Also, this is the perfect place to ask this, I think. Has anyone noticed changes in their cardio capability or breathing capacity since starting vaping? I'm almost 6-months quit and I have yet to notice any increase in breath or breath control.
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I have. I can't tell you when it started to get easier for me. I just know that two years ago, I could not have done 4 miles on the elliptical at the speed I am generating. I remember using the treadmill seven years ago and never could do a jog for any redeeming length of time (PAD Smoker). The best I managed was a fast walk.
On the elliptical, I can do 6.0 rpm which is about 7.5 miles per hour. I can hold that pace no problem for 4 miles. Now adding resistance? Not so much but I can do 1/2 - 1 mile with resistance of about 2-4 at that speed.
I'm at over 2 years vaping exclusively. To be honest, this is the first time I have worked out since. I have noticed that I DID have to work up to the length of time and the speed. We have only had the elliptical since the end of November? I think that is when we got it. It didn't take that long at all to acclimate and for the breathing to get easier.
The elliptical is probably easier on me than running would be. My heart rate does get up there though LOL.
Hey Cavenerd, welcome! I run also, but not as much as you do. I run about 15 miles a week, walk 5. I started running during a 1 year smoking 'quit'. Then smoked and ran for 11-12 months. I could definitely tell a difference in my ability (less) during that time. I'm coming up on my 2 year vapeversary, and still feel a bit short in breathing capacity when I push myself.. meaning my legs don't give out, I just can't get enough air.
Our friend Lion had his breathing capacity checked at his Dr both before and after taking up vaping with excellent results. Maybe he'll pop in soon.
Our friend Lion had his breathing capacity checked at his Dr both before and after taking up vaping with excellent results. Maybe he'll pop in soon.
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Welcome Cavenerd! Running that many miles...sounds like you are nutty enough to fit right in...
And congrats on the uber weight loss!!! That's a HUGE accomplishment.
And congrats on the uber weight loss!!! That's a HUGE accomplishment.Thanks for the welcome. I've put on about 15-20 lbs since getting to the Bahamas but I can still see my feet pretty easily and it was REALLY hard adjusting to the oppressive heat.
It's never about how much you run. It's about running enough to be satisfied. I dated a hardcore marathoner and I would never be able to keep up with her workouts. I may have been putting down more miles but she had me in intensity every time. the most important part of anything is seeing some healthy results from whatever it is that you're doing.
I run a lot because some days I just want to eat an entire cake.
And don't sell the ol' elliptical short. There are some tough workouts on there. I'm active duty Navy and part of our semi-annual physical assessment is a cardio portion, which we can choose to perform on the stationary bike, the elliptical or on the road with our feet. Running-I can max out my score. Biking-I can almost max out my score. Elliptical-I can pass.
The elliptical is a cruel mistress! When I do chariot (what I call elliptical) workouts I like to do what I call alternating increasing sprints. Low resistance/rpm for 60/90 sec, high resistance for 30/45 sec. I go up 2 levels for the sprint and back one for the recovery. Don't know if it has a real name but 45 minutes of this is draining and my legs and shoulder get a great workout and I built some good speed and power.
Start at level 7 resistance for warm-up,
go up to lvl 9 for the sprint, come back to lvl 8 for the recovery,
go up to lvl 10 for the sprint, come back to lvl 9 for the recovery
etc... once I top out the machine I do three minutes at my warm-up level and then start again. Also every other cycle I increase the elevation if available.
Now if I could just stop eating cakes.
I'll be up at 0600 to run. Maybe I'll see you guys at the gym.
It's never about how much you run. It's about running enough to be satisfied. I dated a hardcore marathoner and I would never be able to keep up with her workouts. I may have been putting down more miles but she had me in intensity every time. the most important part of anything is seeing some healthy results from whatever it is that you're doing.
I run a lot because some days I just want to eat an entire cake.
And don't sell the ol' elliptical short. There are some tough workouts on there. I'm active duty Navy and part of our semi-annual physical assessment is a cardio portion, which we can choose to perform on the stationary bike, the elliptical or on the road with our feet. Running-I can max out my score. Biking-I can almost max out my score. Elliptical-I can pass.
The elliptical is a cruel mistress! When I do chariot (what I call elliptical) workouts I like to do what I call alternating increasing sprints. Low resistance/rpm for 60/90 sec, high resistance for 30/45 sec. I go up 2 levels for the sprint and back one for the recovery. Don't know if it has a real name but 45 minutes of this is draining and my legs and shoulder get a great workout and I built some good speed and power.
Start at level 7 resistance for warm-up,
go up to lvl 9 for the sprint, come back to lvl 8 for the recovery,
go up to lvl 10 for the sprint, come back to lvl 9 for the recovery
etc... once I top out the machine I do three minutes at my warm-up level and then start again. Also every other cycle I increase the elevation if available.
Now if I could just stop eating cakes.
I'll be up at 0600 to run. Maybe I'll see you guys at the gym.
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Question for Cavenerd...what kind of shoes do you like to wear for running? Go Navy (Navy brat here......Dad was in for 22 years and retired as Master Chief)...
One more question...at what mileage do you experience runner's high?
...Dad was in for 22 years and retired as Master Chief)...One more question...at what mileage do you experience runner's high?
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Hi Cavenerd and welcome ! I love your input in this thread already . I am a beginner at the running myself , started with a 5 minute jog then I found this thread ! I tried 1 mile for a couple weeks and loved it but had to push to get it done , now I am up to 2 miles non stop and that's at a 5.5 or 6 mph run/jog and I leave the gym with a red face no matter what
and that's at a 5.5 or 6 mph run/jog and I leave the gym with a red face no matter what
"Also, this is the perfect place to ask this, I think. Has anyone noticed changes in their cardio capability or breathing capacity since starting vaping? I'm almost 6-months quit and I have yet to notice any increase in breath or breath control."
Most Definitely! I could never run. I hated the very thought of cardio for most of my life. I was a chubby kid, and I picked up smoking a tender age. Before vaping, I could maybe run about 1/8 of a mile, then I would feel like my heart was gonna burst through my chest. I started training and vaping. last year (i had major back issues that side lined me for a while) I was running 30+ miles a week and clocking in at 9:47 for my mile. Vaping is a fantastic thing.
Granted, I'm out of shape currently. But I'm slowly getting it back. Running a mile every other morning, and I want to start to lifting this month.
Most Definitely! I could never run. I hated the very thought of cardio for most of my life. I was a chubby kid, and I picked up smoking a tender age. Before vaping, I could maybe run about 1/8 of a mile, then I would feel like my heart was gonna burst through my chest. I started training and vaping. last year (i had major back issues that side lined me for a while) I was running 30+ miles a week and clocking in at 9:47 for my mile.
Vaping is a fantastic thing. Granted, I'm out of shape currently. But I'm slowly getting it back. Running a mile every other morning, and I want to start to lifting this month.
you are still way too young.... try doing the "change" after you hit 50... then you will notice the difference
Question for Cavenerd...what kind of shoes do you like to wear for running? Go Navy (Navy brat here...
One more question...at what mileage do you experience runner's high?
RJ. Hooyah! Go Navy!
The shoes I wear depend on what I'm trying to work out, but there are several broad categories. Basically you have trail shoes, road shoes, and cross trainers (listed in order thickest sole to thinest sole). A fourth pseudo category are barefoot/minimalist shoes but I ONLY use those on short runs (usually <4 miles and never more than 5 and I, personally, never do anything close to a race pace in minimalist shoes. Too much shock on the bones and joints.).
My everyday road shoes are Adidas marathon 10's (of which I had the good sense, or luck, to pick up several pairs before coming to Bahamas) but I don't think they are made anymore. The 10's are by no means a uber high-performance, high-milage shoes but I'm a fan of the fit and road feel, even though they're a neutral shoe and I tend to over-pronate. I picked up some Adidas supernova glides but they have less than 60 miles on 'em so I haven't made up my mind. I was a big fan of the original supernovas and I can see the attraction of this latest iteration.
My trail shoes are New Balance Minimus' and I've been using this model for YEARS. I still dust of the first pair I ever owned and take them out for a spin. They're like old friends.
What kind of foot do you have? Over-pronate, Supinate or neutral? If you don't know; google how to tell your foot type (it will probably involve wet feet and paper grocery bags) or if you want I could walk you through the process.
Are you man or woman? We need different shoes.
What do you want shoes for? Are you a road runner or a X-fitter? Or just a gym rat?
Along with the last question, what's your weekly milage?
Runner's high is a little different for everyone and I don't even get it every time I run, no matter the milage. Most of the time when I have it I don't even realize that I'm getting it until I notice that I'm cruising along lost in my head and I've stopped worrying about the time and the road and the pace. etc... I would guess, if you backed me into a corner and made me say, I usually get it somewhere after the 3 miles mark... there are times though when I've done high-milage runs and came to the end just as miserable as when I started and there are times when I was going out for a quick 3 and stayed for 10 because I just didn't feel like stopping...
I know that doesn't help very much. Sorry. All my runs, no matter the distance, start with a light warm-up for 5-20 minutes (warm up is dependent on overall milage). After my warm up I stretch (Don't do my thing. Stretch first) and then I try to do a race pace for 2-5 minutes. After that, I'll slow down and settle into whatever pace or workout that I have set for myself that day. I definitely can't get my high on days that I don't follow my routine.
Thanks for the questions and I hope I wasn't too obtuse.
Apparently, I really like to talk about shoes.
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Hi Cavenerd and welcome ! I love your input in this thread already . I am a beginner at the running myself , started with a 5 minute jog then I found this thread ! I tried 1 mile for a couple weeks and loved it but had to push to get it done , now I am up to 2 miles non stop
Guilty- Always be happy about that red-face! It means that your heart's pushing your blood around to show everyone how happy you are. The difference between a runner and someone that exercises (and don't get me wrong, it's good to be either or both) is that runners find that little extra push to get the run done... No matter the distance. I still have days when it takes everything I have for the morning to get through my warm-ups, and then somehow, I find a little more, and then a little more and then the run is over.
You all treadmill or do you you slap some pavement too?
you are still way too young.... try doing the "change" after you hit 50... then you will notice the difference
I'm gonna be young forever.
I've been 27 for like the last 13 years in a row. Oops. Almost forgot my birthday is next week...14 years in a row.
Don't forget to wish me a happy 27th!!
(I also like when people comment about how salt and pepper hair is quite fetching on a 27 yr old.)
"Also, this is the perfect place to ask this, I think. Has anyone noticed changes in their cardio capability or breathing capacity since starting vaping? I'm almost 6-months quit and I have yet to notice any increase in breath or breath control."
Most Definitely! I could never run. I hated the very thought of cardio for most of my life. I was a chubby kid, and I picked up smoking a tender age. Before vaping, I could maybe run about 1/8 of a mile, then I would feel like my heart was gonna burst through my chest. I started training and vaping. last year (i had major back issues that side lined me for a while) I was running 30+ miles a week and clocking in at 9:47 for my mile.
Granted, I'm out of shape currently. But I'm slowly getting it back. Running a mile every other morning, and I want to start to lifting this month.
Keep at, man. It comes back faster and easier than it did the first time around. I don't run before or after leg day if I'm going heavy at the gym.
Plus, I've put on a few lbs over the weight I'd like to be. I think of it as potential energy for a nice long run.
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I'm proud of my ability to put down miles but I'm proud of anyone our age (I'm guessing '76 has meaning) that slugs it out with the road for the better part of the week. Maybe you need to work on your breathing patterns for your high-intensity runs... I have different breathing for pace, race pace and sprints. It seems to help me. Plus, those super efficient runners legs probably aren't helping... they're o2 hogs!
I've never quit smoking before so I have no idea what to expect. I always thought when I was doing extremely high milage weeks that if I could quit smoking I would be "crushing" my normal times. Still waiting for the "crushing" to begin...
G'night folks.
I'm proud of my ability to put down miles but I'm proud of anyone our age (I'm guessing '76 has meaning) that slugs it out with the road for the better part of the week. Maybe you need to work on your breathing patterns for your high-intensity runs... I have different breathing for pace, race pace and sprints. It seems to help me. Plus, those super efficient runners legs probably aren't helping... they're o2 hogs!
I've never quit smoking before so I have no idea what to expect. I always thought when I was doing extremely high milage weeks that if I could quit smoking I would be "crushing" my normal times. Still waiting for the "crushing" to begin...
G'night folks.
Thanks, I will look into the breathing pattern thing.
I also don't get runner's high anymore, in my first year I got it every time... Maybe I need to push myself past that 3rd mile or go a little faster..
And yes, just turned 39..
Question for Cavenerd...what kind of shoes do you like to wear for running? Go Navy (Navy brat here...
One more question...at what mileage do you experience runner's high?
I think Retic is a retired Master Chef too
Thanks, I will look into the breathing pattern thing.
I also don't get runner's high anymore, in my first year I got it every time... Maybe I need to push myself past that 3rd mile or go a little faster..
And yes, just turned 39..
The high for me is about enjoying the run. I know there's a physiological aspect, I can feel that part, but I never get the feeling if I'm waiting for it. Let your mind wander and the muscle memory of your body will take you further than you might guess - that's the place I feel the high.
Also, Happy birthday. Aquarius or capricorn? (Just turned?)
Cavenerd, I never look for that runner's high. I just know when it hits because I'm running and smiling!
Capricorn.
Bronze.. I'm going to have to change my screen name next December! Remember this is my first and only forum so I didn't know what the heck I was doing when I signed up.. Very glad I did tho-bad screen name and all! .
Capricorn.
Bronze.. I'm going to have to change my screen name next December! Remember this is my first and only forum so I didn't know what the heck I was doing when I signed up.. Very glad I did tho-bad screen name and all! .
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