Originally it comes with a one-piece steel tank. The window is an option and it just allows you to see how much juice is left. Instead of having a deep well, the posts and airflow are raised high above the deck so you can drip a lot of liquid in, or as much as 2ml with out it leaking when laying down.
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Originally it comes with a one-piece steel tank. The window is an option and it just allows you to see how much juice is left. Instead of having a deep well, the posts and airflow are raised high above the deck so you can drip a lot of liquid in, or as much as 2ml with out it leaking when laying down.
That's what I tried with the Veritas, earlier... even with the barest sliver of the airhole showing, still can't MtL it. But I like the looks of that Origen v2 a lot; I think I'll keep it on the "list" (the "when I get a round tuit" list).
Andria
Dont forget the spheroid, I have seen them as low as $65 in the VA clearance several times a year. As close to leakproof as it can get.
That's what I tried with the Veritas, earlier... even with the barest sliver of the airhole showing, still can't MtL it. But I like the looks of that Origen v2 a lot; I think I'll keep it on the "list" (the "when I get a round tuit" list).
Andria
I have the Veritas too. Everyone says the flavor is so great on it but i never got along with it. To be fair it's not really designed as a tootle puffer dripper so maybe just not for me. The origen though is great and under $10.
Great idea for a thread
Yeah it was a case of misinformation, when I asked someone if the airflow could be closed enough for MtL vaping -- I was told "Sure!" Just like the Derringer.
Also decidedly NOT a tootle puffing RDA.Andria
You could add the Nectar Micro to the list ... single coil, 1mm capacity RDA. Doesn't leak at all unless you turn it upside down. Spheroid doesn't leak even if you do turn it upside down
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There's been a huge discussion about defining a tootle puffer, which I didn't read. I think vaping under 25 watts is pretty much TPuffing these days. I'd like to see two post, single air supply versions of the Tugboat and Derringer. I tape one of the air supplies shut on those to help restrict the air flow and so they won't leak laying on their sides.
I tried to make the Achilles work for me, no luck. I'm playing with the Igo W without success yet. I keep going back to the Tugboat and Derringer clones and wishing they had 2 posts and one air supply. May be the temp control market will inspire some new rda's.
I tried to make the Achilles work for me, no luck. I'm playing with the Igo W without success yet. I keep going back to the Tugboat and Derringer clones and wishing they had 2 posts and one air supply. May be the temp control market will inspire some new rda's.
In what way did the Achilles not work for you? To me it's the quintessential tootle puffer atty, along with cartos/cartotanks. That tight draw is excellent! And there's so little air to dilute the flavor!
Andria
Yeah, an exact tootle puffer definition probably doesn't exist . I guess I was thinking if it can be used mouth to lung, that was my primary criteria. I just know I've answered a lot of threads lately asking for recommendations or from those who felt there was nothing for them out there. And I have a lot of attys I felt qualified, but perhaps aren't well known? I'm always coming across attys I didn't know about. And I tend to add the budget priced ones to my collection if they bring something unique to the table. The high end ones are added more slowly
. I guess I was thinking if it can be used mouth to lung, that was my primary criteria. I just know I've answered a lot of threads lately asking for recommendations or from those who felt there was nothing for them out there. And I have a lot of attys I felt qualified, but perhaps aren't well known? I'm always coming across attys I didn't know about. And I tend to add the budget priced ones to my collection if they bring something unique to the table. The high end ones are added more slowly I've always dripped at less than 15 watts. That's all there was when I started dripping.
This was as good as it gets back then.
THIS!! An HH357 on a provari...I was the envy of the dripping world. Which is only like three other people, since everyone seemed to prefer leaky cartotanks. haha
I tend to "tootle" when I am sitting. My breathing is relaxed and I don't need a whole lot for enjoyment, whether that be flavor or some vapor to exhale at the cat. He likes it. When I am on the sofa he comes running. Its tootle time.
When I am "on the move" I like it harder and fast. I guess it is in the fact that I want a bigger nic hit.
The big difference is the power involved. Tootling is low watts, under 20 and "on the move" is 35-40 watts.
Just me.
Oh, know one has mentioned the Rose. Jeez, that thing is tighter than a...
When I am "on the move" I like it harder and fast. I guess it is in the fact that I want a bigger nic hit.
The big difference is the power involved. Tootling is low watts, under 20 and "on the move" is 35-40 watts.
Just me.
Oh, know one has mentioned the Rose. Jeez, that thing is tighter than a...
I did mention the Rose . At first I didn't because I thought it was pretty well known, but then I realized maybe it isn't. There are attys with a tighter draw than the Rose I think. The KFL and Ataman2.
I also neglected Vapourart (GP) and GG as I figured they've been around a long time and have their own areas on the forum, but they also make a lot of very nice tootle gear.
And maybe I should add the eXpromizer. Its a wonderful vape and easy to build and fill. And perhaps not as well known outside of Europe.
. At first I didn't because I thought it was pretty well known, but then I realized maybe it isn't. There are attys with a tighter draw than the Rose I think. The KFL and Ataman2. I also neglected Vapourart (GP) and GG as I figured they've been around a long time and have their own areas on the forum, but they also make a lot of very nice tootle gear.
And maybe I should add the eXpromizer. Its a wonderful vape and easy to build and fill. And perhaps not as well known outside of Europe.
I have the same issue regardless of whether I'm using kanthal, nickel or Ti. The first few puffs are fine. The issue arises when the tank is warm. The description I would use is too wet. Here is my theory about why. There is a lot of surface area inside the tank because it is tall and there is still more surface area under the top cap because of the protruding chimney. Liquid condenses on those surfaces, especially on the bottom of the top cap. When you take a hit some of that wet condensed vapor combines with the vapor coming straight off the coil to create a different vapor quality than I get from my Tugboats, Derringer, etc. The achilles is made of titanium and may be that material is a more efficient condenser than stainless steel. The Achilles has the posts I want to build on and it doesn't leak but that doesn't overcome the vapor quality issue. May be there should be a stainless version and more thickness in the top cap to reduce the surface area inside the tank.
I think it must just be the excellent "saturation" of the vape that you object to. Maybe a Kayfun with a plastic M-tank?
Andria
This is where the, as yet, unborn field of vapology would come in handy. There is no magic with vaping. The qualities could be quantified. There are reasons why different atomizers and buillds act differently. Then there is the human part where one thing appears better than another when it's really just what we're used to. If we knew more about the science and mechanics these discussions would be more interesting. I hated giving up on the Achilles. I'm thinking may be I can test my theory by filling or caping the bottom of the top cap to see if that changes things. I might try insulating the barrel so the inside walls get hotter and behave more like stainless. I didn't say it's a bad atomizer. I did say I prefer the vape quality of several other rda's I've got.
Another tootle worthy rda I mentioned earlier is the IGO W. I like that one because it's small, simple and cheap (I got 3 for $4 each). To make them work I have to tape off one air hole and slightly enlarge the other and then I didn't like the vaper I was getting with 1.5 ohm kanthal coils and the barrel was getting too hot. But yesterday, instead of kanthal I make a temp control 1 ohm titanium build and liking the vapor.
Have you tried a Prometey, with fiberfill? I have one, but have only used it as a regular dripper, without the fiberfill. But that fiberfill might prevent that wetness you object to, possibly. It's got a very similar "feel" to an Achilles, very tight draw and dense flavor.
Andria
Anything for non-building tootie puffers? That's where I'm seeing no development. Anything 22mm sized is sub-ohm. I'm looking for 1.3 or higher so it'll work on my vw devices like provari.
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