The Lemo RTA: A Build With Pics

[jhhollier]

The best place for a Kanger is the warehouse it's setting in.
Don't listen to the babbling about leaks, I have 6 Lemo's and none leak ever even in my pockets.

While I disagree on the Kanger (it certainly has its place in my lineup; ease of use and pretty darn good flavor), I agree on the leaking. I have had one leak in the month+ I've had the Lemo and it was my own fault.

 

[horton]

All of this talk about leaking and having to use orings I hope I didn't make a mistake ordering 2 of them instead of the Kanger subtank. I figured I would only use the Kanger in rba mode anyway I might as well get one that is a true rta.

I wouldn't fret too much over the talk about leaking, legs..... Maybe I'm way off base saying this but I have not had any problems at all with mine. Yes the 510 pin is more recessed than some other devices but it has not been an issue with Provari, SID, and Vamo. They are easy to build, forgiving with beginners, and vape quite well. My only "complaint" might be that they may be considered a bit noisy on the inhale, but that is a matter of personal interpretation.
What really slays me with the Lemo is the price. I'm convinced many people didn't and don't give them a second glance because of the very reasonable pricing. I'm not slamming other manufacturers but I'd rather buy a half dozen Lemo's for the price of certain other devices and I don't have to worry about my "parts count" after cleaning..... again, just my opinion and not casting aspersions whatsoever.
Sit back, relax, and anticipate the delivery of your Lemo's. I'm sure you will be happy with your purchase. Hope this helps to allay your concerns.......

 

[2legsshrt]

Yeah I hear ya I've got a Kanger sub the 25mm and it works real good but all I use it is in the RTA mode so I'm paying for parts i have no use for because I don't subohm. I'm going to with the Lemo's but that is with NI200 a hole different breed of cat.

 

[Darkly spectr]

I got a lemo drop and It is pretty great. the only issue is that because it doesn't really HAVE a shaft whenever I fire up anything with some decent power I have to like keep it away from my face haha.

It just like....EXPLODES once and then it's fine. this happens whenever I let it sit for a minute. It's not too annoying but the first time. my mouth is still sore from that burn

so a question to those who have the original AND the drop. which one seems to have the best flavor.

no issues on leaking here.

 

[VaPreis]

I got a lemo drop and It is pretty great. the only issue is that because it doesn't really HAVE a shaft whenever I fire up anything with some decent power I have to like keep it away from my face haha.

It just like....EXPLODES once and then it's fine. this happens whenever I let it sit for a minute. It's not too annoying but the first time. my mouth is still sore from that burn

so a question to those who have the original AND the drop. which one seems to have the best flavor.

no issues on leaking here.

That's a wicking issue.

Try making the cotton a little tighter in the coil.

As far as flavor goes, after using both style Lemos for awhile, I'll give the edge to the full size Lemo.

Both are great.

 

[WeirdWillie]

Full size has a better flavor to me, the longer chimney, seems to give a little more moist vape than the drop.
Not saying the drop is bad, not at all, but I prefer a warm moist flavor laden vape.

 

[VaPreis]

For clarity's sake, the 510 pin on the the Lemo is adjustable.

Some users have added an o-ring underneath the pin for stability when using the Lemo on hybrid style mechanical mods or for use with DNA40 temp control. (Or a matter of personal preference)

I have used the adjustable 510 feature to extend the positive pin without an o-ring for my Cloupor Hana clone without issue.

A leaking Lemo is user error. The principles behind these devices are simple. A simple inspection of required seals (There's only 3!), adequate wicking and proper assembly is all that's required for a leak-free Lemo.

 

[sketch804]

Well after a few builds I finally was able to get a leak in my Lemo like some have had. But all I can say is that it's 100% a wicking issue, at least in my case. Lighter the better for wicking, I knew it was a bit thick but I was hoping it would work, should have known better. Rewicked lighter and all is well. Before this my Lemo NEVER leaked, hopefully it won't again as long as I wick it right. Other than that this is a great tank, gives me huge clouds, and amazing flavor! Great help here, thanks all!

 

[windnsea26]

Both of my lemos arrived today. Had a hard time building with 24 gauge so I went with 26. 5 wraps reading at .73 and it's not too bad. Vape is cool and not as warm as I'm accustom to but this is going to be great for driving to work.
I will play around more to see if I can get a lower build on.

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[Tomso]

Both of my lemos arrived today. Had a hard time building with 24 gauge so I went with 26. 5 wraps reading at .73 and it's not too bad. Vape is cool and not as warm as I'm accustom to but this is going to be great for driving to work.
I will play around more to see if I can get a lower build on.

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Have to get me some drip tip. Love the one on the drop.

 

[VaPreis]

Both of my lemos arrived today. Had a hard time building with 24 gauge so I went with 26. 5 wraps reading at .73 and it's not too bad. Vape is cool and not as warm as I'm accustom to but this is going to be great for driving to work.
I will play around more to see if I can get a lower build on.

Great looking mods!

24ga is do-able. I know it's thick, but it's possible to wrap the coil leads around the screw once and trap them that way. I've done it before, but went back to 26ga because I don't care for the extra cool down time of a big 24ga coil.

6 or 7 wraps at 2.4mm gets you in the neighborhood of 0.5Ω, which should be a pretty nice vape on a mech.

 

[windnsea26]

Great looking mods!

24ga is do-able. I know it's thick, but it's possible to wrap the coil leads around the screw once and trap them that way. I've done it before, but went back to 26ga because I don't care for the extra cool down time of a big 24ga coil.

6 or 7 wraps at 2.4mm gets you in the neighborhood of 0.5Ω, which should be a pretty nice vape on a mech.

Thanks for tip. I was doing some chain vaping to test it out and started to experience some dry hits. I may need to rebuild or rewick.


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[jhhollier]

I was so trained to think that the lower you can build, the better the production. When I got the Lemo I thought, great, I can finally build those .8 builds I could never do in the KF. Then I saw an older post by rusirius the other day that really opened my eyes. I never had any experience with mods over 20 watts, other than mechs, before I got my rDNA40. While lower coils leading to better production holds true for mechs, it is just the opposite for regulated, to a degree. Most of you with experience on 30 watt+ devices probably already know this, but the production (flavor and vapor) using a 28g 1.8Ω coil at 32 watts far exceeds a 26g .8Ω at 23 watts. I mean it is a huge difference on the Lemo.

If you didn't see the post by rusirius and you still have the mindset that lower resistance means better production on regulated mods, you should check out that post.

28g 1.8Ω was the biggest spaced coil (10 wraps I think) I could comfortably get in the Lemo and it will be my go to build using kanthal from now on. The Lemo has no problems keeping up at 32 watts, but it was a little to warm for my liking, so I have been at 30 watts.

Any chance of getting pics of the build? Also, how do you go about wrapping a spaced coil? Dumb question maybe but I've tried it and can't seem to get it right.

Also been wicking like you posted about earlier in the thread and I have to say it's working out great. Once I finish this tank I'm either gonna try and add a "flavor" or "mummy" wick or maybe use Willie's bridge wick with yours. I meant to try that last week but never got around to it and I've been enjoying the current setup that I've just been filling and vaping it.

 

[cigatron]

I got a lemo drop and It is pretty great. the only issue is that because it doesn't really HAVE a shaft whenever I fire up anything with some decent power I have to like keep it away from my face haha.

It just like....EXPLODES once and then it's fine. this happens whenever I let it sit for a minute. It's not too annoying but the first time. my mouth is still sore from that Burn

Popping right after hitting the fire button? Could be under wicked or have bad coil symmetry causing a hot turn in the coil. Either one will cause insufficient wick compression against the inside of the coil and lead to popping.

Check to make sure the coil turns are uniform in diameter, straightness and have no gaps (contact micro). Usually a dry fire and pinching will fix it.

Overwicking a coil to eliminate popping is just a bandaid fix imo and never really flows juice as it should.

 

[horton]

For clarity's sake, the 510 pin on the the Lemo is adjustable.
Some users have added an o-ring underneath the pin for stability when using the Lemo on hybrid style mechanical mods or for use with DNA40 temp control. (Or a matter of personal preference)
I have used the adjustable 510 feature to extend the positive pin without an o-ring for my Cloupor Hana clone without issue.
A leaking Lemo is user error. The principles behind these devices are simple. A simple inspection of required seals (There's only 3!), adequate wicking and proper assembly is all that's required for a leak-free Lemo.

How true....... Seems that many times we tend to over-think and over-complicate problems when in reality the answer is very simple. Lemo's are great devices and what a fantastic deal. I'm glad to see more and more vapers are beginning to discover them.

 

[RandyF]

Any chance of getting pics of the build? Also, how do you go about wrapping a spaced coil? Dumb question maybe but I've tried it and can't seem to get it right.

Also been wicking like you posted about earlier in the thread and I have to say it's working out great. Once I finish this tank I'm either gonna try and add a "flavor" or "mummy" wick or maybe use Willie's bridge wick with yours. I meant to try that last week but never got around to it and I've been enjoying the current setup that I've just been filling and vaping it.

I will post a picture when I get home a bit later, that setup goes through juice too fast for me to use as my ADV. As far as wrapping, if I do it around a screwdriver, I just leave small gaps between each wrap, once I have all the wraps I want I just go back with my 1mm screwdriver and even everything out. It would probably be easier to just wrap it around a 6-32 screw then pinch it together with your fingers, it should spring back still spaced but but closer together.

 

[RandyF]

For clarity's sake, the 510 pin on the the Lemo is adjustable.

Some users have added an o-ring underneath the pin for stability when using the Lemo on hybrid style mechanical mods or for use with DNA40 temp control. (Or a matter of personal preference)

I have used the adjustable 510 feature to extend the positive pin without an o-ring for my Cloupor Hana clone without issue.

A leaking Lemo is user error. The principles behind these devices are simple. A simple inspection of required seals (There's only 3!), adequate wicking and proper assembly is all that's required for a leak-free Lemo.

It is "sort of" adjustable. For me just backing it out left the pin far to wobbly for my liking, and definitely to loose to trust using on my hybrid mech, not to mention the voltage drop from the loose connection. Turning that insulator into a washer is a really easy, extends that 510 to the perfect length while keeping it snug as well.

 

[Herpdederper]

I lost the ceramic insulator washer that supports the center pin from my new Lemo. Does anyone have a set of calipers and could get me and ID, OD and Thickness measurement?

 

[windnsea26]

There's your problem... The wick was too short before. Cutting it down to just above the top chimney completely stopped the leaking! The popping is not so loud and scary, I'm hoping it will go away after I vape it awhile. Thank you Soignee

Thanks for this info. I was getting good hits for like 4-5 drags and then it would be dry. If I let it sit awhile, it would be good again. My wick was not as long as in some of the pictures here so I'm guessing that is my problem.

 

[sivo]

I've my my lemo drop for about a week, amazing tank but the big clouds only lasted a day or 2, since then it's standard (still more vapor than a kayfun lol) what gives? current build is 0.7 ohm microcoil, not sure on diameter, bigger than 1/16th, next size up (tobeco coil jig) it's around 6 or 7 wraps i think, regular cotton since i cant find rayon anywhere. also running it on my sigelei 100w plus at 30 watts right now.