic, but does not trigger the addiction. It is found to also be effective for treating withdrawal symptoms of other substances. The e-cig is found to be a viable, low cost delivery device. All reserch in this is destroyed by the phamasudical company, as curring adiction would destroy thier bottom line.

 

[pianoguy]

In 5 years, my REO's will still be working.

In 20 years, my REO's will still be working.

;-)

 

[Dieseler]

I think future innovations will be in the electronics.
Batteries will be better and smaller .
E-liquid perhaps delivered in a super fine mist maybe like fuel injectors instead of the old carb. ?

 

[cookiebun]

In 5 years either Big tobacco will have basically destroyed the ecig market as we know it... Or
They will have embraced it and add a 1000 chemicals and regulations to control the entire market.

If you don't think winston-salem is in the lab right now working on a master plan your head is buried.

This is the golden age of vaping. Why is it taking so long for long term ecig test to appear?
I contend, because it actually works, and certain entities are getting their stories (lawyers) straight.

Great question!

D.

Your BT scenario will only happen if BP doesn't manage to kill PVs first.

 

[PsychOfMSE]

Caffeine in my E-Juice??? I'm sooooo down.

Coffee flavored e-juice with med nicotine and high caffeine = win.

 

[TUC]

Big tobacco companies WILL eventually enter this market place...and dominate it. How could they not? Just in the last two years personal vaping mods have exploded, along with everything else that pertains to electronic cigarettes.

 

[Marb]

I hate to be a pessimist, but I agree with BT getting involved to the point of trying to kill vaping and/or monopolize it. I foresee all these ma-n-pop internet supplier companies going out of business because they don't have millions to spend on attorneys to get everything "in-order" as the government sees fit ("fit" being the standards BT has so conveniently provided through biased studies).

I also see BT trying to find a way stigmatize vaping as more harmful in some strange way if they can't find a way to muscle in on the market share.

It WILL happen. Maybe not exactly as I, or anyone else in this thread has mentioned, but it will happen in some way. Anyone else remember trying to quit and thinking that PAYING MORE to NOT smoke was an ok option? Think patches and gum... that stuff killed my bank account and I still went back to smoking... Which is why they're still an "option" (IMHO) - because they don't work. BT keeps a customer and keeps making money. And BT is keeping track. If they're smart, they'll get in on the production of nic-fluids and sell them cheaply under a different name. Maybe they have already? IDK, and I don't care, really. As long as my feigning doesn't get in the way of my family's overall happiness, then I'm ok. My main goals with my PV are HEALTH and COST. Check. I'm doing ok right now... Which is akin to telling VISA "I just paid off the balance, can I cut up the card yet?"

 

[Old Chemist]

This is the golden age of vaping. Why is it taking so long for long term ecig test to appear?

Well - you have answered this question already. Long term tests are long, so they need plenty of time to complete them. Analogs were tested for some decades before the final results were obtained. And believe me - in that case it's easier to publish negative results than positive ones.
It's very important that many tests are already underway - both in the US and Europe as well as New Zealand. As for now all of them gave positive results for the e-cig community. So let's hope there will be plenty of results coming in the near future.

 

[SnakeFarm]

1 Year: The Tralfamadorians will contact us and take pity on us for only being able to vape in three dimensions. We will learn that they have always vaped, and that they use a ProVari with a carto-tank, but since they are telekinopsychic, they only have one; one Tralfamadorian (The Vaper), vapes eternally, and all of them are free to enjoy it in perpetuity. They will adopt earthlings into their collective and we will be able to enjoy the beneficial effects of vapeing without having to actually do it.

18 Months: Someone will discover that PG is used in anti-freeze and claim it can't be good despite all other evedence. All the armies of Earth will unite to destroy Tralfamadore, which the Tralfamadorians, being 4 deminsional, knew would happen. The Tralfamadorians will initate a preemptive strike which will scour the Earth and leave it looking exactly like the Moon; only larger; with more rocks. This will surprise no one.

4 Years: Tra la la.

 

[pyro13g]

PG is used in many things that go on and in our bodies and it will never see any harm just because it's in antifreeze.

5 year prediction, It will be just as expensive as analogs. Worst case, illegal.

 

[Big Screen D]

Worst case scenario is the worst case scenarios posted above come true and my Armageddon supply of 100mg nic juice in the freezer degrades before I can start a tobacco crop for extraction. Screw em.

 

[tommy2bad]

BT getting in on the act mightn't be the worst thing, their business model is low cost high volume.
Big Pharma on the other hand like high costs. Either way long term vaping will have to bear the tax cost from shrinking smoking revenue.
I think the PV itself will always be the weak link in the BT or BP end of the market. It's so easy to mod one yourself. If BT do embrace vaping expect to see disposable ecigs at disposable lighter prices, cartos at cig prices and juice at loose tobacco prices.

 

[pmoraldo]

It's crazy how technology has developed in 4 going onto 5 years. I started in 2008 (did go back to smoking until 2010) when they only had 3 piece e-cigs and now, there's big batts, bottom/top/gravity feeders, VV mods, HV regulated mods, etc. etc. etc. So, it WILL be exciting to see what happens even in the next few years to come.

Really hoping that an auto-fed, regulated VV, aircraft aluminum bottom feeder is eventually created.

I wonder if Rob is listening?

 

[Old Chemist]

[*]e-cigs will be used to deliver caffeine.

Well - first you will have to make some revolution in Physics. Caffeine is solid, so it cannot be used that way.
Mr Raoult says - no, no...

 

[DoctorRiboh]

this thread is awesome!!
I really hope there's a brighter future for vaping because it works.

unfortunately, for those who have watched 'The Insider' we are currently looking at David and Goliath, the latter being BT

I hope that by the time we go to war with BT we'll have enough 510 soldiers out there to make an impact.

Or even by that time we won't even need nicotine.
To be honest, if I could get a 0 nicotine liquid that gave me a throat hit of an 18 mg I'd be on it right away.