The Lemo RTA: A Build With Pics

[horton]

Thanks very much for the help. I never did think about the added resistance with the longer legs adding more resistance. Maybe I'd be better off with the screws since I usually make my coils usins 30 AWG Kanthal A1. I do have a sample of I think 26 AWG I'd like to fiddle with. I think I need to sorta put aside what I do with the kayfun type devices and keep an open mind with the Lemo. Seems to be quite a different "animal".
Really appreciate the help.......

 

[novamatt]

Absolutely! What mod are you using? I did 28 when I was on a Provari (went up to 15 watts) - the 26 can take a little while to heat up at lower wattages. I'm running the 26 at 22.5 watts.

 

[horton]

Absolutely! What mod are you using? I did 28 when I was on a Provari (went up to 15 watts) - the 26 can take a little while to heat up at lower wattages. I'm running the 26 at 22.5 watts.

I have a Provari V1 and what I think is a really early version VAMO (it's black with a display that only shows V -- this is truly a VV -- no other fancy display items...lol If I can figure out how to post a pic I'll do so). No mech mods to fiddle with. I think I'm gonna have a problem with coil size if I go much below 29 AWG while trying for ~1.6 - 1.8Ω. I always have to check with the "coil program" to see how roughly many wraps I'll end up with -- getting too old to figure stuff in my head....lol

 

[novamatt]

My build on the Provari was about 8 or 9 wraps or so of 28 on a 3/32" bit. Worked out to around 1.5ish if I remember correctly. Good flavor around 12 watts with the airflow set at a kayfun like draw.

 

[horton]

My build on the Provari was about 8 or 9 wraps or so of 28 on a 3/32" bit. Worked out to around 1.5ish if I remember correctly. Good flavor around 12 watts with the airflow set at a kayfun like draw.

I will give this coil setup a whirl when I make up a few coils and see how it works. Thanks for the info!!

 

[Circa Survivor]

I still can't get the wicking on the lemo right. It's either too much, or too little, and I've tried everything in between. Have used both rayon and koh gen do. Wick glides through sometimes, other times I make it snug. I never twist it either. I've primed the wick and have placed them against the walls, slightly over the well, gently pack them down, or slightly touching the deck. People say use less cotton, but they also say use more cotton. Should the cotton be like the bowtie method, or should it be thin on both ends? I just can't get this damn thing right, and it sucks that with the lemo you can't work on the deck without having to drain your juice into a bottle or with a syringe. Ugh! So darn frustrating

 

[RandyF]

I still can't get the wicking on the lemo right. It's either too much, or too little, and I've tried everything in between. Have used both rayon and koh gen do. Wick glides through sometimes, other times I make it snug. I never twist it either. I've primed the wick and have placed them against the walls, slightly over the well, gently pack them down, or slightly touching the deck. People say use less cotton, but they also say use more cotton. Should the cotton be like the bowtie method, or should it be thin on both ends? I just can't get this damn thing right, and it sucks that with the lemo you can't work on the deck without having to drain your juice into a bottle or with a syringe. Ugh! So darn frustrating

How you wick isn't the only factor in how a wick performs. Juice and the wattage you are vaping at are also big factors. It is a balance that depending on the atty can be very forgiving, or in the case of a Kayfun, very unforgiving. The Lemo tends to lean towards the more forgiving side.

Using more wick with a high VG juice and higher watts, is going to cause you problems. So while more wick my work well for someone else, it may not perform well for you. That is just one example of many.

What watts are you wanting to use the Lemo at, and what is the PG/VG of your juice.

 

[Canno]

What pg/vg ratio is your juice?

EDIT: Yeah, what Randy said.

 

[Circa Survivor]

I completely forgot about the pg/vg ratio of my juice. The zamplebox I got had mostly 30/70 pg vg ratio, but the juice i usually order is 50/50, so maybe that's why I'm having problems since I've been using more cotton than I should for the higher vg juices. I uusally run it at .8 - 1.2, depending on how I build it. I tend to run it at a normal wattage, nothing super high.

 

[NOVA jon]

How you wick isn't the only factor in how a wick performs. Juice and the wattage you are vaping at are also big factors. It is a balance that depending on the atty can be very forgiving, or in the case of a Kayfun, very unforgiving. The Lemo tends to lean towards the more forgiving side.

Using more wick with a high VG juice and higher watts, is going to cause you problems. So while more wick my work well for someone else, it may not perform well for you. That is just one example of many.

What watts are you wanting to use the Lemo at, and what is the PG/VG of your juice.

I think all of this is true and even more important with the nickel builds. Takes a few tries to get the wicking right, with my nickel builds it's tough to get the coils in line with the juice channels so you have to snake your wick a little. To compensate for that and get my wick to gently touch the top of the deck, I make an angled cut on the wick where it is closest to the screw on the build deck. It sits a little easier. After screwing on the first part of the chimney, I readjust the wick so I can barely see the juice channels and finish assembling the atty. that's what I've found to work best for me!

I try for around .23 ohm and vape it at 25W

 

[Canno]

As with most things, keep an open mind and keep on keepin on. You'll get it.

 

[RandyF]

I completely forgot about the pg/vg ratio of my juice. The zamplebox I got had mostly 30/70 pg vg ratio, but the juice i usually order is 50/50, so maybe that's why I'm having problems since I've been using more cotton than I should for the higher vg juices. I uusally run it at .8 - 1.2, depending on how I build it. I tend to run it at a normal wattage, nothing super high.

This is just me, and others probably do it without issue, but I wouldn't even bother with 70%+ VG in a tank. 50% VG is about as high as I would go in my RTA's. Maybe when you get some lower VG in there you will find the wicking a bit more forgiving. My ADV is 50/50 and I wouldn't say the wicking of my Lemo's is always perfect, but even with a little too much or not quite enough, they always perform well, sometimes to my surprise.

 

[Circa Survivor]

This is just me, and others probably do it without issue, but I wouldn't even bother with 70%+ VG in a tank. 50% VG is about as high as I would go in my RTA's. Maybe when you get some lower VG in there you will find the wicking a bit more forgiving. My ADV is 50/50 and I wouldn't say the wicking of my Lemo's is always perfect, but even with a little too much or not quite enough, they always perform well, sometimes to my surprise.

I usually do have 50/50, but like I said, it's all from that zamplebox thing and I don't have any other liquids in the mean time. Would it be fine to add a little distilled water to it? Or is there a good trick to vaping the Lemo with higher VG juices? I know rip has a video on that, but I honestly think he's full of crap xD

 

[RandyF]

I usually do have 50/50, but like I said, it's all from that zamplebox thing and I don't have any other liquids in the mean time. Would it be fine to add a little distilled water to it? Or is there a good trick to vaping the Lemo with higher VG juices? I know rip has a video on that, but I honestly think he's full of crap xD

I have read about people adding distilled water to high VG liquid to thin it out, but I have never done it.

You can simply try just priming it every few pulls, not as easy on the Lemo with the 4 air holes, but doable. I keep a "vape band" around my Lemo glass to protect it from tip overs, it also works very well to cut the airflow off by just sliding it down over the holes. I tend to chain vape, so sometimes I do it if I think the wicking is falling behind.

 

[Canno]

That might work, but I don't know, I have no experience with higher VG. You might try a couple of hits without hitting the fire button to try to get more juice in there. You might try cutting back on the airflow a little, see if that would get more juice in. You might pull the drip tip off and drop a couple of drops in that way. Maybe cut back on the power a little. But like Randy said, get some 50/50 if you have to rob somebody.

Edit: Sorry Randy, If I knew you were about to post I would have held off.

 

[Circa Survivor]

I usually do cover the airholes and give it a little prime from time to time, but I tend to chain vape, and it gets to be a pain, especially if I'm driving. I may just need to work on my wicking

 

[Canno]

Sounds like you've tried different wicking a lot already. I dreamed that I walked a mile for a Camel last night.............scary.

Hmmmmmmmmm..........a bottle of vodka and a pack of cigs...................................nah.

 

[Circa Survivor]

I have gotten frustrated to that point. I've been working on a nice dual coil build in an rda, and everything's ready to wick and one of my coil legs snaps. Needless to say it went flying across the room. I didn't have anything built at that point and I still had a pack of marlboros from a while ago, so I had one. I sometimes have a short temper xD

 

[puffon]

I have gotten frustrated to that point. I've been working on a nice dual coil build in an rda, and everything's ready to wick and one of my coil legs snaps. Needless to say it went flying across the room. I didn't have anything built at that point and I still had a pack of marlboros from a while ago, so I had one. I sometimes have a short temper xD

Nothing worse than a stale Marlboro
30/70vg has been working for me, wicked like the OP shows
Using KGD in a 3mm Ni build
Maybe try a larger diameter coil...

 

[Circa Survivor]

Nothing worse than a stale Marlboro
30/70vg has been working for me, wicked like the OP shows
Using KGD in a 3mm Ni build
Maybe try a larger diameter coil...

I'll try that. Largest I've done in the Lemo so far is a 2.4mm.