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The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)
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Searching Madapes for 11mg yields a lot of juice results. Searching for 12mg yields, "Your search returns no results."
Standing in the presence of long timers I offer this...
EVC has 20% off 'Dekang' juices e-Liquid | e-Juice - Dekang E-Liquid | E-Juice - Dekang Tobacco Flavored E-Liquid | E-Juice - EVcigarettes.com
This only because I don't see EVC Dekang RY4 on The Really Big RY4 Roundup OR sub-cat RY4s not yet acquired for review
. Dekang RY4 (Sweet Tobacco) E-Liquid | 10mL - EVcigarettes.com
Not having any idea where they get their juice or if they mod it in house. does anyone know if any of it is any good?
I also found the Dekang Gold & Silver Tobacco (B&H) E-Liquid | 10mL - EVcigarettes.com on another site and they said shipped from China and standard mix is 20PG/80VG.
Is there a standard 'China Issue PG/VG' ratio for Dekang RY4 or Hangsen RY4?
I went to EVC 'cause they have a Stainless 650mah Kanger Evod kit on sale for 29.99 (stainless only till Dec 02) Other colors are 44.43 reduced from 69.99 Kanger eVod 650mAh BC Clearomizer Starter Kit - EVcigarettes.com
EVC has 20% off 'Dekang' juices e-Liquid | e-Juice - Dekang E-Liquid | E-Juice - Dekang Tobacco Flavored E-Liquid | E-Juice - EVcigarettes.com
This only because I don't see EVC Dekang RY4 on The Really Big RY4 Roundup OR sub-cat RY4s not yet acquired for review
. Dekang RY4 (Sweet Tobacco) E-Liquid | 10mL - EVcigarettes.com
Not having any idea where they get their juice or if they mod it in house. does anyone know if any of it is any good?
I also found the Dekang Gold & Silver Tobacco (B&H) E-Liquid | 10mL - EVcigarettes.com on another site and they said shipped from China and standard mix is 20PG/80VG.
Is there a standard 'China Issue PG/VG' ratio for Dekang RY4 or Hangsen RY4?
I went to EVC 'cause they have a Stainless 650mah Kanger Evod kit on sale for 29.99 (stainless only till Dec 02) Other colors are 44.43 reduced from 69.99 Kanger eVod 650mAh BC Clearomizer Starter Kit - EVcigarettes.com
Any Dekang eliquid should taste exactly the same, regardless of the vendor from which it was purchased. Dekang does not sell any flavoring concentrates or bulk eliquid. As a wholesale manufacturer, Dekang bottles all its own liquid.
The Dekang eliquid sold by EVCigs is manufactured and bottled at a Dekang production facility in China. Read this: Dekang Eliquids from EVCigarettes
The one caveat to what I wrote above has to do with when any eliquid was produced by Dekang. Dekang eliquids in any particular flavor and nicotine percentage that were produced at the same time should be identical. That cannot be guaranteed of the same flavor Dekang eliquid produced at other times, because Dekang changes the formulations of its liquids from time to time.
Numerous versions (meaning recipe revisions and reformulations) of RY4 have been sold by Dekang over the years. Only one Dekang RY4 appears on The Big RY4 List, however, because Dekang does not note its various versions nor inform the public when it reformulates its eliquids, so no method exists to objectively identify or verify an earlier version from a later one.
Over my three years on ECF, I've read much speculation on the boards regarding "authentic" Dekang eliquids versus "counterfeit" or "black market" Dekang. I've never known whether those speculations have any basis in fact.
Dekang produces eliquids using bases of PG, VG, and various blend ratios. Different lines of Dekang eliquids often use different bases. No single base or blend ratio is "standard."
Unlike Dekang, Hangsen markets both bottled juices for the retail marketplace and flavoring concentrates. I don't know Hangsen's policies regarding either authorized vendors or base blends.
Appreciate the sharing billherbst. Looking forward to trying some new classic RY4, and it's cheap. Hope it's money well spent. AND I need the batteries.
The 30ml bottle of Gambler that was sent to me for free from MountainOakVapors (thanks, Steve!) contains a golden-colored transparent liquid at 18mg nic strength in an unspecified base blend. Viscosity of the liquid is very thick, so I assume the base to contain a high percentage of VG (the description below from MOV confirms this). Nose of the juice is very clean---strikingingly so---with an aroma that is almost-but-not-quite what I might call disinfectant fresh. However unexpected that may be, the subtle scent is pleasing, without any perfumey or chemical notes, and with no hint of alcohol. Testing was done using a 2.8 ohm Ultimate CE2 clearomizer and also by dripping into a 2.3 ohm JoyeTech 510SR atomizer, both powered by a VAMO v2 set to 9.0 watts RMS.
The description of Gambler from the product page on the MOV web site reads:
For what it's worth, I find that description to be spot-on in its accuracy. It might read like advertising hype, but it's the honest truth.
Interestingly, I didnt find Gambler to be particularly sweet vaped in the CE2 clearo. Just to be sure that wasnt caused by my hardware, I atty-dripped some. The sweetness came through more directly with the JoyeTech atomizer, but it wasnt overwhelming or cloying in the least. Also, the sweetness avoids tasting like mere added ethyl maltol, so it's not just tacked on. It augments the other flavors rather than obscuring them. I agree with MOVs description: Gambler "borders on dessert," but dances on that line very deftly.
Gambler isnt a Classic RY4, since it isnt bright or sparkly, the tobacco is definitely not neutral, and the overall flavor isn't unified. Happily, it works beautifully as a Custom RY4---deeper in tone, with each flavor easily discerned, and a synthetic cigarette-style tobacco that is very tasty and pleasing. The tobacco element isnt punchy or blunt, but it shines through with an obvious presence that complements the balanced caramel and vanilla and counterbalances the sweetness. The high-VG base gives Gambler a mouthfeel that's almost chewy---not literally, of course, but the "thickness" of flavor is substantial and delicious. Vaping doesnt get much closer than this to the experience of food. There is no nuttiness or sourness. Gambler relies totally on the RY4 Holy Trinity: tobacco, caramel, and vanilla.
I like Gambler considerably more than MOVs original RY4 offering---Classic CountRY-4. That juice used a tobacco flavor that was a bit too eccentric for my palate, while Gamblers tobacco is downright yummy. In addition, the overall flavor profile is more to my liking as well. This is one heck of a good Custom RY4, and a great example of artfully combining good flavors that play well together.
Im betting that most RY4 fans will like Gambler, even those who arent generally partial to sweeter RY4s, especially because it's less likely to grow tiresome, as some dessert-style RY4s do. For Custom RY4 lovers, Gambler is a definite winner and could easily compete as an all-day-vape.
MOV Gambler grade: A-
link to purchase: Gambler from MountainOakVapors
[Note: The MountainOakVapors regular web site seems to be on the fritz today, so Im linking to MOVs mobile site.]
The description of Gambler from the product page on the MOV web site reads:
Gambler was created out of the desire to make a tobacco flavor that everyone can enjoy. While this tobacco flavored e-liquid does border on dessert, it's traditional RY4 notes are grounded by a cigarette-like top note that makes for one unforgettable all day vape. This is the first Synthetic Tobacco to make it into our High VG line! We not only promise you have never tried ANYTHING that tastes like this, we can say with a reasonable amount of certainty that if you know when to hold 'em, you'll hang on to this e-juice!
For what it's worth, I find that description to be spot-on in its accuracy. It might read like advertising hype, but it's the honest truth.
Interestingly, I didnt find Gambler to be particularly sweet vaped in the CE2 clearo. Just to be sure that wasnt caused by my hardware, I atty-dripped some. The sweetness came through more directly with the JoyeTech atomizer, but it wasnt overwhelming or cloying in the least. Also, the sweetness avoids tasting like mere added ethyl maltol, so it's not just tacked on. It augments the other flavors rather than obscuring them. I agree with MOVs description: Gambler "borders on dessert," but dances on that line very deftly.
Gambler isnt a Classic RY4, since it isnt bright or sparkly, the tobacco is definitely not neutral, and the overall flavor isn't unified. Happily, it works beautifully as a Custom RY4---deeper in tone, with each flavor easily discerned, and a synthetic cigarette-style tobacco that is very tasty and pleasing. The tobacco element isnt punchy or blunt, but it shines through with an obvious presence that complements the balanced caramel and vanilla and counterbalances the sweetness. The high-VG base gives Gambler a mouthfeel that's almost chewy---not literally, of course, but the "thickness" of flavor is substantial and delicious. Vaping doesnt get much closer than this to the experience of food. There is no nuttiness or sourness. Gambler relies totally on the RY4 Holy Trinity: tobacco, caramel, and vanilla.
I like Gambler considerably more than MOVs original RY4 offering---Classic CountRY-4. That juice used a tobacco flavor that was a bit too eccentric for my palate, while Gamblers tobacco is downright yummy. In addition, the overall flavor profile is more to my liking as well. This is one heck of a good Custom RY4, and a great example of artfully combining good flavors that play well together.
Im betting that most RY4 fans will like Gambler, even those who arent generally partial to sweeter RY4s, especially because it's less likely to grow tiresome, as some dessert-style RY4s do. For Custom RY4 lovers, Gambler is a definite winner and could easily compete as an all-day-vape.
MOV Gambler grade: A-
link to purchase: Gambler from MountainOakVapors
[Note: The MountainOakVapors regular web site seems to be on the fritz today, so Im linking to MOVs mobile site.]
That's good to hear about Gambler. I have Americano, one of their other new artibaccos that is also advertised as having a cig-like tobacco flavor, but that one is an espresso tobacco. I wonder if the new artis they offer use the same synthetic tobacco base. I found the tobacco flavor in Americano to be a VAST improvement over their now discontinued TNO which was sold as a straight synthetic tobacco as well as the base flavor to other discontinued flavored synthetic tobaccos they offered. The tobacco in Americano is much more of a neutral, natural cigarette flavor compared to the more tangy and obviously artificial tobacco flavor of TNO.
How different is the non-tobacco side of Gambler from their NET RY4, Full Virginia Flake? I wasn't a big fan of how the caramel and vanilla played in that one, I'm thinking the rich, buttery caramel is what made it not so great for me. Either way I still plan on getting Gambler, along with the rest of MOV's new synthetic tobaccos (plus the reformulated Blue Ridge which I'm guessing used the TNO base for it's tobacco side before the reformulation).
How different is the non-tobacco side of Gambler from their NET RY4, Full Virginia Flake? I wasn't a big fan of how the caramel and vanilla played in that one, I'm thinking the rich, buttery caramel is what made it not so great for me. Either way I still plan on getting Gambler, along with the rest of MOV's new synthetic tobaccos (plus the reformulated Blue Ridge which I'm guessing used the TNO base for it's tobacco side before the reformulation).
Jerms,
I agree that the change in MOV's synthetic tobacco base is positive and a definite improvement. I was not a big fan of their previous arti-bacco base. Right off the bat, I find this new synth tobacco very pleasing.
As far as I can discern, FFV RY4 and Gambler are totally distinct from each other and don't share similar flavor profiles. Since retail juicemakers often use many flavorings to concoct a given juice (ten or more separate flavorings for a single juice are not uncommon), these two RY4s may share certain flavoring elements, but the end result tastes quite different. I can tell after one evening with Gambler that it will be my new favorite MOV RY4, hands down.
specs: The 30ml bottle of RY4 I purchased from ITCVapes contains a light amber-colored transparent liquid at 24mg nic strength in a 10/90 PG/VG base. Nose of the liquid is ever-so-slightly buttery in scent, but not oily. Since the juice was made fresh-to-order, I let it steep after arrival for three days. Testing was done using a 3.0 ohm Ultimate CE2 clearomizer powered by a VAMO v2 set to 9.0 watts RMS.
Heres the description from the product page of the ITCVapes site:
As the vendor description states, this RY4 is amply creamy, smooth, and quite buttery, all of which my particular palate associates with the caramel. It's ice cream topping liquid caramel rather than hard candy caramel to my taste buds. There may be other flavoring elements that provide those qualities, but my brain interprets them through the caramel, which is delicious, by the way. Overall, the juice is extremely rich in flavor---meaning luxurious much more than sweet. There is sweetness, of course---RY4's basic flavor profile requires some---but its kept within bounds. I think that was a wise choice here, as too much sweetness would put this juice over the top. As it is, the slightly more savory tone of some sweetness but creamy richness is just about perfect. Did I mention that it's creamy and buttery? LOL.
ITCVapes RY4 rises or falls on the basis of two qualities: the tobacco and the buttery caramel. If you like the particular taste and interaction of those two flavor elements, youll like this Custom RY4. Personally, I find the tobacco slightly idiosyncratic, and my first reaction was to wonder if it might be an acquired taste, but the tobacco flavor complements the creamy, buttery caramel so well that I was soon won over. ITCVapes RY4 is definitely its own creature, rather than being a middle-of-the-road RY4, but that serves to give it a unique identity.
ITCVapes RY4 grade: B+
link to purchase: RY4 from ITCVapes
This marks my third review in a row of very good RY4s---Butterflys RY4, MOV Gambler, and now ITCVapes RY4. All three are fine examples of the art of RY4, and vapers can be happy to add these to the many other superb retail RY4s available in the marketplace. Folks, these are good times to be a vaper, and especially good times for RY4 vapers.
Heres the description from the product page of the ITCVapes site:
A rich, sweet, creamy, buttery smooth tobacco with nutty undertones that just might magically disappear before you expect it. Handcrafted in and shipped from MD, USA in glass dropper bottles.
Also, from the About Our E-Liquid page:
ITCVapes juices are the result of a combined effort of two mixers and over 3 years of e-liquid research and development. We have put together a line of deliciously complex juices, many of which offer a multi-flavor experience as you vape. Our flavors could be considered gourmet as none of them are a single flavor added to nicotine. Each and every one of them has been carefully proportioned to create the perfect blend of flavor.
All of our e-liquid is mixed by ITCVapes staff in Maryland, USA. Our recipes are a combined effort of ITCVapes owner Luke Gates as well as our true flavor wizard, Jakob Tomlin from Kansas City. Jakob created our famous RY4 as well as many other excellent recipes you will find on our site.
All of our e-Liquid is made of the highest quality ingredients. ITCVapes uses pharmaceutical grade kosher USP PG & VG. All flavors used are top quality and 100% diacetyl free.
Caramel is the star of ITCVapes RY4, which places it firmly in the Custom genre of RY4s. The nutty tobacco is also distinct, another feature of Custom RY4s, with the vanilla remaining in the background. I cant actually discern the vanilla component, but that might be just me rather than the juice itself. Vanilla is obviously present, however, because this is definitely an RY4 flavor profile. The nuttiness isnt potent or aggressive---the juice doesn't scream NUTS---but the nut element does come through, so RY4 fans who dont like nutty RY4s might steer clear of this one. Personally, I like RY4s both without and with nuttiness, so for me its fine, as I imagine it will be for most vapers.All of our e-liquid is mixed by ITCVapes staff in Maryland, USA. Our recipes are a combined effort of ITCVapes owner Luke Gates as well as our true flavor wizard, Jakob Tomlin from Kansas City. Jakob created our famous RY4 as well as many other excellent recipes you will find on our site.
All of our e-Liquid is made of the highest quality ingredients. ITCVapes uses pharmaceutical grade kosher USP PG & VG. All flavors used are top quality and 100% diacetyl free.
As the vendor description states, this RY4 is amply creamy, smooth, and quite buttery, all of which my particular palate associates with the caramel. It's ice cream topping liquid caramel rather than hard candy caramel to my taste buds. There may be other flavoring elements that provide those qualities, but my brain interprets them through the caramel, which is delicious, by the way. Overall, the juice is extremely rich in flavor---meaning luxurious much more than sweet. There is sweetness, of course---RY4's basic flavor profile requires some---but its kept within bounds. I think that was a wise choice here, as too much sweetness would put this juice over the top. As it is, the slightly more savory tone of some sweetness but creamy richness is just about perfect. Did I mention that it's creamy and buttery? LOL.
ITCVapes RY4 rises or falls on the basis of two qualities: the tobacco and the buttery caramel. If you like the particular taste and interaction of those two flavor elements, youll like this Custom RY4. Personally, I find the tobacco slightly idiosyncratic, and my first reaction was to wonder if it might be an acquired taste, but the tobacco flavor complements the creamy, buttery caramel so well that I was soon won over. ITCVapes RY4 is definitely its own creature, rather than being a middle-of-the-road RY4, but that serves to give it a unique identity.
ITCVapes RY4 grade: B+
link to purchase: RY4 from ITCVapes
This marks my third review in a row of very good RY4s---Butterflys RY4, MOV Gambler, and now ITCVapes RY4. All three are fine examples of the art of RY4, and vapers can be happy to add these to the many other superb retail RY4s available in the marketplace. Folks, these are good times to be a vaper, and especially good times for RY4 vapers.
I woke up and read Bill's review of MOV's Gambler. I remember my review (http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ly-big-ry4-roundup-long-495.html#post11418199 post #4942) stated Gambler was very much a dessert flavored RY4. Hardware aside, I wondered why if the extra week of steeping was guity for the two review's disparity.
So I revisited Gambler this morning, before any other vape flavors. Hazelnut jumped out at me. I still taste the rich caramel and bright vanilla blends, but now I get a good flavor of hazelnut throughout. The cigarette-like tobacco is a bit more influential, but behind the other flavors.
I find Gambler to be deep in the dessert corner of RY4 land, but now more cookie than cheesecake. This suggests a full week of steeping has calmed Gambler into a much better all day blend. I agree with Bill that Gambler is a very good RY4 and deserves an A- grade.
So I revisited Gambler this morning, before any other vape flavors. Hazelnut jumped out at me. I still taste the rich caramel and bright vanilla blends, but now I get a good flavor of hazelnut throughout. The cigarette-like tobacco is a bit more influential, but behind the other flavors.
I find Gambler to be deep in the dessert corner of RY4 land, but now more cookie than cheesecake. This suggests a full week of steeping has calmed Gambler into a much better all day blend. I agree with Bill that Gambler is a very good RY4 and deserves an A- grade.
I appreciate the review AND the timing on Gambler. Mine is sitting with Southern Gentleman, steeping. Now I am even more anxious to try AND like this blend.
With NO confidence YET in my ability to taste the nuances that you tasters/testers find in these custom brews, my intent here is to find WHO I most closely align with so that I build my stash premium juices to my liking.
Example being... as well as I like CountRY4, FVFRY4 is much more pleasing to my palate. Another duel for my prefrence is between MOV's Caramela and Halo's Voodoo. I like them both very much. I may continue both and NOT SELECT one over the other but can I tell anyone WHY?, not at this point.
Another review and grading and discussion was for Vita Bella. Seemed to fall in my wheelhouse of tryables, it is on it's way.
Many of you are the Lewis and Clark of ejuice blends and I for one am glad the trail is being blazed with competency.
I'd wager a guess that Steve at MOV pre-steeped my bottle of Gambler before shipping it out to me. One thing I can say with near-certainty: Whenever two vapers (especially the two of us) get different results from the same juice (in different bottles made/shipped at different times and vaped from half a continent away---but you know what I mean, technically it's the same juice...), it's almost never the case that one of us is right and the other wrong. It's almost always that we're both right.
I just vaped some Gambler after reading your post, and you're right, of course, the nutty component is definitely hazelnut. There may be other nuts in the mix as well, but hazelnut for sure. Good call, but then your own DIY RY4 from way back was hazelnut, so you should know. LOL.
I'm thinking that, over time, Gambler will probably strengthen in the tobacco department and perhaps diminish some in sweetness as the other flavors step forward.
Funny you should mention that. My maternal grandmother's maiden name was Lewis, and I've always been told that Meriwether Lewis was a distant relation of mine. Go figure.
I recall thinking in 2005 when I moved to the Pacific Northwest from Minnesota that I made the drive in four days, in total comfort, while it took Lewis and Clark more than a year. Of course, the country they traversed was 1804-1805 was pretty much pristine, whereas the America I drove through in 2005 was pockmarked by the detritus of two centuries of industrial civilization. Sure, Montana was still Big Sky country, but the grinding poverty of falling-down shacks along the interstate on Native American Reservations was shocking. And the small towns along the way were filled with signs: Grocery and Casino, Drugstore and Casino, Laundromat and Casino. When did this country succumb to the virus of gambling? Also, you can drive from one end of the continental U.S. to the other and never eat anywhere but cheap Chinese buffets. What's up with that? Is there some Chinese Mafia that runs all those restaurants? And since all those buffets seem to have pretty much the same food and even the same paper placemats, do they all get their supplies from one humongous warehouse in Hackensack, New Jersey?
Whenever someone posts random thoughts like that, I wonder if they had spent some quality time on the John that morning. That's where I get much of my quality thinking done anyways.
Anyone? Just me? Hello? Where did everyone go?
Whenever someone posts random thoughts like that, I wonder if they had spent some quality time on the John that morning. That's where I get much of my quality thinking done anyways.
Anyone? Just me? Hello? Where did everyone go?
Now that I'm an old fart---and an old, damaged fart to boot---I make sure that I'm never very busy. Luckily, I can pay the monthly nut with about twelve hours of work per week from the comfort of my living room couch, so I have lots of time to make extract, fiddle with coils, roast coffee on the back porch, enjoy the scenery (I live in a setting that's drop-dead gorgeous), and contemplate my navel. In truth, though, while I was busier when younger, I never had the kind of OMG busy-as-hell life that many people have. I knew from the get-go that my temperament wasn't built to handle that, so my life unfolded differently than that hustle-bustle go-go-go style. Oh, I'm still a Type-A, but that was always mostly mental and emotional for me, not so much kinetic and physical.
I'm not yet an old fart, but I'm of the same temperament. I have a huge amount of free time at this point of my life, and I really like it. I spent my late teenage years and 20s working full-time, often much more than that. I was also a very sick, struggling alcoholic (back then work would keep my drinking in check, though that stopped being the case).
The end of my 20s and during my 30s (currently 33), my desire to stop killing myself with booze was strong, but the execution to stay stopped kept failing. I realized a couple years ago that as an alcoholic in early recovery, I'm just terrible at dealing with stress. Working myself silly wasn't working, so I made the decision to work only enough to take care of the bills, and not get into a relationship with the fairer sex for at least a year, two things that previously proved to result in feelings of being over-stressed to the point of seeking relief from a bottle.
Well, over 18 months later of doing just that, living a clean life and happier than I previously thought possible, I'm still only working weekends to pay the bills and that's it. I would have considered myself a bum and lazy before, but I'm neither of those things. I don't have a family to provide for, just myself, and what I'm doing now works for me at this point in my life.
Would I like to work more? Honestly, not really lol. I like my free time, I like my hobbies, I like enjoying my existence. I do however, want more financial security, so I will eventually take a path that will lead to a comfortable retirement. I've just made a vow to myself to no longer work full-time at a job I hate, unless of course circumstances require that.
In a perfect world we could do whatever we love and be compensated for that. Since that's not the case, we compromise, but I'm not willing to compromise that much with that anymore.
This is great to hear! They are opening up a B&M soon and this will be the closest B&M to my house. Vapor's Knoll is the next closest, and you have both their RY4s ranked very prominently. Good times.
I will be giving Gambler a try...the "Dessert" category was a downside initially...BUT I trust Bill so I will order it during the Christmas holidays. I am sure my husband is going to shoot me if I order another juice.
I am excited about ITC Vapes as well, being a transplant from the tri-state area, I have already decided that instead of visiting the monuments AGAIN...I am going to ITC Vape's new B &M shop and Vapor Knoll's store in Pasadena when I am there this summer. Again, Bill is spot on with his review. I seem to like his A and B categories very well. Saves money and time - my husband should love him!
I am excited about ITC Vapes as well, being a transplant from the tri-state area, I have already decided that instead of visiting the monuments AGAIN...I am going to ITC Vape's new B &M shop and Vapor Knoll's store in Pasadena when I am there this summer. Again, Bill is spot on with his review. I seem to like his A and B categories very well. Saves money and time - my husband should love him!
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I am getting even more anxious to vape some Gambler. it just has to sit another series of hours.
billherbst said:
Significant personal history, for those who have some, is remarkable. My father told me once we have some American Indian blood in our lineage. When the time came that I cared anything about it I had noone left to ask more about it. So there it is.
I'm not going to agree here 'cause us 'type A old farts' don't need that to pause and reminisce, so there is even hope for you jerms by getting older.
On another plain, I, like a few others here are
I find us not talking RY4s, just like I WAS talking RY4s over at Natural Tobacco thread when discussing GeJ sauces. ie. new sneaker rubber Which btw is no longer applicable. must have been the new atty.
*Apologies where necessary... GJ4 is BOTH an RY4 and N-E-T based, can be discussed in two places, as indicated. Pardon my old-dog brainfart.
I will try to hold my tongue until I learn more, difficult as it may be
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As I've posted on the thread in the past, I'm not an all-day-vape kind of guy. Not even close. I'm a juice bumblebee, flitting from one juice to another every two minutes. I vape probably 20 different juices every day. If I vape a single juice for more than five minutes at a stretch, it's a big deal. In addition, I don't vape RY4s for pleasure anymore. My "job" as the primary RY4 reviewer on this thread killed that for me long ago.
Given both of those facts, the surprise is that I've been vaping MOV Gambler nearly all day. Yes, I've vaped other juices, too---no big whoop there---but I keep coming back to Gambler. I've vaped it for maybe four hours today. I've also vaped some of both ITCVapes' and Butterfly's RY4s, although not nearly as much as Gambler. Wow. That's three RY4s vaped for pleasure in a single day. Amazing.
Falling in love with a new juice is never trustworthy for me, so take what I'm about to write with a grain of salt, but Gambler is an incredible juice. Even as a custom RY4, it's distinctly atypical and idiosyncratic---probably because of the hazelnut---so I'll leave it graded as A- rather than raising it to an A. (For me, the A group is reserved for RY4s that display the essence of what a great RY4 should be, and Gambler deviates from that in its own eccentric way.) Nonetheless, Gambler is a scrumptious eliquid. So delicious, and more than a little seductive. Although it doesn't taste anything like BWB RY4, both of those juices share that seductive quality of sneaking up on me. At first vape, my brain's reaction is "Well, this is sort of OK, but odd, and I'm not totally sure that I like it." The second draw is better, and the third better still. "Sort of OK" morphs into "Yum." By the tenth toke, my brain is inebriated with pleasure. The juice is still a little odd, but I no longer care.
Best of all, Gambler isn't just for RY4 lovers. The synthetic tobacco base is so tasty that tobacco vapers will dig it as a terrific hybrid blend---a nutty tobacco combined with sweeter bakery flavorings, but not cloyingly or artificially sweet.
I'll bet that MOV's going to sell a lot of this.
Given both of those facts, the surprise is that I've been vaping MOV Gambler nearly all day. Yes, I've vaped other juices, too---no big whoop there---but I keep coming back to Gambler. I've vaped it for maybe four hours today. I've also vaped some of both ITCVapes' and Butterfly's RY4s, although not nearly as much as Gambler. Wow. That's three RY4s vaped for pleasure in a single day. Amazing.
Falling in love with a new juice is never trustworthy for me, so take what I'm about to write with a grain of salt, but Gambler is an incredible juice. Even as a custom RY4, it's distinctly atypical and idiosyncratic---probably because of the hazelnut---so I'll leave it graded as A- rather than raising it to an A. (For me, the A group is reserved for RY4s that display the essence of what a great RY4 should be, and Gambler deviates from that in its own eccentric way.) Nonetheless, Gambler is a scrumptious eliquid. So delicious, and more than a little seductive. Although it doesn't taste anything like BWB RY4, both of those juices share that seductive quality of sneaking up on me. At first vape, my brain's reaction is "Well, this is sort of OK, but odd, and I'm not totally sure that I like it." The second draw is better, and the third better still. "Sort of OK" morphs into "Yum." By the tenth toke, my brain is inebriated with pleasure. The juice is still a little odd, but I no longer care.
Best of all, Gambler isn't just for RY4 lovers. The synthetic tobacco base is so tasty that tobacco vapers will dig it as a terrific hybrid blend---a nutty tobacco combined with sweeter bakery flavorings, but not cloyingly or artificially sweet.
I'll bet that MOV's going to sell a lot of this.
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