The M1A1 Buzz Tank

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GMoney

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Whoo Hoo !!!!!!!

OK, It took me two tries but I found an O-ring that works with the Liquinator. First try was a 008 and it fit the 306 but was too thick to fit in the groove of the tank cap. I wnet back and got a 004 and it thins as it stretches over the 306 though I had to put it in top of cap first. I'm well past 40 hits and it works beautifully.

One hiccup ~ the hole size in the cart. I started with 2 holes with a big sewing needle. It worked perfect with juice in the picture. When I filled the tank half way, it leaked thru the batt hole. I put one hole in another cart and it really leaked bad. Then I took the first cart pushed on the inside to close the holes some and it didn't let enough juice in (I started feeling like Goldilocks LOL). I opened one of the hole and it's almost just right.

Well almost perfect, but still lovin' it :)


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BTW this is where a M1A1 would really be the ticket. It's a little more difficult to fill than using a carto........ CRAP, another thing I need to buy LOL !!!!
Great job Wharf!

I agree the M1A1 would be the way to go! If you can get this functioning 100% it would be best to just leave it in place and fill through the fill hole instead of sliding it up.

I got some 306's and got a tank working temporarily with some grommets. I got a dry hit in the beginning, then it was working Amazingly (although with a little gurgling but best vaping experience ever!), and then I noticed all my juice was leaking out through the atty connector(Not a tank leak). (glad I was testing it on a crap mod I made instead of filling my Buzz Pro with juice, lol)

My biggest fear is that this whole method is going to be completely eliquid viscosity dependent - that I will keep chasing the line between insufficient eliquid and leaking.(with cartos, once the "filler" is saturated it creates tension that stops further transfer of liquid from the tank into the carto)

I'll keep playing around with it and see if I can get it stable. It is amazing idea if some inherent problems can be worked around.

Thanks for all your input! (and thanks for your recommendations over on the IKV thread - I will try out some 2.5 Ohm i06's when they reopen.)
 

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You're right G$. If I fill the tank too much it leaks, although I'm finding dry hit it right after filling and put it back on my BP usually stops that. Still a work in progress.

That being said, rumors are that there is a vv top fed device that pretty much eliminates any need for a atty tank system. And the best part of all, it fits in the palm of your hand :thumbs:
 

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Thank you, Tracy ;).

IMO, on the future order, get the silver. One tank is not enough once you become accustomed to using them, anyways. :)

In the meanwhile, I have black on my Purple Classic/bronze caps and it looks good - the DT is what ties it together and/or sets it off; gold/bronze to match the caps; purple to go with the tube. It's all good ... and I imagine it will be the same with your Purple/Chrome and black tank with the right DT.

Girlie tank talk - love it! I feel like Moo! (just pickin' at ya again) LOL

Hey, I'm gone for a week and this is what I come back to.... I actually wasn't even going to keep reading as it was all getting to technical for me and giving me a head ache, I have no clue what you guys did and how you are making an atty work in the tank, but I am glad I kept reading or I would have missed you pickin' at me!

Speaking of Girlie Tank talk, anyone know what happened to kellie, it looks like almost a month since she has posted and she was happy to have Girlie PV talk with me... I miss that!

Tracy the silver tank is not a shiny silver, mine looks more of a matte grey. I agree with Pokey tho...you won't be happy with just one lol. Here's my BP with Mike's M1A1

Mark I love the fill port! But then I am always home so syringe filling is no big deal for me. I have even started using a syringe w/18gauge blunt to fill my Liquinators. Pop the carto down, shoot the juice in, slide it back home and done :) (boy is that UTC fodder!!)

Strange, as easy as the liquinator was to fill I recently started using a syringe to fill it as well!
 

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It seems the trick to these atty tanks is to have a way to adjust the juice flow. It makes sense due to all the varied pg/vg liquid mixes available. It's been done already, by someone who makes very overpriced mods, and that's how the idea works in those. It seems MWA has got that figured out with the use of a delrin tube with holes punched in it. He has the holes punched in the same area as he has them on the atty cover and twists the delrin tube to adjust flow.
 

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It seems the trick to these atty tanks is to have a way to adjust the juice flow. It makes sense due to all the varied pg/vg liquid mixes available. It's been done already, by someone who makes very overpriced mods, and that's how the idea works in those. It seems MWA has got that figured out with the use of a delrin tube with holes punched in it. He has the holes punched in the same area as he has them on the atty cover and twists the delrin tube to adjust flow.

Ahh. I had actually thought of doing something like that(an extra tube with holes that could be turned to reveal or cover larger or smaller holes ) to adjust flow - I hadn't realized that was MWA was doing with the extra delrin tube.

I agree though, It is imperative to have adjustable flow with an "Atty Tank". Besides the Thickness differences in PG and VG, temperature changes would also have an effect on viscosity. This might not matter as much in California but for us, Mod, it could be a big deal, lol.
 

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We have the opposite but the same problem G$. When it's 100º and 130º in the car it messes with our juice :)

And lucky us catch it from both ends - near and below freezing in the winter; and a 100+ in the summer. It messes with your head as well as your juice. Just sayin' what you guys have already figured out no doubt, lol ... :)
 

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Moo! :) :)

Aren't you glad you peeked in? You never know where a NC thread where lead you - and you'll never know for sure where I'll find the chance to give you a poke...:D

I have not heard from Kellie, BTW. :( I am sure you are missing her...and I hope all is well her way.

Syringe filling keeps it clean and simple - less likely to accidentally pour juice directly into the carto itself and allows for more juice to be placed within the tank at one time, IMO. I do it with whatever way I have easiest on hand at the moment, though. I am lazy and when a tank needs filling the moment is now - I don't go looking for stuff if it isn't sitting about...

But I always remove my tank from the PV whilst filling - I can be a sloppy filler as I am a sloppy dripper and hate for juice to get all over the Buzz...not only is it a sticky mess, it can cause troubles for the device itself...I have learned that the hard way. ;)
 

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It seems the trick to these atty tanks is to have a way to adjust the juice flow. It makes sense due to all the varied pg/vg liquid mixes available. It's been done already, by someone who makes very overpriced mods, and that's how the idea works in those. It seems MWA has got that figured out with the use of a delrin tube with holes punched in it. He has the holes punched in the same area as he has them on the atty cover and twists the delrin tube to adjust flow.

An additional delrin tube over the cart - all within the tank?

I am behind on his thread...and need to catch up, apparently.

Have you run into this trouble, Wharf? I know your preference for BWB, a somewhat thicker juice than most - have you been able to compensate or re-work this idea with the i06? Or has it been necessary yet to do so?
 

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I asked mwa how he turns the sleeve and he said it's a press fit and it just turns? I still don't understand how that works.

Pokey I'm trying to get the right size hole. Even with BWB I still don't have it small enough. And I'm still using 306. I haven't tried the i06 because it seems there is leaking problems trying to piece together enough length.
 

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Moo! :) :)

Aren't you glad you peeked in? You never know where a NC thread where lead you - and you'll never know for sure where I'll find the chance to give you a poke...:D

I have not heard from Kellie, BTW. :( I am sure you are missing her...and I hope all is well her way.

Syringe filling keeps it clean and simple - less likely to accidentally pour juice directly into the carto itself and allows for more juice to be placed within the tank at one time, IMO. I do it with whatever way I have easiest on hand at the moment, though. I am lazy and when a tank needs filling the moment is now - I don't go looking for stuff if it isn't sitting about...

But I always remove my tank from the PV whilst filling - I can be a sloppy filler as I am a sloppy dripper and hate for juice to get all over the Buzz...not only is it a sticky mess, it can cause troubles for the device itself...I have learned that the hard way. ;)

Yes, I am glad I stuck it out and read all those pages as a poke from pokey always puts a smile on my face. And yes going back to the syringe has made the process cleaner.

I don't know why trying to follow your quest to use an atty in a tank is scrambling my brain... but I am hoping once all the kinks are worked out, you will provide me with EASY step by step directions using small words and pictures!
 

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I don't know why trying to follow your quest to use an atty in a tank is scrambling my brain... but I am hoping once all the kinks are worked out, you will provide me with EASY step by step directions using small words and pictures!

My dear Moo,
If I ever work it out and convert it to easy step-by-steps with small words and pictures I promise to share it with you...pinky swear. :)
 
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