I am thinking of asking a Chinese friend to phone e-cig.com and change my order to something they can get. e-cig.com has US$105 of my money. Anybody here got any ideas what to change my order to. It seems strange to me though that they advertise them like they got plenty of them maybe they trying to do a bulk order from a factory and need more people to buy so they can get discount or maybe they just very dishonest.
The new E-MiniCig frome-cig.com looks to me identical to the Loong Totem
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I Placed an order with e-cig.com for the new mini-cig , type N2 on 10-19-08, received email order confirmation on 10-19-08 stating order received and shipment will be made within 7-10 days. It's now 10 days with no further email from e-cig.com on my order status. Well, I am not Chinese, but I do speak and write Chinese, so I called them today and spoke to a supervisor. I was advised, this product is in stock, but due to large order volumes, shipments for the N2's are running between 10-20 days. He assured me my shipment will be made within the next 2 days.
Note to all, (I am not at this point yet with e-cig.com, but I will go there after due diligence): If you are having problems dealing with any company importing products into the US marketplace, file a complaint with the USITC. Specify in your complaint the exact name of the company (correct spelling is essential), brief nature of complaint (less than 100 words), dates of contact. If the number of complaints against any importing company reaches the established threshold (# varies depending on product category), a formal investigation is launched, and the company could be barred from importing into the US marketplace.
Will keep this post updated, as things progress....
Note to all, (I am not at this point yet with e-cig.com, but I will go there after due diligence): If you are having problems dealing with any company importing products into the US marketplace, file a complaint with the USITC. Specify in your complaint the exact name of the company (correct spelling is essential), brief nature of complaint (less than 100 words), dates of contact. If the number of complaints against any importing company reaches the established threshold (# varies depending on product category), a formal investigation is launched, and the company could be barred from importing into the US marketplace.
Will keep this post updated, as things progress....
As i know this is a business deception from e-cig.com. 
They just copy picutures from other website, however, e-cig does not
have capacity to provide the newest mini e-cigarette to everybody. What
e-cig.com offer just some old type electronic cigarette.
They just copy picutures from other website, however, e-cig does not
have capacity to provide the newest mini e-cigarette to everybody. What
e-cig.com offer just some old type electronic cigarette.
i dont think there is deliberate dishonesty.. i think perhaps loong totem have hit them with a legal issue..
but they have peoples money for something they cant supply.. their real crime is not answering there f-cking email in my books..
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okay some honest talk..
YOYO Joins.
YOYO Says:
Hello, is there anything I can help you with today?
You Say:
hello yoyo you are abiout to hit big rouble over these new minis.. whats the problem.. honest answer please
YOYO Says:
Did you place the order with New E-minicig?
We are lack of cartridges for New E-minicig
We still waiting for the material to arrive
Customers placed many orders on it, we do'n
You Say:
yes i did and so did other people.. over five weeks ago.. none seem to have been delivered
YOYO Says:
We don't have enough stock to fullfill all the orders...
You Say:
i guessed that.. but people are not being told.. when will the stock arrive
YOYO Says:
The cartridges will arrive next week as they told me.
Once the cartridges are ready, we can send all the orders.
Sorry for the inconvinence
You Say:
yes but its probably not ture..he he.. people are making noises on the forums.. is it just the carts
YOYO Says:
I can not tell the exact time when it will arrive...we are also hurry to get the cartridges...
You Say:
okay yoyo i know it not your fualt
thanks
YOYO Says:
Thank you very much for your understanding...If we have it, we would have sent it
sorry for that
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trog
but they have peoples money for something they cant supply.. their real crime is not answering there f-cking email in my books..
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okay some honest talk..
YOYO Joins.
YOYO Says:
Hello, is there anything I can help you with today?
You Say:
hello yoyo you are abiout to hit big rouble over these new minis.. whats the problem.. honest answer please
YOYO Says:
Did you place the order with New E-minicig?
We are lack of cartridges for New E-minicig
We still waiting for the material to arrive
Customers placed many orders on it, we do'n
You Say:
yes i did and so did other people.. over five weeks ago.. none seem to have been delivered
YOYO Says:
We don't have enough stock to fullfill all the orders...
You Say:
i guessed that.. but people are not being told.. when will the stock arrive
YOYO Says:
The cartridges will arrive next week as they told me.
Once the cartridges are ready, we can send all the orders.
Sorry for the inconvinence
You Say:
yes but its probably not ture..he he.. people are making noises on the forums.. is it just the carts
YOYO Says:
I can not tell the exact time when it will arrive...we are also hurry to get the cartridges...
You Say:
okay yoyo i know it not your fualt
thanks
YOYO Says:
Thank you very much for your understanding...If we have it, we would have sent it
sorry for that###
trog
This quote is so funny and coincidental:
My brainiest granddaughter is taking Chinese at her school. She hit us with a few phrases the other night. I told her the big one she needs to learn is "It not our fault."
She promised to ask the teacher how to say that critical phrase needed by all E-Cig employees.
My brainiest granddaughter is taking Chinese at her school. She hit us with a few phrases the other night. I told her the big one she needs to learn is "It not our fault."
She promised to ask the teacher how to say that critical phrase needed by all E-Cig employees.
it not in my head dude its real.. actuall talk.. typos and all... he he he
copy and paste..
bugger all is in my head dude its empty... he he
trog
ps... and i did remarkably well getting that much out of yoyo..
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I made an order for the mini on the 5th October and received a email confirming the order but have had no communication since. After over 2 weeks and no delivery I wrote canceling my order. The money hasn't been refunded in over a week - though they took the money out on the same day the order was made.
I'll be chasing this up.
I'll be chasing this up.
My name is Sasha and I am from the USA. This is my first post after a lot of reading. My New Minicig arrived Monday. This is NOT an advertisement, I hate the "reviews" as much as you do. My e-cig history:
1: Heaven_gifts super mini. Great vapor the first day, after a month not much.
2: e-cig.com mini (black). " " " " , after 2 weeks not much.
3: Jane's Janty Yentl clone. " " " " , after 2 months not much.
4: Janty yentl Kissbox. " " " " , after 4 months not much.
5: E-cig.com New Minicig. Billowing clouds of vape the first day, first cartridge lasted 30 hours with moderate vaping, battery lasted 10 hours at a clip, billowing clouds of vape every time I screw in a new cartridge.
My first experience with E-cig.com: They took my money for the 2 minis with express shipping very willingly, I sat and waited for a month and recieved the cigs. Mini number 2's atomizer went kaput the first day, steel wool came off the bridge. No response to emails. Ever. Took my lumps and went home. Never planned to order from them again.
So I ordered from them again, as I love the idea of a fresh atomizer every day, and Loongtotem's prices, although competitive, did not make me want to pay $100,000,000 for shipping and still get only one battery. So, e-cig took my money willingly for the large package (2 batteries, charger, and 84 carts). Immediately I got an email stating that they would dispatch my order in 3-5 business days. Five weeks later, I got my "large" package. They had sent FOUR carts, instead of EIGHTY-FOUR. Arrrrrrgggggghhhhhh. Not again. No response to emails. Crossing fingers. Something tells me they will send the carts, as earlier in this thread it was mentioned that the carts are what is holding them back.
So, believe it or not, I am HAPPY. Build quality is excellent, not like the minis I got from them. Packaging is the same, if not more efficient (smaller box). USB charger is a bonus, allowing me to pocket a charge source that I can use anywhere. I carry a small (1350mah, 3.7V) litium emergency brick made to charge cellphones, and I figure I could charge for a week or two with it... So I screwed it together and wow, it is TINY. The smallest and thinnest cig I have owned. It is also very light, allowing it to be held like a real analog cig, and almost light enough to dangle from the lips. But not quite. Took a draw (a very, very easy draw) and BAM!!! Enough smoke to choke a horse. Like I said, I smoked the first cartridge for 30 hours without topping off at all. Vape was pretty consistent, only trailing off a little in the last hour or so of vaping. Not wanting to barbeque the paper coil, I opened the cart and filled it with some Ruyan No. 4 (yum!). I am still using the first cart today (Saturday) with no problems. Five days on one cart. Nice.
I know a lot of you are calling BS. But this is what I have found in a somewhat bittersweet experience. E-cig's customer service is the worst I have ever experienced, making me feel like I have been outright scammed at times, picturing them laughing amidst a confetti parade made up of my plentiful US dollars. But I cannot deny that this cig is the BEST I have ever used, producing more vape on the fifth day than any of the others did on their first day.
There are a few advantages to this design that I will point out:
1: Obviously, a new atomizer with each cart gives "new e-cig" vape every time you switch in a new cart.
2: This cart can hold easily 4 to 5 times more liquid, because there are no "inner" cartridges taking up space, no separate mouthpieces, and the walls of the cart, being metal, are MUCH thinner.
3: Instead of the atomizer being at the very bottom of the cart, the coil is smack dab in the middle of the cart, so it draws liquid in from all angles. The old style carts would dry up at the atomizer end, with a bunch of unused juice trapped in the upper half. This cart uses ALL the juice. Hence, my 30 hour claim seems to make sense now...
4: Because of the design, the carts do not get hot, only warm.
5: The channel for air to flow from the battery to the mouthpiece is fairly large, allowing for a very easy draw.
6: There are no "slots" where the battery and cart interface (all the air is drawn through the battery instead of being mixed at the battery/cart connection). This allows one to hold the cig with the fingers without the fear of blocking these holes and burning out the atomizer.
7: Everything is allowed to be much more compact. I like to travel light.
8: No gurgling. A quiet cig is a stealthy cig. Good luch trying to conceal the stratocumulous clouds of vapor though...
I think that's it...
You may notice that my New Minicig looks a bit different than the pictures you have seen... I was filling the cart and made a mess so I decided to peel the "label" off the cart. Underneath was a beautiful satin finish steel. So I decided to lathe off the pain on the batteries using a dremel. Looks nice I think. I also smoothed the plastic "ash" on the ends of the batteries. I then replaced the somewat loose rubber cap on the cart with another battery end (cannibalized from an e-cig mini battery) that has a hole drilled in the center. I LOVE the finished product. It looks a lot less like a cigarette, so I should get a lot less "excuse me sir, there is NO SMOKING in this establishment/ flying fortress...
Last pic is ALL I have to carry to smoke all day (other than the cig itself). Spare battery and cart go in a slimline aluminum case with the "rubbers" on to keep things from rattling. The "stick" in the picture is a length of 0.8mm carbon fiber rod with a grommett on the end, for removing the rubber endcaps of the carts, and to clear the draw channel of any stray liquid...
Hope you guys liked my New Minicig review/ rant/ rave!!!
1: Heaven_gifts super mini. Great vapor the first day, after a month not much.
2: e-cig.com mini (black). " " " " , after 2 weeks not much.
3: Jane's Janty Yentl clone. " " " " , after 2 months not much.
4: Janty yentl Kissbox. " " " " , after 4 months not much.
5: E-cig.com New Minicig. Billowing clouds of vape the first day, first cartridge lasted 30 hours with moderate vaping, battery lasted 10 hours at a clip, billowing clouds of vape every time I screw in a new cartridge.
My first experience with E-cig.com: They took my money for the 2 minis with express shipping very willingly, I sat and waited for a month and recieved the cigs. Mini number 2's atomizer went kaput the first day, steel wool came off the bridge. No response to emails. Ever. Took my lumps and went home. Never planned to order from them again.
So I ordered from them again, as I love the idea of a fresh atomizer every day, and Loongtotem's prices, although competitive, did not make me want to pay $100,000,000 for shipping and still get only one battery. So, e-cig took my money willingly for the large package (2 batteries, charger, and 84 carts). Immediately I got an email stating that they would dispatch my order in 3-5 business days. Five weeks later, I got my "large" package. They had sent FOUR carts, instead of EIGHTY-FOUR. Arrrrrrgggggghhhhhh. Not again. No response to emails. Crossing fingers. Something tells me they will send the carts, as earlier in this thread it was mentioned that the carts are what is holding them back.
So, believe it or not, I am HAPPY. Build quality is excellent, not like the minis I got from them. Packaging is the same, if not more efficient (smaller box). USB charger is a bonus, allowing me to pocket a charge source that I can use anywhere. I carry a small (1350mah, 3.7V) litium emergency brick made to charge cellphones, and I figure I could charge for a week or two with it... So I screwed it together and wow, it is TINY. The smallest and thinnest cig I have owned. It is also very light, allowing it to be held like a real analog cig, and almost light enough to dangle from the lips. But not quite. Took a draw (a very, very easy draw) and BAM!!! Enough smoke to choke a horse. Like I said, I smoked the first cartridge for 30 hours without topping off at all. Vape was pretty consistent, only trailing off a little in the last hour or so of vaping. Not wanting to barbeque the paper coil, I opened the cart and filled it with some Ruyan No. 4 (yum!). I am still using the first cart today (Saturday) with no problems. Five days on one cart. Nice.
I know a lot of you are calling BS. But this is what I have found in a somewhat bittersweet experience. E-cig's customer service is the worst I have ever experienced, making me feel like I have been outright scammed at times, picturing them laughing amidst a confetti parade made up of my plentiful US dollars. But I cannot deny that this cig is the BEST I have ever used, producing more vape on the fifth day than any of the others did on their first day.
There are a few advantages to this design that I will point out:
1: Obviously, a new atomizer with each cart gives "new e-cig" vape every time you switch in a new cart.
2: This cart can hold easily 4 to 5 times more liquid, because there are no "inner" cartridges taking up space, no separate mouthpieces, and the walls of the cart, being metal, are MUCH thinner.
3: Instead of the atomizer being at the very bottom of the cart, the coil is smack dab in the middle of the cart, so it draws liquid in from all angles. The old style carts would dry up at the atomizer end, with a bunch of unused juice trapped in the upper half. This cart uses ALL the juice. Hence, my 30 hour claim seems to make sense now...
4: Because of the design, the carts do not get hot, only warm.
5: The channel for air to flow from the battery to the mouthpiece is fairly large, allowing for a very easy draw.
6: There are no "slots" where the battery and cart interface (all the air is drawn through the battery instead of being mixed at the battery/cart connection). This allows one to hold the cig with the fingers without the fear of blocking these holes and burning out the atomizer.
7: Everything is allowed to be much more compact. I like to travel light.
8: No gurgling. A quiet cig is a stealthy cig. Good luch trying to conceal the stratocumulous clouds of vapor though...
I think that's it...
You may notice that my New Minicig looks a bit different than the pictures you have seen... I was filling the cart and made a mess so I decided to peel the "label" off the cart. Underneath was a beautiful satin finish steel. So I decided to lathe off the pain on the batteries using a dremel. Looks nice I think. I also smoothed the plastic "ash" on the ends of the batteries. I then replaced the somewat loose rubber cap on the cart with another battery end (cannibalized from an e-cig mini battery) that has a hole drilled in the center. I LOVE the finished product. It looks a lot less like a cigarette, so I should get a lot less "excuse me sir, there is NO SMOKING in this establishment/ flying fortress...
Last pic is ALL I have to carry to smoke all day (other than the cig itself). Spare battery and cart go in a slimline aluminum case with the "rubbers" on to keep things from rattling. The "stick" in the picture is a length of 0.8mm carbon fiber rod with a grommett on the end, for removing the rubber endcaps of the carts, and to clear the draw channel of any stray liquid...
Hope you guys liked my New Minicig review/ rant/ rave!!!
Thanks for the review FauxPuff. You are the first person I've heard of actually getting a delivery. The product sounds very promising. Lets hope others will soon be getting their deliveries too.
thx for the review fp. the pics look like there are protruding rubber caps on both ends. is this the case? do you think you could separate the atomizer from the battery and take a photo looking at the threads? and one looking into the cart with the cap off?
Wow- great review- Please tell us how long a cartridge can go with refilling? Sounds like htis is indeed a loongtotem-like ecig from the description of the clouds of vapor, and if your batteries are going for 10 hours? Wow! That certainly beats loongtotem's battery charge time by about 7 hours or more. Your review touched on some of the positives that I also find with these smaller vapor machines- and was nicely present4d. Sounds like the ecig.com mini is going to be a winner.
No sir- I certainly am not thinking that as Your experience is almost exactly what I experience with the loongtotem- spot on review- I love the loongtotem, and it appears the ecig mini is a loongtotem, and I think you're really goign to like it a lot, especially if your battery will last 10 or so hours on one charge- wish mine did- but only lasts about 3 hours.
How about hte taste and throat hit? Nicotine hit? I find hte loongtotem to be lacking in both of these departments, although taste can be increased slightly by refilling- the htroat hit just isn't all that great- BUT I did get some 24mg cartridges upon asking for them, and they really did give a much better throat hit and nic hit for about 3 or so real cigs worth of vaping.
It's just a shame that these products are coming from Ecig.com as they can't seem to get their act together. I'd love to order a couple from them, but don't feel like waiting 3 months- Anyone willing to order 20 or so and sell some stateside?
Added: One hting htough- watch out if you unintentionally burn the paper in the cartridge- the mouthpiece will get VERY hot and burn your lips- I've learned to take the soft rubber covering that comes o nthe cartridges, poke a hole in the end, and use that as a slip cover over the end so as to avoid that, plus it keep the paper on the cartridge from gettign all soggy too
No sir- I certainly am not thinking that as Your experience is almost exactly what I experience with the loongtotem- spot on review- I love the loongtotem, and it appears the ecig mini is a loongtotem, and I think you're really goign to like it a lot, especially if your battery will last 10 or so hours on one charge- wish mine did- but only lasts about 3 hours.
How about hte taste and throat hit? Nicotine hit? I find hte loongtotem to be lacking in both of these departments, although taste can be increased slightly by refilling- the htroat hit just isn't all that great- BUT I did get some 24mg cartridges upon asking for them, and they really did give a much better throat hit and nic hit for about 3 or so real cigs worth of vaping.
It's just a shame that these products are coming from Ecig.com as they can't seem to get their act together. I'd love to order a couple from them, but don't feel like waiting 3 months- Anyone willing to order 20 or so and sell some stateside?
Added: One hting htough- watch out if you unintentionally burn the paper in the cartridge- the mouthpiece will get VERY hot and burn your lips- I've learned to take the soft rubber covering that comes o nthe cartridges, poke a hole in the end, and use that as a slip cover over the end so as to avoid that, plus it keep the paper on the cartridge from gettign all soggy too
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Good question Trog - and didn't you order a couple of weeks before me? I'm waiting 4 weeks.
i did dude i was also told two or three days ago that they didnt have enough parts to ship any..
i also mentioned bad things were being mentioned on forums and they needed to offer some explanation..
then we have a first poster wonder review.. ???
hmmm..
trog
ps.. also the term fauxpuff.. means false puff..
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I noted the handle myself Trog but thought "nahhh .. couldn't be such an obvious piss-take!"
I liked the review - it particularly covered the points that might concern people who have made orders but received nothing more than a debit on their accounts.
I've posted before about it being being bad practice for companies to take orders when they are "out of stock". It is still worse to offer no explanation. Worst of all is that e-cig.com have continued to accept orders when they have known for 6 weeks (that we know of) that they couldn't deliver.
I welcome FauxPuff's review - it may indicate that e-cig.com are in a position to deliver on their part of the contracts they entered in to - though FauzPuff reports only a few cartridges were received.
IF e-cig.com are an honest company then they have done serious damage to their reputation by taking orders and money at times they knew they couldn't deliver. This is a dishonest way to do business.
As I write they are still taking orders ...
I liked the review - it particularly covered the points that might concern people who have made orders but received nothing more than a debit on their accounts.
I've posted before about it being being bad practice for companies to take orders when they are "out of stock". It is still worse to offer no explanation. Worst of all is that e-cig.com have continued to accept orders when they have known for 6 weeks (that we know of) that they couldn't deliver.
I welcome FauxPuff's review - it may indicate that e-cig.com are in a position to deliver on their part of the contracts they entered in to - though FauzPuff reports only a few cartridges were received.
IF e-cig.com are an honest company then they have done serious damage to their reputation by taking orders and money at times they knew they couldn't deliver. This is a dishonest way to do business.
As I write they are still taking orders ...
The handle FAUXPUFF was actually the name of a little business that I almost started selling E-cig's to stockbrokers so they wouldnt have to take smoke breaks during trading hours...
Ok, I think I was a little exhuberant...
Batteries will last straight through a workday (7-8.5 hours)
Carts seem to last a day...
Keep in mind, I am a tobacco replacement smoker, not a "pacifier style" smoker like so many of you seem to be...
If you chain-e-smoke, battery should last 5 hours, cart maybe till 9 pm...
you guys wanted more pics:
Ok, I think I was a little exhuberant...
Batteries will last straight through a workday (7-8.5 hours)
Carts seem to last a day...
Keep in mind, I am a tobacco replacement smoker, not a "pacifier style" smoker like so many of you seem to be...
If you chain-e-smoke, battery should last 5 hours, cart maybe till 9 pm...
you guys wanted more pics:
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