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Flitzanu

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The book has to at least be partially symbolic, I don't think there will be actual seven headed dragons and the such; so if it has to be all or nothing then yea it is symbolic.

no, what i'm getting at is, the parts that ARE symbolic are described within the book as BEING symbolic, and those things are elaborated within the context.

but on the subject, does that mean you believe the other vials and beasts released on the earth are going to be symbolic or literal?
 

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no, what i'm getting at is, the parts that ARE symbolic are described within the book as BEING symbolic, and those things are elaborated within the context.

but on the subject, does that mean you believe the other vials and beasts released on the earth are going to be symbolic or literal?

Ahh now I understand your point better. It's been awhile since I've even read Revelations, so could you be more specific to what you are referring to? Maybe I'll have to do some Revelations reading tonight and I'll be able to give a better answer then off the top of my head having not read or studied the book in quite some time.
 

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I clicked on the link and read the info. I can see where the idea is going, but I think the website author is splitting hair by trying to differentiate between "the mark, the number of the mark, and the number of his name." IMHO, I think those three are one and the same, not separate as the author states. But I'm not a scholar!

IMHO what it comes down to: Don't willingly accept ANYTHING that will mark the forehead or the right hand, regardless of what it may be.

I've heard some who say the mark will be our social security numbers. But there is one problem with that. The United States is the only country to issue SS #'s. It is unique to America. Whatever the technology, it would have to be something that is easily trackable, identifiable, and unique to each person. World wide.

I think it will have some connection to dna, which is unique to every person. Maybe like a bio-chip encoded with your own unique dna "signature", and a world-wide database just for those "signatures".

I am SO THANKFUL I am a Christian!!!!!!!

There is even some debate among Christians as to when the Rapture will occur: Pre-tribulation, Mid-tribulation, or Post-tribulation.

Stop the debate, and GET READY! None of us will know until it actually happens anyway.
 

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I am SO THANKFUL I am a Christian!!!!!!!

There is even some debate among Christians as to when the Rapture will occur: Pre-tribulation, Mid-tribulation, or Post-tribulation.

Stop the debate, and GET READY! None of us will know until it actually happens anyway.

Me too! I'm so excited to meet Jesus that I can't wait! Well, I can wait, but I'm looking forward to that day so much. I really hope He tells me that I did a job well done with this life. I"m still a work in progress, as we all are.

:):):)
 

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I used to think much the same way: microchip, rfid, cerbral cortex/frontal lobe implant with control and web connectivity. I come from hardline baptist/methodist people and they all believe these are end times.

My opinion has changed.

What is our metric of end times? Shortly after Jesus departed people sold their possessions and sat on hill tops to await his return. Rome fell and it was the end of the world. The Dark Ages happened and monks thought that the world was ending and falling into chaos. The plague years occurred and it was the pale horse. The protestant reformation was the Beast for the Catholics. In 1666 London burned and the plague was around and it was still end times. Great Awakenings I-III were thought to be the end by some. The Seventh Day Adventists were founded on a specific date for the end of the world.

My gut tells me this is the end times.

My logic tells me that:
1. Every generation thinks this is the end, why would mine be correct?
2. Depravity of humanity is not worse: Rome with its slave markets, pederasty, religious prostitution. Human sacrifice of the bog people in Europe. The Nazi's.
3. Some of the contortions used to apply Revelation to modern geo-politics are extreme, especially the Lehay stuff.
4. Revelation promises me wisdom, not actually understanding of it.
5. The best case for Revelation's fulfillment can be made for the fall of Rome.

I think the end may occur next week, or 10,000 years from now in a war against Alpha Centauri. The end of My World is not neccsarily the end of The World.

Please don't think that I'm being irrervrant or contentious. It's just that I now view Revelation, in large part, as God's Holy Stream of Concioussness. :D
 

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My husband and I have had this debate as well. IMHO, one of the reasons I believe these are the end times, and perhaps the most important reason is we are on the verge of a cashless society. Paper currency will become obsolete and/or worthless. We are already a global financial society. You can get online and order something from Britain, China, or even the middle east.
IMHO, it won't be long before there is just one world currency. But in order for that to happen, the present system would have to collapse and become defunct or no longer viable. Then the rest will follow. Looking at the financial news, I believe we are well on our way to that end.
 

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Gold has a been a world wide currency for a long time, depends on how you look at it. At the time Revelation was written Roman currency was a "worldwide" currency.

It was common for slaves and soldiers to branded or tattooed. Either on the hand or arm, facial marking was done as a punishment. The mark of the Beast had cultural relevance to the young church. They could see the Roman Empire eating everyone and everything around them.

However, 5cardstud, I agree, we just won't know the hour or day when He's coming back. So we'd better be ready.
 

trukinlady

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I'm thinking one world currency where you can buy something in another country, and not have to worry about rate conversion. A "dollar" will be the same wherever you are. My husband has said that about the Roman Empire, but IMHO their empire never did reach worldwide like we are today. The Romans had no knowledge of America, or Alaska, or Guam. Their empire didn't reach that far, as far as I know.
But all we can do is prepare as best we can if, indeed, these are the end times.
 

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Jesus got it right, I believe. No way to know for sure when it's gonna happen. Just get saved and don't worry--you won't be here when it happens.


Amen! I'm so thankful I'm a Christian! :nun: God isn't finished with me yet!

It seems like God is putting me through an accelerated growth period. My faith, understanding, and knowledge have increased by leaps and bounds in the last few years. I read verses of the Bible I've read many times, and I have a deeper understanding than before. Its amazing! Praise God!!!!
I've been a Christian since I was 16, but back slid for several years. God brought me back to Him! I'm so very thankful for that! I experienced what the "world" had to offer, and I finally realized I wanted no part of it anymore.
I look at what is happening around the world today, and I feel deep in my spirit God is telling me to BE READY! For whatever happens!
 

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Check this out, I found this last night!~


The mark may be a microchip assembly which will be implanted under the skin of the right hand. Later on, the mark will be implanted under the forehead, The microchip assembly, called radio frequency identification (RFID) is already used in animals. In dogs, the RFID is placed between the shoulder blades, and in birds it is implanted under the wing. Now there is one for humans called VeriChip™. which was approved by the FDA on October 13th, 2004. Applied Digital Solutions wants to market this chip to be used by doctors and hospitals to keep track of medical records.

This certainly may be the Mark of the Beast.

Here is another possibility: E Commerce Invisible bar code tattoo.

RFID tattoo mark of the beast technology is here now.

Here is a method for verifying human identity during electronic sale transactions.

A patent has been issued for a technique enabling an invisible tattoo to be placed under the skin of a consumer purchasing goods and services online, according to a report published by computer giant Compaq.

The patented procedure, titled, "Method For Verifying Human Identity During Electronic Sale Transactions," was developed by Houston inventor Thomas W. Heeter. His patent - bearing U.S. Patent No. 5,878,155 and granted in March 1999, "describes how people can be identified for E Commerce transactions by invisible barcodes tattooed on their skin." The patent identifies invisible tattoo ink that is currently available commercially, according to the Compaq report.

According to Heeter's abstract, "a barcode or a design is tattooed on an individual. Before the sales transaction can be consummated, the tattoo is scanned with a scanner."

"Characteristics about the scanned tattoo are compared to characteristics about other tattoos stored on a computer database in order to verify the identity of the buyer," the abstract says. "'Once verified, the seller may be authorized to debit the buyer's electronic bank account in order to consummate the transaction. The seller's electronic bank account may be similarly updated."

RFID tattoo mark of the beast technology is here today.

Did you know that Saint Louis based Somark Innovations successfully tested an "RFID tattoo" on cows and rats? Yes indeed, tattoo, not the ol' RFID chip found in passports, dogs, and Dutch VIP clubbers. Somark's system uses an array of needles to inject a passive RFID ink which can be read through the hair on your choice of beast. The ink can be either invisible or colored but Somark is keeping mum as to its exact contents. They only say that it doesn't contain any metals and is 100% biocompatible and chemically inert. The tattoo can be applied in 5 to 10 seconds with no shaving involved and can be read from up to 4 feet away - the bigger the tattoo, the more information stored. Best of it all, it's apparently safe for humans to ingest allowing the FDA to track back Mad Cow Disease, e-coli outbreaks, and Soylent Green. Don't worry, they can't track you just as long as you chew your food like mama taught. However, with "military personnel" listed as Somark's "secondary target market," well, it's just a matter of time before we're all cattle now isn't it.

SOMARK Labstamp - Automated Tail Tattoos for Mouse ID

RFID tattoo mark of the beast technology is here

Somark Mark of the Beast
 

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Check this out, I found this last night!~


The mark may be a microchip assembly which will be implanted under the skin of the right hand. Later on, the mark will be implanted under the forehead, The microchip assembly, called radio frequency identification (RFID) is already used in animals. In dogs, the RFID is placed between the shoulder blades, and in birds it is implanted under the wing. Now there is one for humans called VeriChip™. which was approved by the FDA on October 13th, 2004. Applied Digital Solutions wants to market this chip to be used by doctors and hospitals to keep track of medical records.

This certainly may be the Mark of the Beast.

Here is another possibility: E Commerce Invisible bar code tattoo.

RFID tattoo mark of the beast technology is here now.

Here is a method for verifying human identity during electronic sale transactions.

A patent has been issued for a technique enabling an invisible tattoo to be placed under the skin of a consumer purchasing goods and services online, according to a report published by computer giant Compaq.

The patented procedure, titled, "Method For Verifying Human Identity During Electronic Sale Transactions," was developed by Houston inventor Thomas W. Heeter. His patent - bearing U.S. Patent No. 5,878,155 and granted in March 1999, "describes how people can be identified for E Commerce transactions by invisible barcodes tattooed on their skin." The patent identifies invisible tattoo ink that is currently available commercially, according to the Compaq report.

According to Heeter's abstract, "a barcode or a design is tattooed on an individual. Before the sales transaction can be consummated, the tattoo is scanned with a scanner."

"Characteristics about the scanned tattoo are compared to characteristics about other tattoos stored on a computer database in order to verify the identity of the buyer," the abstract says. "'Once verified, the seller may be authorized to debit the buyer's electronic bank account in order to consummate the transaction. The seller's electronic bank account may be similarly updated."

RFID tattoo mark of the beast technology is here today.

Did you know that Saint Louis based Somark Innovations successfully tested an "RFID tattoo" on cows and rats? Yes indeed, tattoo, not the ol' RFID chip found in passports, dogs, and Dutch VIP clubbers. Somark's system uses an array of needles to inject a passive RFID ink which can be read through the hair on your choice of beast. The ink can be either invisible or colored but Somark is keeping mum as to its exact contents. They only say that it doesn't contain any metals and is 100% biocompatible and chemically inert. The tattoo can be applied in 5 to 10 seconds with no shaving involved and can be read from up to 4 feet away - the bigger the tattoo, the more information stored. Best of it all, it's apparently safe for humans to ingest allowing the FDA to track back Mad Cow Disease, e-coli outbreaks, and Soylent Green. Don't worry, they can't track you just as long as you chew your food like mama taught. However, with "military personnel" listed as Somark's "secondary target market," well, it's just a matter of time before we're all cattle now isn't it.

SOMARK Labstamp - Automated Tail Tattoos for Mouse ID

RFID tattoo mark of the beast technology is here

Somark Mark of the Beast
 

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It was suggested that parents put a tracking system in a cip under the skin of their children. I myself don't worry about the mark or the day but instead worry about remaining worthy in Gods eyes. I let him be my protector and I try, but could try harder, to do the lords work. The problem I have is I don't want to be to pushy and alienate someone. I believe if we follow Gods comandments, do his work and love and help our fellow human beings God will protect and Deliver us through Jesus.
 

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It was suggested that parents put a tracking system in a cip under the skin of their children. I myself don't worry about the mark or the day but instead worry about remaining worthy in Gods eyes. I let him be my protector and I try, but could try harder, to do the lords work. The problem I have is I don't want to be to pushy and alienate someone. I believe if we follow Gods comandments, do his work and love and help our fellow human beings God will protect and Deliver us through Jesus.

That's true, we should not worry, but rely on God to see us through. But, we do need to be aware of what the mark of the beast is so that we do not accept it. Once you accept it, there is no going back, so it's important to know.
 
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