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They do work well, but I think it's safe to say the mAh rating is a little overstated . . . that's pretty typical for most batts, anyway


And I added my run time from the 18650 to my post above

Sounds good, well im using brass ts tube with 18350 and it fires every time. I cleaned the tune last nite.

I tried it with an 18650 and works great as well :)

Thank you KJ1


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Using mine in my TS with a 2000 mah 18650, 2 top tubes, no telescope showing, a 6mm magnet on the nipple, 12mm magnet on the flat part, and my UFS with a 1.8ohm Patriot atomizer (Nextel wick and 36g nichrome) at 10w and it's working beautifully. Worth the $45, at least enough to tide me over until Imeos newest device drops...
 

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Sounds good, well im using brass ts tube with 18350 and it fires every time

Yeah, in that setup it worked flawlessly, no misfires or stutters. My only problem was the run time on the small batts. Just fine for sitting at home, though out and about I wouldn't want to have to carry more than one extra battery with me

Still using 18650s right now. I don't mind that a couple tele threads show, it's still screwed in enough that it's stable and doesn't wobble at all
 

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I'm just loving the Kick with the ODY! I received mine from SuperT on Friday and after two full days of use I just couldn't be happier and don't have any complaints whatsoever... I've been using it at the max setting (10w) with a new 2.4 ohm coil made with xc-116, .15mm stock R wire and silver NR wire. I didn't think it was possible but I love my ODY even more now!!!

I did have high hopes for the Kick and I was really hoping that it wouldn't be a letdown. And I'm really happy that it's as good as some have said that it is. The max 10w output seems to be just right for me and I'm not sure that I would be going past it even if I could. I discovered my ultimate sweetspot setup a long time ago which was vaping at "6V" (2 stacked LiFePO4s) with a 3.0 atty which generates right around 10w. I can see how someone who vapes at "6V" with standard 510 atties would not find the Kick satisfactory for their vaping style but I think most vapers would love it. I just suggest that people try it and experience it in order to make an educated decision whether it's the right piece of equipment for them or not. Just my :2c:
 

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6 / 3 = 2 x 6 = 12wats. Just wanted to point that out :) too bad I didn't get one from the first batch, I believe it is all its told to be and seeing that most of the feedback is this good make me regret even more :( Well, they will eventually be back in stock, i hope....
Your formula is correct however using accurate numbers will change the outcome. Notice I said "6V" and not precisely 6V. The reason is that 6V is a general term we use to describe vaping with two stacked LiFePO4 batteries. However, we are never actually vaping at true 6V even with two freshly charged batteries. When we apply load (resistance), the voltage instantly drops to about 5.5V (more or less depending on the level of resistance). So using a 3.0 ohm atty with two stacked 3.2V LifePO4 batts actually gives us closer to 10w rather than 12w when batteries are under load.
 

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I'm just loving the Kick with the ODY! I received mine from SuperT on Friday and after two full days of use I just couldn't be happier and don't have any complaints whatsoever... I've been using it at the max setting (10w) with a new 2.4 ohm coil made with xc-116, .15mm stock R wire and silver NR wire. I didn't think it was possible but I love my ODY even more now!!!

I did have high hopes for the Kick and I was really hoping that it wouldn't be a letdown. And I'm really happy that it's as good as some have said that it is. The max 10w output seems to be just right for me and I'm not sure that I would be going past it even if I could. I discovered my ultimate sweetspot setup a long time ago which was vaping at "6V" (2 stacked LiFePO4s) with a 3.0 atty which generates right around 10w. I can see how someone who vapes at "6V" with standard 510 atties would not find the Kick satisfactory for their vaping style but I think most vapers would love it. I just suggest that people try it and experience it in order to make an educated decision whether it's the right piece of equipment for them or not. Just my :2c:

6 / 3 = 2 x 6 = 12wats. Just wanted to point that out :) too bad I didn't get one from the first batch, I believe it is all its told to be and seeing that most of the feedback is this good make me regret even more :( Well, they will eventually be back in stock, i hope....

FWIW: 2xAW LifePO4 rcr123a do not put out 6V under load. They do not have sufficient max amps push. Put them on an under-load meter and see the voltage drop-off. Ohms Law MUST balance and the max amps push of those batts becomes a limiting factor.

I am not 100% sure what the max amps push of those batts is but I took two freshly charged AW LifePO4 3v batts (6.6 metered unloaded - stacked), put an under-load meter on it with a 2.8Ωs coil and got only 5.4V under-load. Based on Ohms Law, that would imply about 1.9 amps max push. This was in a GGTB and conductive efficiency of the device is another factor.

Based on this 1.9 amps assumption, those batts might put out (on a 2.5Ω atty) about 4.75 volts and about 9 watts under-load.

Using the same 1.9 amps assumption, vaporologist's 3Ωs numbers are closer to Ohms Law calculations: 5.7V and 10.8 watts

Only way to know for sure is put them in your own device with an under-load meter and YOUR atty/carto and see what you are getting under-load.

Kick numbers are always under load - kick does not function unloaded.

EDIT: Vaporologist beat me to it - while I was typing and running the numbers. :)

EDIT #2: those numbers would be to start with (fully charged batts) and drop off from there as the batts drain (battery curve). with Kick, the 2.5Ωs atty/carto would get the full 10 watts and the 18490 batts, at 1100 mah, would last much longer than the 500 mah of the LifePo4s
 
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I am not 100% sure what the max amps push of those batts is but I took two freshly charged AW LifePO4 3v batts (6.6 metered unloaded - stacked), put an under-load meter on it with a 2.8Ωs coil and got only 5.4V under-load. Based on Ohms Law, that would imply about 1.9 amps max push.

I would hazard a guess that the max discharge spec as supplied by the vendor is less than 1.9A. Just because they can be run at a given rate doesn't mean they are safe to run at that rate. The manufacturers probably under rate them to have a safety margin.

What make & model are the batteries you tested?
 

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Ummmmm - I think they are AW LifePO4s - as stated in the quote you copied. The 1.9 is reverse calculated based on voltage drop-off from the under load reading (using an Ohms Law calculator). The batts push what they push. I am not getting into "safety" as I only did this as a test to answer someone else in another thread (and it conveniently became useful for this thread post as well). I do not think voltage drop-off is a safe way to vape. I do not like stacking (in series) either.
 
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Ummmmm - I think they are AW LifePO4s - as stated in the quote you copied. The 1.9 is reverse calculated based on voltage drop-off from the under load reading (using an Ohms Law calculator). The batts push what they push. I am not getting into "safety" as I only did this as a test to answer someone else in another thread (and it conveniently became useful for this thread post as well). I do not think voltage drop-off is a safe way to vape. I do not like stacking (in series) either.

Sorry about that. I reread the post and saw you stated they are AW rcr123a.

I'm in agreement regarding series stacking and voltage drop.
 
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