i was using a sharp needle on my first one and after maybe a dozen fills it started to not hold the vacuum. repeated skewering of the fill hole swiss cheesed it i think. if i stick with the one it came with no problems...
THE Phoenix Line is here & up for SALE. both phoenix xl & 3ml tank version,bottom coil, 2 ohms for both
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you can usually get free syringes without needles...they'll just give you one. Say its for baby medication. You can get blunt needles on amazon for about 20 cents a piece
You may be right. My idea sounds good in theory, but then again, I've only refilled mine about 6 times (each).
Of course, I'm very careful to hit the hole just right...
yeah, i wouldnt use a sharp needle. after a couple of fills you'll probably mangle the fill hole.
i wonder if the long blunt needles that come in printer cartridge refill kits are the right size....
Hey all,
I like the idea of using a sharp needle to create the fisrt small hole.......then a blunt needle to keep from making multiple punctures that would wear out the seal.
I like the idea of using a sharp needle to create the fisrt small hole.......then a blunt needle to keep from making multiple punctures that would wear out the seal.
You may be right. My idea sounds good in theory, but then again, I've only refilled mine about 6 times (each).
Of course, I'm very careful to hit the hole just right...
Fwiw I fill with a pointed needle also. Just makes sense to me that a very small puncture is better than punching out a hole with a blunt tip needle. Of course one has to be careful to hit the hole just right.
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Boy, we sure can have fun with that one !!!!
Iv'e been using a sharp needle thus far with no issues, but I've only refilled a half dozen times.
The more I play with the Phoenix's, the more I like em'. One of the ones I had, finally lost it's vape (RY4). So I took it apart, gave it the old "Everclear,dryburn,rinse,prime" treatment, and she hits just like new..
"Life is good"
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhh mwa.....I love the pics!!! I used to work with dolphins and sea lions, and studied whales for years, so I am crazy about marine mammals. My dream one day is to go to Maui/Lahaina when the humpbacks are there. Then an Alaskan cruise to see Orcas, Grays and hopefully Narwhals.
I too had been wondering if you could refill the phoenix's before they were completely empty, but making sure that the needle stays in the liquid seems to make perfect sense.
Another thread a couple of folks were saying to be sure you DON'T use sharp needles. I didn't ask, but I do expect that had to do with the fact that perhaps they punctured additional holes.
I too had been wondering if you could refill the phoenix's before they were completely empty, but making sure that the needle stays in the liquid seems to make perfect sense.
Another thread a couple of folks were saying to be sure you DON'T use sharp needles. I didn't ask, but I do expect that had to do with the fact that perhaps they punctured additional holes.
My understanding was, from what Bad was saying, that the hole is pre-made, and that there is a small "flipper" on the bottom of it? If so, a sharp needle would damage it and/or enlarge the hole, in which case vacuum could be lost. I actually did do it with a sharp needle, and, in fact, am sure that I punched a new hole in there, because I couldn't thread it through the existing hole and lost patience.
And it did leak on me, eventually, but not badly. I also mutilated those seals with the sharp dental pick getting them out - again, no patience. I'm pretty amazed I didn't get dumped on catastrophically. LOL
However, just to make all of us seal-mutilators feel better, Bad did promise to have those seals sold separately.
So does anybody have the inside scoop on when there is going to be a restock of these things? I thought I heard someone say it would be this week. Is this still the case?
If anyone is looking to buy needles and syringes I got mine from here:
Needles
They have 20 guage
I use a longer needle to draw my juice up into my 12 ML/cc syringe and then install the blunt needle that comes with the Phx to fill so there is no need to go out and buy blunt needles. Syringes are great to use for DIY mixing too
Needles
They have 20 guage
I use a longer needle to draw my juice up into my 12 ML/cc syringe and then install the blunt needle that comes with the Phx to fill so there is no need to go out and buy blunt needles. Syringes are great to use for DIY mixing too
Yesterday evening, bad said that the phoenix's are "days away", and around 2 am said, a couple of days they should be up
Well, just be smart why dontchya?? lol Duhhh that's one of those smack yourself in the head V-8 moments!
Are you in Cali? I think that might just be a Cali thing, because they wouldn't sell me any either. They said it was against the law, unless you're a diabetic with a prescription...I think eBay has them though.
I have seen it posted that some states require a Rx for needles and/or syringes. Not sure which states have these laws.
everyone wants phoenix's , but have you all been good boys and girls, thats the more important question.lololol
looks like phoenixs both bottom, and top coil and 3ml with sleeve and the new sleevless, might be going up tonight
looks like phoenixs both bottom, and top coil and 3ml with sleeve and the new sleevless, might be going up tonight
Yippeee.....I'm logged in. Now....tonite is a relative term. For me it is still tonite, but do you mean tomorrow night, tonite? lol Is today my tomorrow or am I on your yesterday? Did I make both your eyes jump into the same socket??? Put the phonix's up and I'll quit typing. hehehe
If the delivery guys behave today they will go up probbly early this evening
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