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Maybe I'll buy one of each and do some testing. I personally like my hardware to remain as low profile as possible, but function is first priority! As I said earlier, probably all just a waste as I can't imagine they are better then the fusions but you don't know until you try!

Thanks for the guidance Verm, it is appreciated!
 

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Oh ya I know that. There probably isn't a carto I haven't used but I don't want to flip my carto around between hits to get a puff that is sub-par to the Fusion I have in my tank. If something else worked better that's what I'd be using. Ive been through the atomizer thing, the dripping, cyclones, clearos, ego tanks, smokers delight cartos, ce2,3,4 etc. 808s, 901s, tanks, bottom feeders 4081s, i06s, 306s, dripping,dual coils, lLRs, HVs, and the list goes on and there is nothing that vapes as well or consistant as a Fusion in a tank. But that's just my opinion and they are like, well you know. That's why they're always out of stock though.

BTW that array is a good looking tank though. It looks like it's well built for a tank.

I haven't tried Fusion cartos yet. What tank besides this one will go good with one of those? Or should I mod my own tank? haha. Fusion seems to be getting a lot of props so I'm willing to try one.
 

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I haven't tried Fusion cartos yet. What tank besides this one will go good with one of those? Or should I mod my own tank? haha. Fusion seems to be getting a lot of props so I'm willing to try one.

I hear they fit right in the liquinator but in my MAP I had to enlarge part of the bottom Delrin hole. Loft just shortened his MAP. You might not like them. I've found people that don't but not very many.
I know one thing though. They are juice hogs. If he's out PM me and I'll send you a couple.

No problem. Finding what works for you is all that counts.
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I hear they fit right in the liquinator but in my MAP I had to enlarge part of the bottom Delrin hole. Loft just shortened his MAP. You might not like them. I've found people that don't but not very many.

I just want consistent flavor. With enough fiddling I get that with CE2's which is why I got a CE2 tank. I have a GoGo and their cartos are good, but get gunked up with my 50/50 juices more quickly, especially dark ones. I also don't like having to flip it, but it's become second nature to flip before taking a hit now on my CE2's.

What would you recommend for someone who wants something close to atty dripping, but without the fuss of dripping every time or the mess? Is there anything that reaches that with tanks or close? I'm also not sure I like the taste of filler and burnt filler, which is why I'm going away from the GoGo. Too hard for me to know when it's dry, gunked up, or burnt because I can't see inside. That's why I'm going more for clearomizers and tanks right now.

I'm not sure what my perfect vape is. I think it might be the new VVPV if that thing can drip on a 510 atty or something similar without mess.
 

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I hated all things filler until I got a tank. I hated the hassel of dripping and the tank was my last ditch effort. As long as you keep your tank filled above your slots or holes the flavor in my opinion is consistent and the filler never tastes burnt as it always stays wet and never gets burnt!

As for which carto to use with a tank that is a personal choice. Like 5card I prefer the fusion. In my opinion there isn't a huge difference between the boge and the fusion. The reason I like the fusion more is because the draw is a little bit tighter on every fusion and boge I have tried. I think the flavor is a bit richer with the fusion. And finally with the fusion the tank won't slide down. My husband likes the looser draw on the boge and thinks the taste is better (see matter of personal opinion) but to him the difference wasn't enough to not use the fusions... he likes the fact that the tank doesn't slide down and flavor and draw wasn't enough not to use them!
 
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Well with 50/50 I'd stay away from the fusions. But I don't know in a tank how they would act with thick juice. I have an Ikon that is an ego sized PV that is based on a CE2 and I have to flip it around upside down between puffs. I recomend you go with the one you like the best. Every one of us has their likes and dislikes because we all have different tastes and vaping styles. I know the best dripping atty I've tried is Ikens new i06. There is a video Switched did that shows him put 3 drops in an i06 lr and take 20 plus 2 more hits off of it. It doesn't leak either.
 
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Well with 50/50 I'd stay away from the fusions. But I don't know in a tank how they would act with thick juice. I have an Ikon that is an ego sized PV that is based on a CE2 and I have to flip it around upside down between puffs. I recomend you go with the one you like the best. Every one of us has their likes and dislikes because we all have different tastes and vaping styles. I know the best dripping atty I've tried is Ikens new i06. There is a video Switched did that shows him put 3 drops in an i06 lr and take 20 plus 2 more hits off of it. It doesn't leak either.


Oh nice. I know everyone likes different things. I like 50/50 juice, but I'm thinking of trying some 70pg/30vg. One reason I switched to 50/50 is that was what was premixed at FreedomsmokeUSA, and it seemed just right. However, I have noticed it doesn't like cartomizers as much as atomizers. I'm not sure what mix is perfect. I didn't like pure PG juices I tried. I just started in January so I have a lot more experimentation to do I guess!

EDIT: Err I meant 70pg 30 vg
 
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Kick Bass Vapors has some awesome flavors and they have a 70pg/30vg mixture as well as I believe it is 60vg/40pg (but I can be off on that second mixture) I suggest the WTF! And the 70/30 mix works great with the fusion. I have noticed that as the juice gets older it gets darker and thicker. It still works good with the fusions, but when you put brand new juice in you notice a difference. The good news is you don't notice as the juice gets older until you get a fresh bottle!
 

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Kick Bass Vapors has some awesome flavors and they have a 70pg/30vg mixture as well as I believe it is 60vg/40pg (but I can be off on that second mixture) I suggest the WTF! And the 70/30 mix works great with the fusion. I have noticed that as the juice gets older it gets darker and thicker. It still works good with the fusions, but when you put brand new juice in you notice a difference. The good news is you don't notice as the juice gets older until you get a fresh bottle!


I definitely want to try some KBV juice as I've only heard good things. It sucks that Bass is having back issues and had to close the store. I hope he takes the time he needs to recover, but I definitely want some of his juice!
 

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I believe Moorea hit the nail on the head with her comparison of the Boge and fusion flavor. I use the go-go as my out and about device, as it fits easily in my front pants pocket. My personal comparison of the cartos based on flavor would be 1. go-go carto 2. Fusion 3. Boge. But the difference between the three of them is slight. Cons go-go is airy, fusions ,as 5C has stated, are juice hogs.
 
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I use a 50/50 blend and all I use are CE2's. 50/50 definitely works better in them then it did in filler cartos. I got 2 boxes of the CE2 Deluxe cartos, a box of clearos and a box of steels (on the way). Pasta, did you say you're using the clearos in your tank? Side note: BD syringe modded CE2's won't fit in the M1A1. The syringe is slightly too thick for it. The older style clearo tubes don't fit either. Just a slight bit too thick as well. The caps could be bored out a tiny bit to make them fit but it's not really worth the effort IMO.
 

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I use a 50/50 blend and all I use are CE2's. 50/50 definitely works better in them then it did in filler cartos. I got 2 boxes of the CE2 Deluxe cartos, a box of clearos and a box of steels (on the way). Pasta, did you say you're using the clearos in your tank? Side note: BD syringe modded CE2's won't fit in the M1A1. The syringe is slightly too thick for it. The older style clearo tubes don't fit either. Just a slight bit too thick as well. The caps could be bored out a tiny bit to make them fit but it's not really worth the effort IMO.

I have a bunch of the CE2 Deluxe XL's sitting here. I don't have the tanks yet, those should come next week. I'm not sure if the new Deluxe will fit in there, but it's worth a shot. If it works I'll probably order some higher ohm stuff for my BP! With the Arry tank I should be able to just take the CE2 out of the tube and slide it into the tank it all goes well. I'll get what ever works best for the M1A1 when it goes into production!
 

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I hated all things filler until I got a tank. I hated the hassel of dripping and the tank was my last ditch effort. As long as you keep your tank filled above your slots or holes the flavor in my opinion is consistent and the filler never tastes burnt as it always stays wet and never gets burnt!

As for which carto to use with a tank that is a personal choice. Like 5card I prefer the fusion. In my opinion there isn't a huge difference between the boge and the fusion. The reason I like the fusion more is because the draw is a little bit tighter on every fusion and boge I have tried. I think the flavor is a bit richer with the fusion. And finally with the fusion the tank won't slide down. My husband likes the looser draw on the boge and thinks the taste is better (see matter of personal opinion) but to him the difference wasn't enough to not use the fusions... he likes the fact that the tank doesn't slide down and flavor and draw wasn't enough not to use them!

I'm with you there. I've been stocking up on tanks while I'm waiting for this one to come out.
I hate that burnt filler taste, which I know is user error, but still.
I have one of Chopper's Cyclone Tanks for my Go-Go, and my main complaint with the Go-Go is the airy draw.
I wish I could match the battery life of my Go-Go on my BP. I'll have to try new batteries.

I'm glad I asked 5Card what the Fusions were.... I need to get some more!
I have noticed, with my BP, and here I go with technical terms again, I can go almost to the yellow with a Fusion and very rarely
get a burnt taste if I remember to top off when I should. But with my Boges, I have to be between the green and yellow. If I go any closer to yellow, it doesn't matter how much I top off, I'll get that burnt taste.
Have some 3.0s on order and a buddy making me a tank for them, seeing as how I'm tool challenged. I'm betting they'll work better than my 2.5s.

All in all, I prefer the Fusions.
Seems to me they would need a tank made just for them wouldn't they, as the threaded end is somewhat larger than a Boge?
Or would they work in this M1A1?
 

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Mike will know because I sent him some to try. The Fusions out of the tank were great but your right if you let them get dry you get a bad taste as with any carto but in a tank they are flawless. Unless you don't refill your tank. I haven't found anything that's better or I'd be using them. Now when I get my Blown and injected cartos patented then I will show you a carto. The hardest part was miniaturizing a GMC 671 blower to fit on the carto as you can see.

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I'm with you there. I've been stocking up on tanks while I'm waiting for this one to come out.
I hate that burnt filler taste, which I know is user error, but still.
I have one of Chopper's Cyclone Tanks for my Go-Go, and my main complaint with the Go-Go is the airy draw.
I wish I could match the battery life of my Go-Go on my BP. I'll have to try new batteries.

I'm glad I asked 5Card what the Fusions were.... I need to get some more!
I have noticed, with my BP, and here I go with technical terms again, I can go almost to the yellow with a Fusion and very rarely
get a burnt taste if I remember to top off when I should. But with my Boges, I have to be between the green and yellow. If I go any closer to yellow, it doesn't matter how much I top off, I'll get that burnt taste.
Have some 3.0s on order and a buddy making me a tank for them, seeing as how I'm tool challenged. I'm betting they'll work better than my 2.5s.

All in all, I prefer the Fusions.
Seems to me they would need a tank made just for them wouldn't they, as the threaded end is somewhat larger than a Boge?
Or would they work in this M1A1?

I am using the M1A1 prototype tank with an IKV fusion right now! :) Actually, the tube part of the protype was a little too long so I substituted a shorter piece of polycarbonate tube. With the Fusions you just need to have the tank "sit" on top of the large 801 thread portion. The diameter of the rest of the carto is the same as a 510 carto. Mike has stated that he will be offering 2 sizes of the M1A1 tank - one that will work for Fusions and most regular size cartos and a larger size that will work for Mega Cartos.
 

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I got my new CE2's today and drilled a couple holes in one to put in the M1. No leaks, no carto sliding, no dry hits. The carto slides in easily but it's snug enough so it doesn't leak. Filling was easy. I'm using a 3.1 ohm at 4.5v and the vapor is amazing. The draw is a bit tighter than I'm use to but I like that as it provides more vapor. I filled it with 4ml of liquid, which is just under the fill hole. So far I have no issues to report. Everything works as it should. More to come after I've emptied the tank.
 
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