The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)
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Fair enough. I was in a hurry when I read your newest list and completely missed the review further down. As for the description not matching the taste - website accuracy isn't high on their priority list
I'm glad you enjoyed it more than you expected to. Pity the SI version was delayed but maybe it will be different enough to warrant a rank of it's own.
I actually prefer SI's Ry4 to Bloog's -- and not every 808 user is a noob. Good juice is good juice!
Yes, I understand that many longtime vapers love 808s. It's just that Bloog's web site is clearly designed to capture the huge untapped market of new vapers or those just now grappling with the decision to try vaping. That marketing strategy is a business decision and carries no implication that Bloog's products are shoddy or not first-rate. It's just not my niche.
Janty's bottles read "Joye" for JANTY is JOYE's Department of Design. From what I hear; officially stated by Janty, they Design Joye's stuff... And the very stuff Janty brands has special 'attention' standards, so to speak...
In case this has not been answered... Sorry if this was mentioned before but I haven't yet read the entire thread... Which I will as soon as I have a minute... Great thread BTW !!!
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Thank you for the explanation. I did not know that Janty and Joye were basically the same company.
I bought a few of these on your strong recommendations and I have to say that the Tribeca is pretty dang impressive sir. Oddly enough, you didn't like it that much. this was my first Halo purchase and I definitely love it and the Freedom I got. I guess I'm a bug spray lover too. haha Who'da thunk it? The LX is pretty fine as well. Awesome list
Just got some vr4. Do you have to let this thing steep because the flavor I'm getting is off. I don't get the supposed tobacco or caramel. I get something that is completely different. Don't wanna offend any vr4 fans so I'm just gonna keep that to myself for now.
Tribeca is one my top favorites, I do enjoy Freedom and am getting into Torque too, though I find that more of an acquired taste. I did get into IKV RY4 based on the thread and enjoy it a lot. (I don't have a rating system, but I do notice that my top juices rotate in more often than others, especially ones I've had for a while). Newly acquired juices get more airplay at first, right?
Same here. There was a very distinct flavor that I didn't particularly like. I couldn't my finger on it but definitely not tobacco or caramel. It's been steeping for almost 7 weeks now.
Loving BWB RY4 and Ikenvape Gold RY4! I got both the IKV pg and vg versions. Trying not to finish off my BWB RY4 as well.
Just read the op again and the Vaperite Organic VR4 is macerated tobacco and caramel. Could this macerated tobacco flavor be the distinct flavor that I taste?
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ceegary and marcalbar,
This problem presents itself time and time again. I have wondered for a long time now if people who love a certain juice---in this case, Vaperite VR4 (and I count myself among those who love it)---are vaping the same juice as others who find something off about their bottle of identical juice from the same vendor. The only way to know for sure would be to trade sample bottles, but that is a major pain in the you-know-what, involving time, effort, and expense.
I'm sure vendors try to make every batch uniform, but the notion of "bad batches" comes up frequently among users. "Taste is subjective" is certainly true, but does it cover every base? I don't know. I do know that I've tried some juices that were highly praised and much loved by ECF members, but after a reasonable re-testing and time allowed for steeping, I wouldn't vape those particular juices if you paid me.
I've read at least a couple of posts by disappointed users who contacted the vendors and received replacement bottles that were significantly better, so that may be an option worth pursuing. Todd at Vaperite seems very attentive to his customers' needs.
Sometimes I just apply the "Life is too Short" rule: If I don't like a certain juice, I don't sweat it. I just put it away and move on. I've got whole drawers full of juices I'll probably never vape again. That's one of the good things about having 35 RY4s on the Big List---lots of choices.
This problem presents itself time and time again. I have wondered for a long time now if people who love a certain juice---in this case, Vaperite VR4 (and I count myself among those who love it)---are vaping the same juice as others who find something off about their bottle of identical juice from the same vendor. The only way to know for sure would be to trade sample bottles, but that is a major pain in the you-know-what, involving time, effort, and expense.
I'm sure vendors try to make every batch uniform, but the notion of "bad batches" comes up frequently among users. "Taste is subjective" is certainly true, but does it cover every base? I don't know. I do know that I've tried some juices that were highly praised and much loved by ECF members, but after a reasonable re-testing and time allowed for steeping, I wouldn't vape those particular juices if you paid me.
I've read at least a couple of posts by disappointed users who contacted the vendors and received replacement bottles that were significantly better, so that may be an option worth pursuing. Todd at Vaperite seems very attentive to his customers' needs.
Sometimes I just apply the "Life is too Short" rule: If I don't like a certain juice, I don't sweat it. I just put it away and move on. I've got whole drawers full of juices I'll probably never vape again. That's one of the good things about having 35 RY4s on the Big List---lots of choices.
I've been following two threads this month---one in this forum and another in the New Members Forum---that detail the various troubles ECF members are having with the vendor Ozark Fresh. Orders placed and paid for get no email confirmation and don't arrive for weeks (or worse, never arrive). Attempts to contact the vendor get either no responses at all or responses that are unsatisfactory to customers who have posted on the threads.
If this were one or two disgrunted individuals, I might dismiss it. But we're talking about not just a couple but numerous ECF members, implying that something is definitely amiss with the people who own and run Ozark Fresh.
Such problems with vendors are rare, thankfully, but they do come up from time to time. Some months ago, an ECF supplier named Brad Smith offered an inexpensive box mod that got some buzz on the forums for being a great deal. I was one of many people who subsequently ordered a box mod from Mr. Smith, who then mysteriously vanished, and---as far as I know---has not been heard from since. That produced a huge thread of disappointed, unhappy, and occasionally very angry customers, all of whom were ripped off.
One of the things I love about vaping is that it's still largely a cottage industry, and therefore more akin to a community market than an impersonal mega-corporate endeavor. By and large, vendors in this industry aren't like Best Buy or Office Max. Many are mom and pop operations, and the friendly social relationships we form with them are part of the goodness of vaping. I understand that Life can throw anyone a nasty curve at any time, but when that results in business screw-ups, we all suffer.
I am sure that some ECF members ordered from Ozark Fresh because of my review of Kentucky Burley RY4, which was initially highly ranked (#2 in the original Rankings), although it has fallen now to the middle of the pack (#14) as other RY4s surpassed it, either because they were added to the list after the original post or because steeping improved existing RY4s in my estimation.
While I don't feel personally responsible for the troubles people are having with this vendor---since my review was offered in good faith and the issues began weeks afterward---I do feel involved and sympathetic.
As a result, I've decided to suspend Ozark Fresh Kentucky Burley RY4 and remove it from the list, at least for now. If the problems are eventually resolved in a positive way---meaning good for customers and good for Ozark Fresh---I will reinstate Kentucky Burley RY4. If not, it will simply become another curious footnote in RY4 history.
Please understand, I can't edit the original post. Posts are editable only for a day or two after their initial listing, then the "Edit Post" button vanishes. I will, however, remove Ozark Fresh from all future Rankings and Group Categories.
If this were one or two disgrunted individuals, I might dismiss it. But we're talking about not just a couple but numerous ECF members, implying that something is definitely amiss with the people who own and run Ozark Fresh.
Such problems with vendors are rare, thankfully, but they do come up from time to time. Some months ago, an ECF supplier named Brad Smith offered an inexpensive box mod that got some buzz on the forums for being a great deal. I was one of many people who subsequently ordered a box mod from Mr. Smith, who then mysteriously vanished, and---as far as I know---has not been heard from since. That produced a huge thread of disappointed, unhappy, and occasionally very angry customers, all of whom were ripped off.
One of the things I love about vaping is that it's still largely a cottage industry, and therefore more akin to a community market than an impersonal mega-corporate endeavor. By and large, vendors in this industry aren't like Best Buy or Office Max. Many are mom and pop operations, and the friendly social relationships we form with them are part of the goodness of vaping. I understand that Life can throw anyone a nasty curve at any time, but when that results in business screw-ups, we all suffer.
I am sure that some ECF members ordered from Ozark Fresh because of my review of Kentucky Burley RY4, which was initially highly ranked (#2 in the original Rankings), although it has fallen now to the middle of the pack (#14) as other RY4s surpassed it, either because they were added to the list after the original post or because steeping improved existing RY4s in my estimation.
While I don't feel personally responsible for the troubles people are having with this vendor---since my review was offered in good faith and the issues began weeks afterward---I do feel involved and sympathetic.
As a result, I've decided to suspend Ozark Fresh Kentucky Burley RY4 and remove it from the list, at least for now. If the problems are eventually resolved in a positive way---meaning good for customers and good for Ozark Fresh---I will reinstate Kentucky Burley RY4. If not, it will simply become another curious footnote in RY4 history.
Please understand, I can't edit the original post. Posts are editable only for a day or two after their initial listing, then the "Edit Post" button vanishes. I will, however, remove Ozark Fresh from all future Rankings and Group Categories.
Hey Bill I did order from Ozarkfresh at the beginning of last month. I ordered the ry because of your list and it took 2 weeks to get it so I put in a follow up order and this time it was almost 3 weeks and the sad thing about this is the ry isnt bad but the guy lives in springfield and I am 2 hours away in KC. I have to say my three favorites so far are IKV (both pg and vg) and at the top is Quicknic. Thanks for putting in the time to do this. Bill
First let me say this has been a very helpful thread. However I did not read each page but over half and either missed it or did not go far enough. I am looking for an equal or as close as I can to the Dekang RY4 offered by Ecigexpress 30ml, 24mg and have not been able to find it. So I go back to where I found what I like. I have tried a few but no one has gotten close.
My question is this, who has tried the Dekang from ECIG Express RY4 and whos is the most comparable? Again if i missed it or just did not go far enough my apologies.
My question is this, who has tried the Dekang from ECIG Express RY4 and whos is the most comparable? Again if i missed it or just did not go far enough my apologies.
Bill, you meant washvap on this, not me. I really like VS4. Some juice suppliers replicate their flavors with expensive machinery that dispenses precise measurements of each component and it's unlikely their batches would vary. VS is made in India, not sure of the QC there but I've never noticed a difference in the few different bottles of the same flavor I've vaped from them. They do have a distinctive base, such as Halo, BWB, AVE & KBV for eg, and not everyone likes those bases and will effect their thoughts on a particular juice.
I did get some fairly acrid juices from one well-known supplier and they answered my post, indignant at the concept of a "bad batch", saying they'd heard that from customers but it doesn't really happen. Airing out the bottles and letting them sleep for a couple of weeks did change the juice and solve the issue, though the suppliers had offered to work with me.
If you've got juices you're never going to vape again, may I suggest placing them in the PIF thread...either http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-you-must-read-rules-before-posting-here.html where you can pick up stuff you like first or just gift them here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-you-must-read-rules-before-posting-here.html
I too had ordered from Brad Smith and the thing to add is that a group of ECFers got together to accept donations, build some mods and get some juice out to those who weren't able to reclaim their $ from Paypal, (I was able to reclaim). What a superb pontification of how great this board is!!!
I did get some fairly acrid juices from one well-known supplier and they answered my post, indignant at the concept of a "bad batch", saying they'd heard that from customers but it doesn't really happen. Airing out the bottles and letting them sleep for a couple of weeks did change the juice and solve the issue, though the suppliers had offered to work with me.
If you've got juices you're never going to vape again, may I suggest placing them in the PIF thread...either http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-you-must-read-rules-before-posting-here.html where you can pick up stuff you like first or just gift them here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-you-must-read-rules-before-posting-here.html
I too had ordered from Brad Smith and the thing to add is that a group of ECFers got together to accept donations, build some mods and get some juice out to those who weren't able to reclaim their $ from Paypal, (I was able to reclaim). What a superb pontification of how great this board is!!!
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