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[wv2win]

We all?

We all is a small fraction of the vaping community pursuing the perfect vaping experience without regard to form factor.
Or anything else for that matter.

To think you guys on this thread are representative of the vaping community at large is absurd, to be perfectly honest.

Well, let's see, I never said that those of us on this thread were representative of the vaping community, those are your words. But since you decided to "cherry pick" only one part of my post, I clearly stated that I was talking about those of us discussing the Darwin on this thread. What is ABSURD is your attempt to misrepresent what I said. If you don't like the Darwin that's your privilage. It's "telling" that you keep attacking the Darwin even though you have never used it or seen it up close. And I believe there is ample evidence of my point that mod PV's come in all shapes and sizes and many that were considered "strange" initially by members on this forum, have become quite popular.

Personally, I think people who decorate their mods with team logos is tacky and denote a trashy trailer park look but I'm sure there are those who have that kind of taste. I won't go around and attack it since I've never seen one up close.

 

[Zen~]

Personally, I think people who decorate their mods with team logos is tacky and denote a trashy trailer park look but I'm sure there are those who have that kind of taste. I won't go around and attack it since I've never seen one up close.

You kinda just did....

 

[DC2]

Well, let's see, I never said that those of us on this thread were representative of the vaping community, those are your words. But since you decided to "cherry pick" only one part of my post, I clearly stated that I was talking about those of us discussing the Darwin on this thread. What is ABSURD is your attempt to misrepresent what I said. If you don't like the Darwin that's your privilage. It's "telling" that you keep attacking the Darwin even though you have never used it or seen it up close. And I believe there is ample evidence of my point that mod PV's come in all shapes and sizes and many that were considered "strange" initially by members on this forum, have become quite popular.

Sorry I misunderstood your use of the terms "we all" so there you go.
And yeah, I cherry picked those words, because they sounded focused on a certain group.

But if you meant all of "us" on this thread, then your comments are random and meaningless.
They don't reperesnt more than a handful of vapers.

I thought you were making a larger point.
I guess you weren't trying to, which is what I was hoping for.

Personally, I think people who decorate their mods with team logos is tacky and denote a trashy trailer park look but I'm sure there are those who have that kind of taste. I won't go around and attack it since I've never seen one up close.

Hilarious comment, given your avatar.

If you have a problem with San Diego, just let me know.
I'll send someone to dig you out.

 

[wv2win]

Sorry, you're wrong. It is simply a matter of math an physics. Look at my post history, especially in the original Darwin threads. I know how to measure it. The resistance increases slightly thus affecting the voltage required to keep the draw consistent. It is not a big swing when you're only measuring to the hundredth place. Do the math. Write down your resistance changes as you vape. It is right there for you. Check the voltage variations required to keep the wattage consistent to the hundredth place. It is not what you think.

There is a difference. You can argue as to how much of a difference from a "physics" standpoint. What you can't argue with is those of us who vaped on a Darwin and have the experience with many other PV's (in my case 15, mostly mods) as a comparison point. The consistency is apparent and obvious and superior. So unless you have vaped on many different VV and HV mods and have also vaped on a Darwin, you are basically just talking out of your back end and your viewpoint has minimal relevance.

 

[wv2win]

Sorry I misunderstood your use of the terms "we all" so there you go.

Hilarious comment, given your avatar.

No, because it's not on my PV. I would not wear a WVU shirt to work or to church, either, because that is trashy, IMO, kind of like having it on your PV.

 

[DC2]

No, because it's not on my PV. I would not wear a WVU shirt to work or to church, either, because that is trashy, IMO, kind of like having it on your PV.

Okay, so your pride in community extends only so far.

I guess you should define how far you are willing to go to show that pride.
I seem to be at a loss as to understand what is appropriate in your world, and I wouldn't want you to think of me as trailer trash.

 

[benjayman2]

Awww boys and girls we came here to nominate our favorite high end PVs not detract and put down others and their choices. I guess it was inevitable since i prophesied it would happen

here we go...........

 

[IndustrialAction]

There is a difference. You can argue as to how much of a difference from a "physics" standpoint. What you can't argue with is those of us who vaped on a Darwin and have the experience with many other PV's (in my case 15, mostly mods) as a comparison point. The consistency is apparent and obvious and superior. So unless you have vaped on many different VV and HV mods and have also vaped on a Darwin, you are basically just talking out of your back end and your viewpoint has minimal relevance.

Please stop acting like a ...... Read my post history. Seriously. I know what I'm talking about. You don't. Get informed, then we can continue this.

 

[Jackinkc]

Who said anything about budgets? Should we talk about penis size next? Money isn't the issue, spending it on a device that is ugly and isn't as sophisticated as many believe it to be, is.

Again, IAction. When you say it's not worth the money, you are referring it is not worth it to you, correct? You being the math guy you are, I'm curious as to how you can make a blanket statement that it's not worth the money to anybody. I doubt you meant that though, maybe it's just the way you wrote it.

 

[dspin]

Being able to change or not change the battery is a deal breaker for me. I must be able to have that access

Also can you change the battery in the darwin? If not that is the stupidest idea I have ever heard of....a 200+$ mod with a battery that is guaranteed to die.

 

[ukeman]

I have noticed on the Darwin, the atty resistance going up... and of course the Darwin adjusts... the way i use it, so far i have a ton of reg. joye attys (2.2 Ohm) which are pretty versatile, and just a few higher res. attys... i'm not noticing it as an obvious advantage, but good to know that it's doing the work for me.

 

[ukeman]

I said i have both...
Please, ".... ugly" ... it's one thing to discuss the merits of the function (objectivity anyone?).

But form... hey "beauty is what beauty does"... that's my motto... quit mixing subjective into the equation if you are trying to be serious... and money is serious.

Darwin does what the Provari does and then some... I assume it's priced according to production costs and a similar profit margin... if they could have produced it cheaper and still retain quality it would possibly be lower... what i'm saying is... you gotta pay to play and investors want to sell in volume.

I never got the raves over a cylinder in the first place. I actually like the look of the Darwin myself... it's a forking rectangle for gads sake. so what? I happen to like rectangles. and who knows what the Eclipse will look like?

Hey i have 2 Phidias' and the builder says he formulates every dang part of it according to the "golden mean"... I love how it looks now that he's slimmed the boxiness out of it but it's the vape that one gets that makes it the best 3.7 pv out there (imo). Check it out... btw I didn't see one in the Col.'s collection... if so, tisk tisk.

Now if you ask me, that tank thing is monstrous looking, (it's almost bigger than the Provari !). but if i thought it would improve my experience, i'd be on it.

 

[Filthy-Beast]

Let's clear up a misconception on the Darwin battery. It has clearly been stated that you can replace the battery with the use of a soldering iron. If you own an ohm meter I bet you can use a soldering iron. However if you don't feel comfortable using one you can always send it in.

 

[Para]

not worth the price, IMO.

ditch the LCD screen and give me longer battery life.

If you need longer than a couple of days before charging, live closer to an electrical outlet......

 

[beetlespin]

If you need longer than a couple of days before charging, live closer to an electrical outlet......

Do you have a darwin and if yes whats your opinion? O for the ones that say looks are not important well thats your opinion.

 

[Para]

Do you have a darwin and if yes whats your opinion? O for the ones that say looks are not important well thats your opinion.

Here's your answers...
Yes, I do.
It's the best vaping experience I've had with any PV; nothing else comes close....period.

 

[beetlespin]

Here's your answers...
Yes, I do.
It's the best vaping experience I've had with any PV; nothing else comes close....period.

You have also used the provari and what your opinion on it?

 

[wv2win]

Please stop acting like a ...... Read my post history. Seriously. I know what I'm talking about. You don't. Get informed, then we can continue this.

Not only do you talk out of your hind quarter but now you resort to name calling. Quite mature. And you do not know what you are talking about when it comes to the actual performance of a device if you have not used it. Thinking otherwise is a fool's errand.

 

[IndustrialAction]

Again, IAction. When you say it's not worth the money, you are referring it is not worth it to you, correct? You being the math guy you are, I'm curious as to how you can make a blanket statement that it's not worth the money to anybody. I doubt you meant that though, maybe it's just the way you wrote it.

Ok, you're correct, I was not making a blanket statement about it not being worth the money to anyone, just me. I don't speak for anyone else and I didn't intend for it to come across that way.

IMO, the top mods are (in no particular order) the Precious Lv2 (assuming anyone ever gets one), the Eclipse Eq (assuming Shad0w finishes it and brings it to market), the ProVari, the Darwin and possibly the Infinity.

With the Precious, you get a designer that doesn't have time for his creation. He rarely gives updates and has passed production along to his friend "Mark". With the Darwin, you get updates from lots of people but the designers NEVER make an appearance to talk about their product. The designers/producers of the Eclipse, ProVari and Infinity regularly update the community. That goes a long way in my book.

If the Precious Lv2 comes out, it could be the best mod built (LINK)

The Eclipse Eq has impressive stats (LINK)

The ProVari is on the market now and has quite a few features and there are new options being announced soon(LINK)

The Darwin has its own innovative approach, it just isn't for me personally (LINK)

The Infinity is a cool option for those looking for a slim VV mod but falls short for me (LINK)

 

[IndustrialAction]

Not only do you talk out of your hind quarter but now you resort to name calling. Quite mature. And you do not know what you are talking about when it comes to the actual performance of a device if you have not used it. Thinking otherwise is a fool's errand.

Did I ever state that I've never tried a Darwin?