THE Phoenix Line is here & up for SALE. both phoenix xl & 3ml tank version,bottom coil, 2 ohms for both

[antfuzz]

But it was great until yesterday. That's sort of perplexing to me. I mean, the wicks can't suddenly become too thick as far as I know. He didn't have to do a primer puff or squeeze the tube and he hasn't abused it in any way. So, now I have two of these to work on. I'm so disappointed that these little ones are sold out!! Since I gave a few away to my mom and uncle to try, I wound up with two for myself and two for my husband. Now we're down to one each and if they fail, then I just have my 3ml phoenix and no replacements! I love these things too much. So, anything that I can do to keep them maintained, I'll do.

BonnyC,

I have 3 phoenixes that you can have. Get in touch with me via PM and give me your address and I'll get them in mail. The 2 that I tried are fine but they're not my cup of tea, I prefer a warmer vape. I'd like to see these go to someone who really likes them.

 

[samsun]

Thanks for the great ideas Big Screen, if I have any more like this I will def. try to push cup up.

Funny thing is when they are wicking right, the draw though still on the airy side, is quite nice. I may have gotten used to the different draw which is looser than the Stardust that I've been using for several months before the Pheonix relegated them to my Armageddon stash.

Having the wick up close and as straight to the inlet holes as the wire allows makes a huge difference in how well they work. If I hadn't had one that was built that way, and was kicking the snot out of another I may have chalked the Pheonix up as a fail.

Another thing to look for. One some, the cup itself can be pushed down further from the inlet holes than others. Take the fill needle and gently push the cup up by sticking it through the bottom. There is a risk of breaking the cup, or pulling apart the connection if done to hard. I have not ruined on yet, but there is no doubt that it can happen.

After the wick has been manipulated to be as close to the top as possible with minimal bends, if it still isn't wicking enough, particularly if you use a thick juice, use a 3/16" chainsaw file and file two crescents into the base of the air-tube on opposing sides where it seats above the wick. Place the airtube so the peak of the crescent is above the inlet hole which makes the largest opening. Fill and vape. If it floods a bit, just stick the pointy end of a knife into the top of the air-tube at the top seal and turn the air-tube to adjust. You'll be able to see the hole get a little smaller.

I know this sounds a like a PIA, but once you've played with em a bit, there really isn't much to it. Roughly half of the ones we have are perfect out of the box. I've fixed the rest to work the others to work at least as good. I do have one that was sent to my parts donor box because the coil is to mangled to make right.

As I sit here typing this, I'm vaping 100%VG Boba's bounty with my morning coffee in the same modded Pheonix that has had at least 50ml run through it, dry burned every 2-3 fills, and getting perfect vape, after perfect vape. 50ml and still perfect vaping on a $2 carto? That's insane!
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[dannoman]

Thanks for the update - he was going to come to my home and stay a few days with Peggy and then I hadn't heard from him...I'll be sure to give him a buzz...

Oh boy, that brings back memories, Billy just had surgery, heard from him after here was OK but bedded, it's been over a week since heard from, presume healing. We should meet over there with dinner when he and Peggy can take drop-ins. You ever see the Radio's he's built? Fits in with the lath on the kitchen table.

 

[Big Screen D]

Samsun. I've only had a couple that I could/needed to push the cup up at all. So don't force it. Also, you have to get he needle sideways a little, otherwise you'll come up through the airway in the bottom of the cup.

 

[zippersnapper]

Ok, so I sent an e-mail to Omega wondering why my order of 10' of 1/16" of ceramic rope hadn't shipped, and the next thing I know I get a call from Omega asking how long I have lived at my address? So I asked the woman "I didnt realize i was ordering plutonium, what's up". She tells me its restricted to export (which I indicated on the checkout), but she must confirm verbally before they will ship out...Hmm, I said "I ordered basically the same stuff from McMaster-Carr, and they didnt give me the background check". I had to explain what I was using it for, then she said "Ohh yea, I'm quit familiar with that..your order will be shipped out this afternoon sir".....What a trip....

 

[kwcharlie]

From Burning Cartomisers? Dangerous?-510/Kr808/4081...etc filler type cartos in Ecigarette Technical Issues today
br update. ....

Recovery has been a good bit longer than expected. I don't know why and don't believe the doctors do either. About all they can blame it on is the amount of radiation that I have been bombarded with for the past few years. I'm slowly getting better tho, so that's all that really matters. I'm getting up and down OK, but can only sit in a chair for a few minutes, which means that most of my time is still being spent in the bed. I'm still keeping an eye on you kids, so don't you think for one minute that you can be naughty little boys and girls just because you don't see me here.

Thanks for the update - he was going to come to my home and stay a few days with Peggy and then I hadn't heard from him...I'll be sure to give him a buzz...

 

[mwa102464]

I dont know if you guys are still removing wick with these Phoenix units but, I find myself adding some small strands, just laying 3 small strands and laying them over top of the coil and letting it go past the side about 1/4" then bending them upward when I put the tube back on, I get plumes of fresh good tasting vapor by doing this, it makes the draw good and the units work superb , Im behind in this thread but just wanted to add what I'm doing, I think choice of wicking material is subjective to what one likes best to use. I'm running the 2.1-2.4 Phoenix on my Ego Twist @ 4.3-4.4v and there kicking some Azz

 

[Cyrus Vap]

I'm telling you guys and gals, its pure demonic possession. mwa and I do completely opposite things, and get identical results. Yet if I try what he does I get a flood or a scorch fest

 

[mwa102464]

Cyrus, I have no scorching or flooding,,, I add ONLY 3 small silica pieces and let them hang over the outside 1/4" on either side, and bend them upwards when putting the tube back on. Fill it properly upside down of course, and I get not a drop of leakage, and no scorching. I'm not chain vaping the boogers out of them but taking a vape every 5 seconds , I get bubble when I watch the bottom when sitting, no flooding. I dont know why you get what you do ? I'm clueless to how you could get any flooding, they dont flood how they are stock with the wick in them. I did remove 2 strands from with in the coil though, so maybe thats it, I took away and added on top of the coil, I forgot to say this part sorry.

As for juice in this one I am running virginvapors Pecan pie as well,,, just so you know, and at 4.4v-4.6v on the Twist.

I do find by just removing wick I get flooding, and its why I added the 3 small pieces of silica back on top of the coil, because I tried removing 2 strands of the silica on this one, when I did this I got leakage, I thought hmmm let me add a few strands back on top of the coil, I found the leaking stopped right away and the vape was fresh, thick, and tasty again. just my findings Cyrus.

 

[Errol]

not sure why you having those issues, ive been through so many phoenixs and my firends as well and so many people are writing in that these are the best things they have ever used. I perosnally think they are the bomb

I'm guessing this was in response to my post. FWIW I've read every post in the forum and tried many of the fixes others have suggested to no avail. I'm aware many are thrilled with the phoenix right out of the box but there are also many who are having problems, hence the modding.

My post was a simple FYI for others who may still be having problems. Now that I'm able to get juice into the coil chamber with each puff by tightening up the draw I'm confident I can do some of the modding others have suggested and end up with a satisfactory vape.

Errol

im hoping the minor changes in the new batch alleviate those issues for erroll, i am aware some are having some minor things go on but its happening to such a small crowd overall it really is hard to pinpoint and i tried, like is aid i have vaped so many phoenixes without issue, of coarse i had one that died early, i had that wasnt a super wicker and needed adjusting but once adjusted it was fine, i also had 3ml version with the nutty taste and fixed that, so im aware ther eis little things to work out but compared to any other release its just amazing us how minimal its been in the real wolrd. now i had them do some truly minor adjustemnts plus no fluid in them of any kind and then we will go form there, they should arrive next week.

 

[zippersnapper]

From Burning Cartomisers? Dangerous?-510/Kr808/4081...etc filler type cartos in Ecigarette Technical Issues today
br update. ....

Recovery has been a good bit longer than expected. I don't know why and don't believe the doctors do either. About all they can blame it on is the amount of radiation that I have been bombarded with for the past few years. I'm slowly getting better tho, so that's all that really matters. I'm getting up and down OK, but can only sit in a chair for a few minutes, which means that most of my time is still being spent in the bed. I'm still keeping an eye on you kids, so don't you think for one minute that you can be naughty little boys and girls just because you don't see me here.

Damn kwcharlie...didn't know you were ill.
God speed on recovery...

 

[Errol]

Hi Samsun, Yes I have taken some apart and the coils have been ok. These units when working properly appear to work like an auto feed atty, now if I can just get mine feeding properly I'll be happy as part of my vaping pleasure is atty dripping but it can be messy and a nuisance.

Have cut one tube down to 1" long and use it for dripping to test different juices and it seems to work pretty well.

Reading you post a little closer it appears you may be talking about the 3ml unit, I'm using the 1.5ml units.

Errol

Hi Errol, I was having some problems with a couple of mine but now that I found and fixed the problem They are really good. Have you taken one apart yet? If you have not you may want to so you can take a look at we're the coil is seated. Mine was way down pushed below so that instead of it looking like a coil with a wick pushed through it and the ends of the wicks sticking straight out like they should be, the wicks coming out of the coil on each end were bent pointing up so that they could reach the small holes that they need to be purtruding from. After I pushed the coil up so it was almost even with the holes they are both wicking really good now. Also I was having an airy draw from one of them. I finally realized that that the outer black cover on the carto was not pushed down to the point were it actually snaps on when pushed down right, not sure why but that put an end to my airy draw and I am loving them both now.
Not sure if any of this is going to help u or not but I really hope it does, I have been vaping for quiet some time now and I believe the Phoenix line is the best out there. To me this is what we were all looking for and it can only get better from here. Barbara

 

[Errol]

I will be trying the chainsaw file mod to see if that contributes to my vaping experience with the 1.5ml units. If I can get one to work like an auto drip atty I'll be a happy camper.

That was one of my projects sometime back, that is to make an auto drip with a bridgless 901 atty and it was great when it worked but messy as H*** when it didn't.

Speaking of the Stardust, many have raved about it and it's various iterations but I sure never had any luck with it. Watched a video on how to tear one down all the way down and replace the coil and wick so that may be one of my future projects to see if I can get one of them to work the way some say they do.

Errol

Funny thing is when they are wicking right, the draw though still on the airy side, is quite nice. I may have gotten used to the different draw which is looser than the Stardust that I've been using for several months before the Pheonix relegated them to my Armageddon stash.

Having the wick up close and as straight to the inlet holes as the wire allows makes a huge difference in how well they work. If I hadn't had one that was built that way, and was kicking the snot out of another I may have chalked the Pheonix up as a fail.

Another thing to look for. One some, the cup itself can be pushed down further from the inlet holes than others. Take the fill needle and gently push the cup up by sticking it through the bottom. There is a risk of breaking the cup, or pulling apart the connection if done to hard. I have not ruined on yet, but there is no doubt that it can happen.

After the wick has been manipulated to be as close to the top as possible with minimal bends, if it still isn't wicking enough, particularly if you use a thick juice, use a 3/16" chainsaw file and file two crescents into the base of the air-tube on opposing sides where it seats above the wick. Place the airtube so the peak of the crescent is above the inlet hole which makes the largest opening. Fill and vape. If it floods a bit, just stick the pointy end of a knife into the top of the air-tube at the top seal and turn the air-tube to adjust. You'll be able to see the hole get a little smaller.

I know this sounds a like a PIA, but once you've played with em a bit, there really isn't much to it. Roughly half of the ones we have are perfect out of the box. I've fixed the rest to work the others to work at least as good. I do have one that was sent to my parts donor box because the coil is to mangled to make right.

As I sit here typing this, I'm vaping 100%VG Boba's bounty with my morning coffee in the same modded Pheonix that has had at least 50ml run through it, dry burned every 2-3 fills, and getting perfect vape, after perfect vape. 50ml and still perfect vaping on a $2 carto? That's insane!
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[cthompson116]

Just got my pack of phoenix XL's. I get the funny burnt taste out of the package. I guess taking apart and cleaning is mandatory for these. Seems to be getting better with time. Will it go away on its own, or these have to be cleaned and dry burned before the burnt flavor goes away?

C

 

[kwcharlie]

NO No, that’s not me ZS, you got another 50K posts to read to get this history, br is an old timer who did a lot of top coil mod work (like you’re doing, keep it up) with his personal masterpiece a piece he turned out on his lath with hand wound coils that 8 months ago seemed to be the answer to the few of us who tried it.

Damn kwcharlie...didn't know you were ill.
God speed on recovery...

 

[dannoman]

LOL--sorry this just made me laff....yeah he was quoting a recent post for me from BR...

From Burning Cartomisers? Dangerous?-510/Kr808/4081...etc filler type cartos in Ecigarette Technical Issues today
br update. ....

Recovery has been a good bit longer than expected. I don't know why and don't believe the doctors do either. About all they can blame it on is the amount of radiation that I have been bombarded with for the past few years. I'm slowly getting better tho, so that's all that really matters. I'm getting up and down OK, but can only sit in a chair for a few minutes, which means that most of my time is still being spent in the bed. I'm still keeping an eye on you kids, so don't you think for one minute that you can be naughty little boys and girls just because you don't see me here.

Damn kwcharlie...didn't know you were ill.
God speed on recovery...

 

[harmonic]

glad to hear br is doing ok

 

[zippersnapper]

Geeze, this thread is worse than high school accounting class...miss one day, and your REALLY behind !!

 

[BonnyC]

Geeze, this thread is worse than high school accounting class...miss one day, and your REALLY behind !!

No joke!

Anyway, I bit the bullet and started messing with the cup height on the two that weren't working right. I figured I'd just be putting them in the carto graveyard drawer anyway, so I might as well. I thinned the wicks too much on one which made it start flooding, but it was tasting great after lifting the cup. The second one is perfect now. I slid a needle up the pin at an angle and adjusted it from there as suggested. Thanks for the help, y'all!

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[Big Screen D]

Bonnie. That's why I prefer to file crescents in the air-tube if more juice needs to let in rather than thin the wick. Completely adjustable and totally reversible if needed.