The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)

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billherbst

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Yes. dear, I know! :) I am just glad I have tried one more and I can talk about it... Hope you don't mind :)

Fani,

No, no---I don't mind at all. I meant my post to you only as a heads-up, in case you'd missed the review. I love it when people take the initiative to post. The more of us the merrier.
 

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Just caught up on the thread after a long while. After vaping a bunch of RY4s (though not close to Herbst territory) I've settled my top 3 on IKV Gold for a medium robust, Tribeca for a softer profile and Volt (Bloog) for an all-day everyday. I vape IKV on 5v with 3.5 and the other two at 4.2 with LR. Every juice I own get's tested and allocated to one of those because I've found that some juices blossom at 5v and others the flavor just washes out.

I let all my bacco juices steep for 2 to 3 weeks before I even try them, but yes I put Halos away for a long while. I have a 2 month bottle of Tribecca that's still wrapped and I won't be opening it for a couple more. I also find BWB juices benefit from long steeps.

As this thread indicates there are many, many good RY4s out there to please any palate. I'm just glad I don't have to review them all because Bill's already done that. I'm actually now trying to reduce me juice arsenal to ones that I know I love to vape. My very first month vaping I ordered over 100 juices to try, now I'm rotating through less than 20 for daily usage. After a while, I guess less is more ;-)
 

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I let all my bacco juices steep for 2 to 3 weeks before I even try them, but yes I put Halos away for a long while. I have a 2 month bottle of Tribecca that's still wrapped and I won't be opening it for a couple more. I also find BWB juices benefit from long steeps.

+1.

In my personal experience, steeping improves the flavor and depth of tobacco juices.

And for me, vaping fresh Tribeca is the equivalent of drinking Claret when it's new. Tribeca that's steeped for eight months, however, is heavenly, like fine wine aged for years. (I'm not a wine connoisseur---heck, I don't even drink wine---but you know what I mean...)
 

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I know you make your own ry4 too bill, isn't it about time some company picks you up and slaps yer name on a bottle? Has anyone approached u yet? Bry4r? U should get paid 4this! Or sell it yerself at least it would have a good description lol

ogredog,

After 19 months of vaping and more than a year of diy, I still can't make a decent RY4 from scratch. Well, at least not one that I'd feel good about selling. LOL.
 

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So this week I am thinking I will give zombie-juice.com- Zombie RY4 a try, looks like they have 3 versions..... Zombie RY4, 2X Zombie RY4, and Very Berry RY4 (Very Berry RY4 Tab)....so it seems they have like 10 different flavors of TAB not sure if they mean Dekang Tab so I sent them a email to make sure this was not just Dekang RY4, also that Very Berry RY4 description sounds like Berry, RY4 and Tab mixed not sure about that one sounds like something that would taste like the guts of a zombie.

So here was the reply "No we do not carry any Dekang juice at all. All the flavors that is on the site has been hand designed and each order is made to order. :)"





here is my top RY4s and this could change at any minute.....

AVE Raf-A-Licious (laid to rest but still will be my #1)
KickBass RY4
Vapor..... OuR-Y4
 
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Three different juices; three different sours.

Janty hits me with simultaneous sweet and sour that lasts right through the exhale, plus the sour is sharp and pointed.
OuR-Y4 starts out sour on inhale, then gradually morphs from sour into sweet, plus the sour is soft and round.
Raf-a-licious is definitely the least sour of the three, more a hint or tease than a bang, plus it's also the least sweet.

If you really like sweet & sour, Janty's your RY4.
If you appreciate an RY4 that's subtly sour, go with Raf.
If you want an RY4 that changes flavors right inside you, you'll love OuR-Y4.

That little comparison test makes me want to change OuR-Y4's grade from B+ to A-.

Your description and comparison of Our-Y4's sourness is perfect. I got mine yesterday and it is very nice. It does in fact change from sour to sweet inside you. I wish they were on ecf so more people could learn about their juice and try it, but I read somewhere that they tried to get on ecf but couldn't because of their name. I don't know for sure about all of that but I do know they make good juice. Their #13 and Dark & Mellow are great tobacco vapes too.
 

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Still behind about 80 posts, but just wanted to "chime" in...

Hey girlfriend, you vape on any hardware you want, and don't let nobody dis ya for it!!! Heck, I'll personally slap 'em up side da head if they do.


Bill you got all ghetto on us. How cute!

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Those latter qualities vary widely from one RY4 to another. No, I mean bright: sparkling, almost effervescent, like the higher octaves in music. Classic RY4s make your taste buds sit up and take notice.

By contrast, custom RY4s are usually deeper and lean toward the middle and lower end of the musical flavor scales. Not necessarily blow-your-socks-off bass-heavy, but calmer and somewhat more restrained than their classic RY4 counterparts. Custom RY4s don’t grab your taste buds; they embrace and massage them. With some custom RY4s, the taste impact is like Swedish Deep Muscle massage. In others, impact has the light, feathery touch of Lymph Massage. Either way, the effect is relaxing.

But you don’t make an orchestra with just violas and bassoons. You need the violins for balance. And piccolos too. I

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I don't want to blow such a lovely gift by chowing it all down in one feverish bite like some starving dog. Stretch it out a bit, you know? I'll PM you with my thoughts about the WTA after I try it. That should be interesting.

Only you, Bill, can take an RY4 and turn it into a massage table, and orchestra, a wild animal and a needed meal.

This is only one reason we all adore you!
 

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Kat,

You made me blush, like an antebellum Southern Belle such as Scarlett O'Hara, who pretends to be shy but is actually a brazen hussy. Uh-oh, there I go again, using another simile.

I truly don't understand how anyone successfully describes just about anything without similes and metaphors. I love to string 'em together like making a necklace out of multi-colored pop beads (remember those?). Oops, another simile. LOL.
 

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Scarlett, wearer of pop beads... I nearly knocked over my (insert favorite name here) RY4 on that one!

I had forgotten just how much I love this thread!

On the Tribeca sentiments... I had a teeny sample bottle stashed away, and hidden. I so dislike when I hide things and then can't find them. To me, as a fairly new vaper a year ago, it was very good. After reading the thread tonite, somehow I magically found that sample bottle and dripped several precious drops. Sadly, in my rush to parallel my vape-and-read, I didn't retrieve a clean atty. Fortunately, the deliciousness that is Tribeca shone thru, and it IS more lovely than I remember.

I thank you (all). My credit card... not so much. ;)
 

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I did and I am letting it steep it seemed to have a strong alcohol taste to it not rubbing so it was not bad.also the background had the signature Madvaps yuk taste to it...:2c:



See what she meant? Even more gems popped out of your mouth!!!!
Bill, did you try the Mad4 yet?
 

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Bill, did you try the Mad4 yet?

Got my 5ml bottle of Mad4 yesterday. Gave it a very brief drip-test last night. First impression: surprisingly, not half bad. I'd almost go so far as to say that I liked it. I didn't taste any alcohol and only a bit of the characteristic Top Vapor undertone, with no off-flavors.

I'll give it three days of open-bottle steeping, then load it into a carto for a longer test. Looks like you might have found a needle in a haystack.
 

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...looking forward to seeing where Vermillion River's KY4 lands in the list.

Cool_Breeze,

Sorry, my friend. The rankings are long gone. I stopped doing a single comrehensive ranking of the Big List back at the end of February. Now I give grades (A to F) to each new RY4 I review. I'm also gradually revisiting all the RY4s on the Big List in groups of 20 and updating my initial reviews with grades based on how I like them (or not) now.

As a consolation prize to those who actually enjoyed my ranking all the RY4s (an exercise in hubris, if there ever was one), I still include my Personal Top Ten RY4s in a mini-ranking with each posted revision of the Big List.

I can tell you already, though, that KY4 doesn't make the cut for my current top ten. Not that it's bad (in my opinion)---it just struck me as another of the seemingly endless spinoffs of Kentucky Premium. I would have preferred Vermillion River to have used Classic Blend rather than Premium as the tobacco base for KY4, since Premium Blend flirts around RY4 territory all by itself.
 

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The 5ml bottle of RY4 I purchased from MrVape.com for this review contains a golden-colored eliquid that was custom made-to-order using a fairly thick 50/50 PG/VG blend at 24mg nic strength. Testing was done by loading the juice into an XXL BogeSR 2.9 ohm carto driven by a LavaTube Version 1.5 VV set to 5.3 volts for a power output of 9.7 watts. The new V1.5 LavaTubes use a pulsed regulator that doesn’t allow measuring loaded voltage, but with the 3.2 amp upper limit, I assume that the loaded voltage was close to the unloaded setting on the display. The vaping experience with this setup certainly felt like 9+ watts, so I presume that the drop-off between unloaded and loaded voltage was minimal.

Becoming an online retail juice vendor must be a lucrative enterprise these days. Either that, or people are scrambling to become vendors because no other decent jobs exist in this country anymore. Or maybe both. Whatever the reason, new vendors are springing up like mushrooms in the forest after a spring rain. MrVape is another entry in what is rapidly becoming a crowded marketplace, partially because of the “Mom and Pop” nature of businesses in this young industry (big, corporate players haven't come in squashed all the little guys---yet). With a 25% off coupon (still in effect as of today with the code “stockup”) and cheap $1.95 shipping (which was fast, by the way), I grabbed a sampler pack of five 5ml bottles of juice for less than nine bucks. I certainly can’t complain about getting a new RY4 to review and four other 5ml juices for only $1.74 each.

As with all custom made-to-order juices, I intended to give MrVape RY4 some steeping time, but impatience got me in a half-nelson, so I cried “uncle” and loaded up a carto. What the heck, the worst that could happen was that juice would taste lousy, right?

I publicly acknowledge that I violated MrVape’s express instructions by vaping this juice only two days after its arrival. The on-site description states: “We do recommend letting this flavor steep for 3-5 days after receiving it. After it steeps for this time period the vanilla and caramel come together very nicely and pack a powerful punch of flavor.”

All right, so sue me.

My ignoring the advisory was emboldened by the other sentence in the on-site description: “This flavor has the perfect blend of vanilla and caramel with a perfect back note of tobacco.” Ad copy such as that always strikes me as over-the-top. Not only is the juice “perfect,” but it’s perfect twice in the same sentence! Well, perfect or not, I have to grudgingly admit that this RY4 is pretty darn good, even without much steeping.

As with most made-to-order American juices, I expected a custom RY4 profile, and that’s partially true, but not overwhelmingly so. Rather than shredding the envelope and rocketing off into wild flights of flavor fantasy, this RY4 aims to improve upon a tried-and-true approach. It dances back and forth across the boundary that separates classic and custom RY4s.

That integration of opposites is a hallmark of this juice in numerous ways. The holy trinity of tobacco, caramel, and vanilla (no nuts in this one) are nicely balanced, yet distinct as individual elements. Perhaps that will change with the requisite steeping as the flavorings meld together, but I’m far from unhappy with the results now. The simplicity of this recipe is very pleasing to me. RY4s can be bold or subtle, but too many flavors turns RY4s into Mud. Simpler is better, in my opinion, since less is more for RY4 (ooh, I'm a poet and didn't even know it, LOL).

Although I taste both the caramel and vanilla, MrVape RY4 is definitely not a sweet dessert vape. If anything, I’d put it in the stronger tobacco category. The tobacco isn’t toasted, but it’s definitely smokey, with a very slight ashiness. If you follow my RY4 reviews, you may already know that I like that. Not everyone does, but I do.

I’ve vaped a bunch of good RY4s recently, and this RY4 will be invited to join to that club. At these prices, I’d recommend MrVape RY4 to most everyone. Grade: B+, and if steeping does produce the “powerful punch” of blended flavor that MrVape asserts, that grade may go up. (For the record, I just vaped this juice dripped into an LR306 atty at 4.0 volts, and it was even better.)

Since the RY4 is so good, I quickly sampled the other four flavors I picked for my MrVape sampler pack---Special Blend Tobacco, Roast Coffee, Vanilla Coffee, and Juicy Fruit. All five juices made my taste buds happy. Looks like we may have another retail vendor with low prices and high-quality juices. (What a concept! Low prices and high quality. Go figure.) So, by all means, give MrVape’s juices a try and see what you think.

Link: MrVape RY4
 
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