The Prodigy Blowing Atomizers [Fact vs. Fiction]

[CaSHMeRe]

Hey Guys .... Since everyone and their grandmother believe the Prodigy can somehow blow their atomizers (that did NOT include user error) I thought I would go over some facts ... instead of the constant streamline of rumors.

FACT #A:
The Prodigy can not blow an atomizer on its own. If a short is caused by an adapter or an atomizer twisted on too hard, it would heat up the resistor and/or batteries.

FACT #B:
If there is a short (in the adapter) it will NOT KILL YOUR ATOMIZERS. It will heat up the batteries and/or resistor.

FACT #C:
The Prodigy doesn't slice the silicone causing the atomizer to short ... The user twisting it on to hard causes the silicone within the atomizer to get cut and short.

RUMOR #A
The resistor can kill an atomizer ... O RLY' ?!?!? How?

RUMOR #B
Voltage Killed My Atomizer ... Ok, perhaps, 1 in 100 atty's this could be true. Then again, it comes down to maintenance, keeping it lubed up at all times, and allowing for cool down periods.

Again, there is not a single way an atomizer can be killed that DOES NOT INVOLVE USER ERROR (minus the slim 1% chance the atomizer couldn't take the higher voltage for short spans). Even a shorted adapter is just that ... a shorted adapter, not a blown atomizer...

TYPES OF USER ERROR:
1) Tightening the atomizer on to the adapter too tight.
2) Pressing and holding the button down longer than recommended times.
3) Overuse without letting it cool down.
4) Overuse without keeping liquid pumping through the atomizer at all times.

There ... Hopefully Black and White enough for everyone to understand

 

[Fusoya]

I'm two weeks in and still going strong on the atomizers I got...

Ok, well on one of them I'm having an issue of it not doing anything but I think it's a contact problem and I'm going to try the staple mod as it's still registering with my multimeter.

Thanks for taking the time to address this stuff though Steve.

Brandon

 

[CaSHMeRe]

p.s. -- filming casey quick to show how to properly put on and take off atomizer ...

 

[Zofryer]

I've blown one atomizer, and it was embarrassing user error. It went something like this:

"Wow, french pipe doesn't taste so bad now. It's got kind of a smoky thing going on. I almost like this now."

*POP*!

"Oh. Atty was dry."

 

[Surf Monkey]

For what it's worth, I was expecting to burn up 510 atomizers due to the fact that they run hot to begin with and I was used to cranking them for 7 - 8 seconds on the stock batteries. Turns out that the three I've used so far handle the 5v load just fine. I had to alter my technique (I was so in the habit of pre-heating the atomizer for a second or two that it took some conscious thought to stop doing that with the Prodigy) but now that I'm comfortable with it the atomizers actually heat up less than they do with the stock battery. I'm holding the switch down for a shorter period of time. I'd say that I give them 3 - 5 seconds per drag and a good 15 - 20 seconds between draws. Even a quite old and (I thought) weak atomizer I've had in rotation is working practically as well on the Prodigy as the brand new one that came with it.

So, yeah. At least as far as the 510 configuration goes, it's been clear sailing for me.

 

[CaSHMeRe]

Casey just made the vid ... uploading as we speak, should be made public within the next couple of hours!

 

[Fusoya]

I've blown one atomizer, and it was embarrassing user error. It went something like this:

"Wow, french pipe doesn't taste so bad now. It's got kind of a smoky thing going on. I almost like this now."

*POP*!

"Oh. Atty was dry."

Awesome.

Brandon

 

[windex]

Just wanted to throw out there that after my first mystery atomizer failure everything's been fine.

 

[Gibby]

I've blown one atomizer, and it was embarrassing user error. It went something like this:

"Wow, french pipe doesn't taste so bad now. It's got kind of a smoky thing going on. I almost like this now."

*POP*!

"Oh. Atty was dry."

Along those lines. I have derived a way that i personally use to determine if my atty is dry (aside from the obvious flavor difference, but a lot of people aren't attentive enough to notice this before its too late).

i use the following steps.

1. Hold the button down briefly, and listen for the sizzle.
2. let the button go, and listen for the sizzle.
3. If the sizzle didn't immediately stop after you let the button go, then your atty is probably too dry.

Keep in mind that the juice also serves the purpose of keep your atty's internal organs, so to speak, from getting too hot, and thus damaged.

take it for what its worth.

Gibby

 

[BiteMe]

Still on my 1st one... Haven't even bothered to rotate 'em this time. Who'd a thunk it?

 

[Gibby]

Still on my 1st one... Haven't even bothered to rotate 'em this time. Who'd a thunk it?

Haha, yeah i wish i could say the same, i am on my 2nd, but it was from running it too dry. typical, but here is what happened.

had dead batteries
flooded it, thinking it was too dry (when it was really the batteries)
realized it was the batteries, so i switched them
blew out the atty, and canned aired it.
didn't lube it enough before starting to vape again.

BAM

D
E
D

DEAD!

Gibby

 

[Enfield]

So, yeah. At least as far as the 510 configuration goes, it's been clear sailing for me.

Hey, Surf.

Are you dripping with the 510 or using 510 carts?
I've spent the morning dripping on the 510 PD, but think I prefer the dripping action on the 801. I am finally preparing to turn over the 510 PT (just arrived!) to the hubby, and am planning on setting up with carts, but am wondering what your take on the 510 is.

 

[Surf Monkey]

I've been doing both, but with emphasis on carts due to the fact that I'm frequently too busy to futz with it much. Dripping takes more time and attention.

As far as carts go, the only real difference between running 510 atomizers with the Prodigy versus the stock batteries is that you have to re-fill the cart more often. It chews through the liquid at about 1/3 again the rate as the stock batteries. But the result is a perfect hit practically every time. Where I'd have to mess with my 510 to get it hitting just right... and then only get a handful of good drags out of it before having to tweak it again (fluff out the filler, put on a new battery, give it longer pre-heats etc.) the Prodigy delivers a perfect hit each and every time. The moment it starts to thin out or get a little burnt tasting I know it's time to swap batteries (I usually go through two or three completely charged sets over the course of a 16 hour day) or refill the cart.

It seems to me that the Prodigy works pretty darn well with 510 atomizers + carts.

 

[Enfield]

I've been doing both, but with emphasis on carts due to the fact that I'm frequently too busy to futz with it much. Dripping takes more time and attention.

As far as carts go, the only real difference between running 510 atomizers with the Prodigy versus the stock batteries is that you have to re-fill the cart more often. It chews through the liquid at about 1/3 again the rate as the stock batteries. But the result is a perfect hit practically every time. Where I'd have to mess with my 510 to get it hitting just right... and then only get a handful of good drags out of it before having to tweak it again (fluff out the filler, put on a new battery, give it longer pre-heats etc.) the Prodigy delivers a perfect hit each and every time. The moment it starts to thin out or get a little burnt tasting I know it's time to swap batteries (I usually go through two or three completely charged sets over the course of a 16 hour day) or refill the cart.

It seems to me that the Prodigy works pretty darn well with 510 atomizers + carts.

Fantastic! Thanks for sharing you 510 experiences, Monk.

I'll be sending the old man with the 510 PT, a handful of prefilled carts and a needle-tipped bottle of liquid. He's been trained on how to top off, blow out the atty if needed, how to toke, etc. I'm starting him out on a blend of 24 mg Marlboro, Riskee and 555 (2:1:1). I think he should be pretty well pleased. I wish someone had set me up like that right from the get-go!

 

[smokie]

Hey Guys .... Since everyone and their grandmother believe the Prodigy can somehow blow their atomizers (that did NOT include user error) I thought I would go over some facts ... instead of the constant streamline of rumors.

FACT #A:
The Prodigy can not blow an atomizer on its own. If a short is caused by an adapter or an atomizer twisted on too hard, it would heat up the resistor and/or batteries.

FACT #B:
If there is a short (in the adapter) it will NOT KILL YOUR ATOMIZERS. It will heat up the batteries and/or resistor.

FACT #C:
The Prodigy doesn't slice the silicone causing the atomizer to short ... The user twisting it on to hard causes the silicone within the atomizer to get cut and short.

RUMOR #A
The resistor can kill an atomizer ... O RLY' ?!?!? How?

RUMOR #B
Voltage Killed My Atomizer ... Ok, perhaps, 1 in 100 atty's this could be true. Then again, it comes down to maintenance, keeping it lubed up at all times, and allowing for cool down periods.

Again, there is not a single way an atomizer can be killed that DOES NOT INVOLVE USER ERROR (minus the slim 1% chance the atomizer couldn't take the higher voltage for short spans). Even a shorted adapter is just that ... a shorted adapter, not a blown atomizer...

TYPES OF USER ERROR:
1) Tightening the atomizer on to the adapter too tight.
2) Pressing and holding the button down longer than recommended times.
3) Overuse without letting it cool down.
4) Overuse without keeping liquid pumping through the atomizer at all times.

There ... Hopefully Black and White enough for everyone to understand

I read all your threads, watched your video, before using my Prodigy, followed you instructions, and still blew out 3 Brand new 901 Atomizers, each at the first puff.
But the 801 works, when it wants to, and the button sticks, you can hear the sizzling way after it is released using the 801.
Out $35.00 for those 3 atomizers $10- each $5- for shipping. I am not going to use it at all now, how much more $$$ can I lose in a second or two? Waiting for your answer.

 

[windex]

But the 801 works, when it wants to, and the button sticks, you can hear the sizzling way after it is released using the 801.

Just want to throw this out there - this is normal. The atomizer does not cool off immediately. You might have a unique issue, though.

I've never used a 901 on it so I can't address anything else you've raised, but in my experience, if you're holding down the button more than 2-3 seconds on the 801 you're holding it too long, and I've heard people say it's even less time with the 901. Are you putting 5-6 good drops of fluid and waiting 30 seconds or so on a brand new atomizer?

 

[andel11]

I read all your threads, watched your video, before using my Prodigy, followed you instructions, and still blew out 3 Brand new 901 Atomizers, each at the first puff.
But the 801 works, when it wants to, and the button sticks, you can hear the sizzling way after it is released using the 801.
Out $35.00 for those 3 atomizers $10- each $5- for shipping. I am not going to use it at all now, how much more $$$ can I lose in a second or two? Waiting for your answer.

I got my Prodigy today also make sure I read your above thread and didn't twist it on too tight did like everyone said didn't hold the button for more than 5 seconds on the 901, but still just like smokie, the 1st atomizer lasted for 3 puffs then blew, it also got hot, then i put on another blew after the first. I can't image we are both doing exactly the same thing. The 801 works fine. I had read TommyGuns post about the batteries RCR123a vs the CR2- which keep the 901 atomizer from getting too hot, I wonder if this is the problem. I agree thats a lot of money I have wasted in just a few seconds/minutes.

 

[happily]

Not to jump in here with no knowledge but someone needs to look up the definition of the word FACT or take a poll of atomizer's from OEM vs. MOD.


Twisting it on too tight??????????//


What is that?/

 

[Papa Lazarou]

5 seconds on a 901 might be too much. You get good vapour with 2-3 seconds. Start with short bursts and build up if needed. Also are these new ats? If so did you prime them with a couple of drops of liquid first?

Theoretically two 3v CR2's will perform the same as two CR123A's, just for less time. Seriously, if you are using it right it does not kill atomisers.

 

[happily]

5 seconds on a 901 might be too much. You get good vapour with 2-3 seconds. Start with short bursts and build up if needed. Also are these new ats? If so did you prime them with a couple of drops of liquid first?

Theoretically two 3v CR2's will perform the same as two CR123A's, just for less time. Seriously, if you are using it right it does not kill atomisers.

Any atomizer shoud withstand a 5-10 second burst........