The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)

[sandybeach]

if its earthy and not dirty would it be treey or grassy or flowery or oceany or lakey or volcanoy...etc? hahahaha what I mean is Tin-like? from the wizard of oz.... tin? and one more question sorry I just have to know does the Double Happy RY4 come with a Double Happy ending dang it never mind I see you say you may not get it again.....I like some Chinese RY4s is it in the Janty range or maybe its like RAF o please tell me its like RAF

Favorite.Post.Yet.

 

[sandybeach]

Ok guys, do we have to get divorced? I shamefully admit that I have not vaped an RY4 in over a month....

When I ran out of BWB RY4, I tried to go back to Dekang. Harsh. I'll have to go through my stash to see if anything is worth re-trying.

 

[On Target]

Ok guys, do we have to get divorced? I shamefully admit that I have not vaped an RY4 in over a month....

When I ran out of BWB RY4, I tried to go back to Dekang. Harsh. I'll have to go through my stash to see if anything is worth re-trying.

Sandy, for what it is worth, I have been vaping my mixture of BWB Hunters Blend Limited Edition and BWB Vanilla Bean all day long. I love this mixture. It has no caramel because my order of Dulce De Leche will not arrive until probably next week. I still have some BWB RY4 for comparison - this mixture is darn close, minus the caramel. But, I always felt Don's RY4 was heavier on vanilla than caramel anyway. Been mixing it in a Boge SR Carto 50/50, 18mg nic strength and set at 4 volts on my Provari. The tobacco is just a tad stronger than his RY4, but not much. The vanilla is really close to the same as far as my palate can tell. I am a happy vaper for now, until the new RY4 comes out.

 

[sandybeach]

Sandy, for what it is worth, I have been vaping my mixture of BWB Hunters Blend Limited Edition and BWB Vanilla Bean all day long. I love this mixture. It has no caramel because my order of Dulce De Leche will not arrive until probably next week. I still have some BWB RY4 for comparison - this mixture is darn close, minus the caramel. But, I always felt Don's RY4 was heavier on vanilla than caramel anyway. Been mixing it in a Boge SR Carto 50/50, 18mg nic strength and set at 4 volts on my Provari. The tobacco is just a tad stronger than his RY4, but not much. The vanilla is really close to the same as far as my palate can tell. I am a happy vaper for now, until the new RY4 comes out.

My very first order from BWB had Vanilla Bean in it. Egads, I was vaping 18 mg. then! Anyways I didn't like Vanilla Bean one bit. I didn't like anything I got from BWB the first two orders I got from them. Sounds good though. I'm thinking Copper Creek House Blend tasted an awful lot like BWB RY4, but I have been out of that one for awhile too so my memory may be wrong.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

Bill - Do you have Hangseng Essense RY4? I'm wondering how that compares to Tobacco Express Runyan 4.

 

[scarf-ace]

My very first order from BWB had Vanilla Bean in it. Egads, I was vaping 18 mg. then! Anyways I didn't like Vanilla Bean one bit. I didn't like anything I got from BWB the first two orders I got from them. Sounds good though. I'm thinking Copper Creek House Blend tasted an awful lot like BWB RY4, but I have been out of that one for awhile too so my memory may be wrong.

Sandy, I have House Blend. I love it to bits, and if it is indeed similar to BWB RY4 I will feel less bad about not trying the late masterpiece.

Just mixed up a batch of VapeKing VK4 last night. Will report back after steeping.

At the moment I am in the airport waiting for my three-hour delayed flight. I am discreetly vaping Voo's Brew and RYgar and Highbrow English malt. They are calming my frazzled nerves well

 

[ogredog]

Got some maddcatt ry4s on the way...and mom and pops (finally lol) o ya and some vapelicious twa...finally also lol

Tomorrow its all about Jim Bob's ry4 home brews! Yum!

 

[billherbst]

Bill - Do you have Hangseng Essense RY4? I'm wondering how that compares to Tobacco Express Runyan 4.

Cool,

Yes, I have a bottle of Hangsen Essence RY4 flavoring that's now almost ten months old. Here's what I wrote about it back in April in the post "DIY RY4 Roundup---a short list" (post #1492, link to that page of the thread below).

• RY4 Essence by Hangsen: One of the two Chinese entries in diy RY4. This one’s weird. I have this in two bottles, one with a real Hangsen label (from ecigexpress), the other labeled Liberty-Flights. Exact same concentrate in both, though. I also have the retail Hangsen RY4 pre-mixed juice that is supposedly made from this concentrate, but that juice is golden colored, while the flavoring is perfectly clear. Yes, I know that flavorings often darken when nicotine is added, but that didn’t happen here. The juice I made remained clear, even at 24mg. And it didn’t taste like much, especially compared to Hangsen’s retail juice, which is quite nice. Bad batch of flavoring? I doubt it. Just weak and nondescript. I can’t believe that this flavoring is what Hangsen uses for its RY4. Thumbs down.
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I'll make up a small bottle and let you know after a week of steeping (which seems required for most diy juices) how Hangsen Essence RY4 compares to Tobacco Express "Damon Runyon 4". LOL. Sorry, I couldn't resist...

 

[ogredog]

Well crud passer is right, you look up earthy in the dictionary and its basically coarse sexual humor or well, dirt...or dirt smelling though there are slight variations aka something natural

I usually mean it as a low, dark, sometimes musty or woody/woodsy taste but I guess that's kind of incorrect.

Boy I bet your all so glad I have such an inquisitive mind lol

 

[billherbst]

Well crud passer is right, you look up earthy in the dictionary and its basically coarse sexual humor or well, dirt...or dirt smelling though there are slight variations aka something natural

I usually mean it as a low, dark, sometimes musty or woody/woodsy taste but I guess that's kind of incorrect.

Boy I bet your all so glad I have such an inquisitive mind lol

Well, now that we know that, there are about a thousand tobacco juice reviews that need editing. LOL.

 

[lettucehead]

I DO actually appreciate that you have an inquisitive mind!

I just looked it up in Merriam-Webster and got -
of, relating to earth
suggestive of earth (as in texture, odor, or color)
rough or plain in taste
plain or simple in style

The Wees Dictionary has it as
not far removed from or suggestive of nature
hearty
sensible and practical


Personally, I go back to what Bill said WAY back when about the difficulty of describing taste - the only way to describe it is to liken it to something else or use words that convey texture. For instance, colors - how would you describe 'yellow'?

When I describe something as 'earthy', I am using it in the same terms as Ogredog - relating to earth, hearty. I also think of 'deep' and 'with depth'

Well crud passer is right, you look up earthy in the dictionary and its basically coarse sexual humor or well, dirt...or dirt smelling though there are slight variations aka something natural

I usually mean it as a low, dark, sometimes musty or woody/woodsy taste but I guess that's kind of incorrect.

Boy I bet your all so glad I have such an inquisitive mind lol

 

[thehangdude]

This RY4 does not have an "earthy" tobacco, but it is not "tinny" either. Mr. Vape uses a typical American tobacco to make their classic Chinese styled RY4. The tobacco is reminiscent of BWB's RY4, but that is where their commonality ends. Mr. Vape uses a bright vanilla and a moderate amount of caramel, then they add a generous amount of malto sweetener.

This is not a rich dessert Ry4. It has the Chinese Koolaid flavor, but it is not as sweet as some. The vanilla and caramel are bright flavors, not the rich, creamy flavors of many American blends. The tobacco is what saves this RY4 from being like the many other Chinese versions. Tobacco is also the strongest of the three flavors (though not by enough).

The three flavors are all I get from this blend, and they blend nicely. This is probably my favorite of all the oriental type RY4s because of its rich tobacco. I would like it to have a bit less of the sweetener, but it is very good as is.

Will I buy Mr. Vape RY4? Probably not, but I'm glad Bill has reviewed this already (post #1600). I will finish this bottle happily. And I am looking forward to trying Mr. Vape Special Blend and Special Blend Menthol. I hope they used the same tobacco base. It is very good.

 

[passerbyeus]

Ok I will explain myself, not sure who started earthy to describe juices but when I first saw it I was like earthy omg they are right it taste just like dirt hahaha so I just figured that is what earthy was for a juice and to me that is what it tasted like. Since I have been vaping I have found about 3 common tobacco taste in RY4s and this is with most vendors. I have put a label on them to what I think they taste like.
DIRT, the way cat pee smells, and I have no idea what that is.... it just sucks!!!. So my purchasing of RY4 has slowed down because unless vendors make a new tobacco base most all the vendors are using the same tobacco flavorings. And really these tobaccos are easy to find without having to spend money to try them, here is what passerbyeus secret is. When I first come upon a vendors site I look at the juices pictures and if I see the same old smoking guns, more than likely this vendor is like everyone else. Here are some examples. Cinnamon Roll, blueberry, bananas fosters, vanilla, waffle, etc etc.....but one must be careful because the vendor will like to trick you and give the juice a fancy name like Wet and Wild Watermelon or Orgasmic Cheesecake...you see how that could be very tricky ? So my lesson is over and I wish you happy RY4 hunting!!!

 

[passerbyeus]

I am so happy!!! I found someone who thinks Tribeca has a sage taste also.......

This is what KDude said in a review of Tribeca "I've seen people puzzled by your description before, but I think I know what you're talking about.

Take the nic down a notch. At least that worked for me. I don't get sausage, but I kind of recognize the sage. For me, 18mg is the highest I'd go. You get a nice chinese like RY4, but with richer ingredients"


and he is correct I vape 6mg .....see Im not going crazy

 

[Roxxette]

Dont shake tribecca bottle

 

[lettucehead]

Dont shake tribecca bottle

Why not?

Just wondering...

Is it part nitro?

 

[billherbst]

specs: Our esteemed colleague Cool_Breeze sent me a 3ml sample of RWVapors RY4 for review (thanks, Cool!). The liquid---18ml nic strength in an unspecified base blend---was in an opaque white bottle, so I didn’t get a very good look at the color as I filled the carto drop by drop, but, from the appearance of the saturated batting at the top of the carto, I think it’s a very light color. Testing was done using a Boge 2.1 ohm LR carto powered by a Vector VV (a Young-June Vtube v1.5t) set to 4.3 volts, for a power output of 8.8 watts.

On the front page of the RWVapors site is a banner proclaiming that “All our juices are made to order here in the USA, from USA sourced ingredients.” Whenever I read a similar statement on a vendor site, I always hope for their sakes that 3ml sample bottles aren’t being mixed one at a time. Besides the inherent difficulty of accurate mixing of ingredients in such small bottles, preparing 100 or 200 3ml sample bottles would be an extraordinary pain in the ..... LOL.

I’ve not vaped any of RWVapors' niquids before, but I can happily report that I liked their RY4 right from the very first toke. In my not-so-humble and utterly biased opinion, this is what an RY4 is supposed to taste like! Since I was typing as I began vaping it, I didn’t even realize how terrific it was until about two minutes in.

But then, that’s how I’m wired: If a juice is not so great in general or has specific flavor elements or a mix I don’t like, my brain goes immediately to DefCon 2---red alert. I can’t ever vape a juice I don’t like without recognizing my displeasure right off. By contrast, really great juices that please my palate make my brain relax and take a siesta. And that’s what RWVapors RY4 did. I'd almost finished the second paragraph before I suddenly realized how much I was enjoying the experience. Mmm-Mmm, good!---as they used to say in Campbell’s Soup Advertising Land.

This juice is so pleasing to me that I’m not much inclined to analyze the flavor components or mix---why gild the lily?---but I’ll do a little of that just for the sake of the review. This is a custom RY4 (meaning darker-toned in flavor profile rather than bright and sparkly, and with a really good tobacco flavor with a lovely bite, as opposed to the what-is-this generic tobacco of certain Chinese RY4s---and some American ones, too). It uses the three essential RY4 ingredients.

In this RY4, the core flavors of tobacco, caramel, and vanilla (no nuts) are so happy with and well-suited to each other that I can’t categorize it as balanced and unified or not. The flavors play well together, each contributing its own element that is easily recognized, and the result is an overall taste that is completely complementary, with the flavors folding around each other in a yummy embrace.

Now, I’m not as good as thehangdude or ogredog in discerning the signature of artificial sweeteners. Heck, I often can’t tell the difference between ethyl maltol and Sucralose. About the only sweetener I can always identify is honey. Despite my lack of expertise in this area, however, I can report that RWVapor has a pleasing sweetness that is very calm, subtle, and not at all over-the-top. This is definitely not a dessert vape.

Please understand, I’m not suggesting that this is a spectacular RY4 that will blow your socks off and make you run around the coffee table in excitement, so don’t scramble to get some because you think I’ve judged it as the long-lost Dekang Holy Grail or the eagerly-awaited replacement for BWB RY4 (LOL). It’s not that kind of juice.

RWVapors RY4 is a pleasing, calm, and relaxing juice experience, an RY4 with no flaws or off-notes, nothing to detract from the pure pleasure of well-matched flavors. This juice is among a couple of RY4s I’ve tried recently that are so good I would almost consider adding them to my stable of daily vapes. For me, that’s saying something.

RWVapors RY4: Grade - A

Link to purchase: RWVapors RY4

 

[ogredog]

In the ever continuing searches for new, improved, unique ry4s and juices in general I would like to ask that you all try and contribute to this thread here.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...n/318525-new-juice-vendor-s-vendor-links.html

My hopes are that some of us can post new, or obscure or unheard of LINKS to vendors for others (and ourselves) to try. If all you've got is a link to your favorite juice, or ry4 vendor cool post it! I really enjoy checking out, and trying new stuff so everything is appreciated. Just please check first to see if your link has Already been posted! Thanks

 

[thehangdude]

Bill, could it be possible that your taste for RY4 is coming back around?

 

[Roxxette]

Why not?

Just wondering...

Is it part nitro?

no nitro BUT if you dont shake it it "taste better" imo lol i guess the weird base of halo dont spread that way