THE Phoenix Line is here & up for SALE. both phoenix xl & 3ml tank version,bottom coil, 2 ohms for both
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As always mwa, your insight and expertise is always appreciated !! Yes I plan on giving them a good torch, as always. You know I tried the Mcmaster-Carr silica stuff with dismal results on my Stardusts, due to the properties of the material (shredded in my hands while wrapping my Kanthal around it).
I am with high hopes with the Nextel, as I hope it will be easier to work with. You wouldn't happen to know EXACTLY what type of wicking is used in the Phoenix or ViVi? Looking at the ViVi, it looks just like the Nextel, and the stuff you pointed out at COV.
As far as I'm concerned, Silica, Ceramic, and SS Mesh are the only things I'm putting in my lungs (after properly prepped, of course). Yarn, Cotton, and such, I will take a pass on...
You mentioned "Solid Ceramic" to wrap your coils with. Where might I find very small diameter solid ceramic to do this?
As I am an avid Knife freek, and can put an edge on a blade that will make you bleed just looking at it, I am very familiar with ceramic of that nature, but have never seen the size required to be used in atty's ?
The wire mesh stuff used in all the great dripping atty's (the stuff we rip out when de-bridging) what EXACTLY is this material, and can it be bought separately? Have you tried making a wick out of it? Would it be worth chasing?
hell yes Bionic Phoenix! dont really know what it means, but it sounds sweet ha ha!
Second that. I keep mine in a used Altoid tin, with no problem...I also cut my rubber condoms from my Boges, and use them as protective "Boots" if you will, on the Batt connection end, just as a precaution when thrown in a pants or shirt pocket..keeps fuzz and dirt off...
The wicking I pointed out at COV and what is used in the Phoenix and vivi is Silica, and I believe the Silica that you got from McMaster must have been the wrong stuff Zipper, the right kind of Silica rope doesnt just shred up unless you unravel it. I find the Silica to be the best as for the rope type wicking material, it comes in different MM sizes. Dont get upset if you find the Nextel Ceramic type rope wick to be to harsh, it usually is, and its why I said to start by only adding one small strand on top of the coil and silica wick first.
The mesh used on bridges is made of a Nichrome I believe, not much different the SS mesh just a bit different in material make up, ya I have used it, and prefer the ss mesh over it for wicking material.
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MWA: I tried your trick and so far all is perfect (I'm baffled, I swear last time I did this it was a disaster)
But I'm only 50% down the tube. Let's see if it starts flooding as I go, will post later.[/QUOTE]
CVap,,, just my opinion but any type of tank type system needs to be refilled once it gets down to say 25% level, you run into a pressure thing where the tank looses Pressure, I refill mine once I have 1/4 full tank on any and every tank I have, Atty tank, Carto tank, Phoenix tank, it's just normal and how they all work, once all that slop of air gets in there they work differently and not the same, and with these Phoenix its the same = 1/4 tank it' refill time, and that's OK with me, just my 2c
Edit: My current Phoenix is now at 25% full, I'm gonna see if it will vape to empty this time, I havent tried that yet, so will see, I think it just may CVap,,,,, So the Mod is working for you ?
Edit #2: Vaped it to the bottom, started getting a little gurgly after it got down to about the 20% full level, but still vaped it till the liquid got to the opening of the wicks, no problem on mine. Like I said any tank will start to change how it works once all that air gets in it and there isnt any pressure, but for the mot part this Phoenix worked pretty dam good till the bottom. Very happy with these, Chris and Danno did a very nice job with the Phoenix in my opinion, and knowing them they will probably have the next batch even better, and the one after that even better yet. Looking forward to what else they have coming too.
So many vendors just take what there Chinese manufacturer's give them, without even testing and sell lots of the garbage that is forced at them, Chris and Danno no better and do it the right way with testing there gear time and time again until it is acceptable,( turning down a lot of the new gear that is put in front of them too ) every once in a while something can slip through with anyone but for the most part how these two gentleman work there line of products is more then acceptable in my opinion, and they do a dam good job in my opinion also. I know Chris will put his stamp on this industry before he ever leaves it too.
But I'm only 50% down the tube. Let's see if it starts flooding as I go, will post later.[/QUOTE]
CVap,,, just my opinion but any type of tank type system needs to be refilled once it gets down to say 25% level, you run into a pressure thing where the tank looses Pressure, I refill mine once I have 1/4 full tank on any and every tank I have, Atty tank, Carto tank, Phoenix tank, it's just normal and how they all work, once all that slop of air gets in there they work differently and not the same, and with these Phoenix its the same = 1/4 tank it' refill time, and that's OK with me, just my 2c
Edit: My current Phoenix is now at 25% full, I'm gonna see if it will vape to empty this time, I havent tried that yet, so will see, I think it just may CVap,,,,, So the Mod is working for you ?
Edit #2: Vaped it to the bottom, started getting a little gurgly after it got down to about the 20% full level, but still vaped it till the liquid got to the opening of the wicks, no problem on mine. Like I said any tank will start to change how it works once all that air gets in it and there isnt any pressure, but for the mot part this Phoenix worked pretty dam good till the bottom. Very happy with these, Chris and Danno did a very nice job with the Phoenix in my opinion, and knowing them they will probably have the next batch even better, and the one after that even better yet. Looking forward to what else they have coming too.
So many vendors just take what there Chinese manufacturer's give them, without even testing and sell lots of the garbage that is forced at them, Chris and Danno no better and do it the right way with testing there gear time and time again until it is acceptable,( turning down a lot of the new gear that is put in front of them too ) every once in a while something can slip through with anyone but for the most part how these two gentleman work there line of products is more then acceptable in my opinion, and they do a dam good job in my opinion also. I know Chris will put his stamp on this industry before he ever leaves it too.
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I think you're right.
I didn't get to the bottom, I got caught up in other things today, but in good news, the thing is still hitting perfectly, and I didn't get a single drop through the center tube after it say on my desk all day (that's a phoenix first in my house : ) )
to be continued
Very good point regarding refilling at 75% empty mwa102464.
I've occasionally had the same problem, though mainly just if left unattended for a length of time. Pretty rare that one is not in my hand though
I've occasionally had the same problem, though mainly just if left unattended for a length of time. Pretty rare that one is not in my hand though
Thanx. When you said "start by only adding one small strand on top of the coil and silica wick first". That really has me confused. I of course, am looking to replace the entire guts, not trying to "improve" it. I have no problem with the wicking action as it is, out of the box. (Got lucky, I guess)
Yes I did have to unravel it, to get a small enough diameter to work with. Looking back at McMaster, 1/4" is the smallest diameter Silica they sell. Who sells silica in "mm" sizes? I just did a quick search and it seems the only way to get small 1mm and 2mm silica, is imported from Japan (Vaporshub) for example. So if you wanna use USA sourced silica, then you must unravel it. MSC's smallest diameter is 1/4" also...
So it seems COV silica comes from Japan, correct?
Tonight at work I pulled a real boner. I had my 18650 eGo mod in my clipboard, with my Phoenix sitting on top. I rattled it around a tad bit, nothing extreme, and when I opened it up to take a vape, I found I had cracked the plastic tube right at the base, and spilled juice all over the inside. I didn't think the tubes were this fragile. Lesson learned. Will the eGO cone Got Vapes sells by itself work with the Phoenix or is it just for the 3ml version?
On the brighter side, I was pleased to see the lack of serious gunk on the wick and coil, and this is after 4 refills (Double Espresso 24mg). Yeah, its a light juice, but if this is any indication of how efficient these things vaporize juice, then I'm really stoked.
Ive been vaping mine right down till the needle reads empty, and have had no issues. Once again, I must have bought a box that was built on a Wednesday.
Yes I did have to unravel it, to get a small enough diameter to work with. Looking back at McMaster, 1/4" is the smallest diameter Silica they sell. Who sells silica in "mm" sizes? I just did a quick search and it seems the only way to get small 1mm and 2mm silica, is imported from Japan (Vaporshub) for example. So if you wanna use USA sourced silica, then you must unravel it. MSC's smallest diameter is 1/4" also...
So it seems COV silica comes from Japan, correct?
Tonight at work I pulled a real boner. I had my 18650 eGo mod in my clipboard, with my Phoenix sitting on top. I rattled it around a tad bit, nothing extreme, and when I opened it up to take a vape, I found I had cracked the plastic tube right at the base, and spilled juice all over the inside. I didn't think the tubes were this fragile. Lesson learned. Will the eGO cone Got Vapes sells by itself work with the Phoenix or is it just for the 3ml version?
On the brighter side, I was pleased to see the lack of serious gunk on the wick and coil, and this is after 4 refills (Double Espresso 24mg). Yeah, its a light juice, but if this is any indication of how efficient these things vaporize juice, then I'm really stoked.
Ive been vaping mine right down till the needle reads empty, and have had no issues. Once again, I must have bought a box that was built on a Wednesday.
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I just ordered the higher omh one and I have an ego. What are the differences in the ohms? Hope I ordered the eight one.
I am currently using three XLs and one 3 ml. They are excellent. No issue at all (I hope I don't jinx it by making this declaration. Knock on the wood three times). They work well with the eGos, i.e. low voltage. The XLs seem to work even better with my old 510 manual xl batteries. Just amazing.
Good post zipper, keep up the good work and us posted. BUT all you grasshoppers (and older than dirts) need to remember something: tell us WHICH Phoenix you’re talking about, especially on something like a mechanical weakness.
May I propose we stick with no name or XL for the smaller $2 a go ones and
TANK for the big $11 ones.
and no you didn’t get lucky zipper, all I’ve tried have been GREAT right out of the box, I think the people who have BOB (Bad Out of Box) problems should maybe think about why they are so unlucky while GotVapes makes it up to them.
May I propose we stick with no name or XL for the smaller $2 a go ones and
TANK for the big $11 ones.
and no you didn’t get lucky zipper, all I’ve tried have been GREAT right out of the box, I think the people who have BOB (Bad Out of Box) problems should maybe think about why they are so unlucky while GotVapes makes it up to them.
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Your spot on kwcharlie. I should not be so negative. The majority should be considered "built right", and the few with issues are the minority. The old saying holds true, "Only the bad stuff gets the press", no one knows about the good. I stand firm in saying these 1.5 ml or "XL's" are for sure good. As I said in my earlier posts, and my mind has not changed, I want a whole case of 50. And thats even with my full intention of rebuilding them!!!
so it was an XL that broke in you're clipboard?
Thinking so becouse seems that's what you've posted about. The big TANKS are better mechancial in IMHO, you need to try them too if you havn't.
Thinking so becouse seems that's what you've posted about. The big TANKS are better mechancial in IMHO, you need to try them too if you havn't.
Yes. The XL. I've already blown my weekly allowance for vaping goodies last Friday, and must wait till Friday of next week to place an order. I'm for sure going to order a Tank, a ViVi, eGo Cone, and at least a couple more boxes of Phoenix's. Buy then the Phoenix's should be in stock, and I can order the whole shabang in one lick... Since me and you are in the same neck of the woods, how long can I expect to wait on a shipment from NY? My orders of BWB juice normaly take around 5 Business days, once shipped..
Here is a shot of the Phoenix (XL) wick and coil after 4 refills. A very slight amount of carbon build up can be seen, but still in very outstanding shape. Notice no discoloration of the wick itself. This has not been dry burned either. I routinely tear down my eGo atty's, and they have never looked this good even after a good soak in everclear, dryburn, rinse, and torched. No crud in the bottom of the ceramic cup either !!!
IMO, these things are incredibly efficient in vaporizing juice, in order to look like this.
Ego Atty by comparison:
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Ummm... Madvapes doesn't carry the Phoenix nor the CE3 XL. Lol
about that or less, had in 3 days.
be sure and get the little cones for the eGo's, use to adjust the draw on the XL's. The new adjustable eGo's have put my VV's out of work on all the Phoenix. I still use them on the ViVi's and Stardusts and of course tanked Fusions but since the P's they don't get used near as much
And the Phoenix Tank doesn't even need the adjustable, when i use on them alwase ends up turned down all the way, even the higher ohm'ed ones.
Just playing with some old Atty's, bottom and top feed, and ready to go back to a Phoenix on an eGo, who would have thought, so get your cart's and don't worry about atty's yet, you got enough carto frogs to kiss for now, trust me.
be sure and get the little cones for the eGo's, use to adjust the draw on the XL's. The new adjustable eGo's have put my VV's out of work on all the Phoenix. I still use them on the ViVi's and Stardusts and of course tanked Fusions but since the P's they don't get used near as much
And the Phoenix Tank doesn't even need the adjustable, when i use on them alwase ends up turned down all the way, even the higher ohm'ed ones.
Just playing with some old Atty's, bottom and top feed, and ready to go back to a Phoenix on an eGo, who would have thought, so get your cart's and don't worry about atty's yet, you got enough carto frogs to kiss for now, trust me.
me bad, and not the first time on that mistake, just trust if I'm posting in the gotvape i won't talk about another supplier, bad enough i sometimes talk about a product they don't carry. now to adjust my ADD meds
I got some terrible cartos from MV. I put in a support ticket, and they said that since they weren't DOA, there was nothing they could do. Now, the tubes melted on the things when you used them, but they weren't DOA. They NEVER made anything up to me. Heck, I even do reviews for them... but they never made anything up to me!
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