The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)

[lettucehead]

I just got a bunch of juices of the plume room and I'm really impressed with the style.
Beautiful presentation in blue glass bottles with little 'Plume Room' tags around the necks.

I did get the Honey-Fig tobacco with them.
Now mind you, it hasn't had a chance to steep at all, but your post just made me get it out along with an atomizer.

It is definitely a high VG juice - it is fairly thick. I don't know how easily this would wick.
I generally use the bottom coil Phoenix, and I'll try that later.
Right now, I'm using a 510 atomizer.


First impressions -

Sweet honey and earthy tobacco on the inhale.
More of the fruit and continuing deeper notes of tobacco on the exhale.
Very mellow and nicely rounded.
This does not smack you around the head and say 'Hey, you are vaping tobacco!' but it is definitely there in the depth of the flavor.

Personally, I don't like heavy spice tobacco. I like tobacco that gives body to a flavor. This is the latter.

Very very nice...

Oh, I meant to ask: Who if anyone has tried The Plume Room's house extracted tobacco liquids? The thought of a Honey-Fig tobacco is making my mouth water

 

[scarf-ace]

Well, that sounds right up my alley. Thanks Lettucehead!

I just got a bunch of juices of the plume room and I'm really impressed with the style.
Beautiful presentation in blue glass bottles with little 'Plume Room' tags around the necks.

I did get the Honey-Fig Tobacco with them.
Now mind you, it hasn't had a chance to steep at all, but your post just made me get it out along with an atomizer.

It is definitely a high VG juice - it is fairly thick. I don't know how easily this would wick.
I generally use the bottom coil Phoenix, and I'll try that later.
Right now, I'm using a 510 atomizer.


First impressions -

Sweet honey and earthy tobacco on the inhale.
More of the fruit and continuing deeper notes of tobacco on the exhale.
Very mellow and nicely rounded.
This does not smack you around the head and say 'Hey, you are vaping tobacco!' but it is definitely there in the depth of the flavor.

Personally, I don't like heavy spice tobacco. I like tobacco that gives body to a flavor. This is the latter.

Very very nice...

 

[billherbst]

I did get the Honey-Fig Tobacco with them. Now mind you, it hasn't had a chance to steep at all...

First impressions -
Sweet honey and earthy tobacco on the inhale. More of the fruit and continuing deeper notes of tobacco on the exhale. Very mellow and nicely rounded. This does not smack you around the head and say 'Hey, you are vaping tobacco!' but it is definitely there in the depth of the flavor. Personally, I don't like heavy spice tobacco. I like tobacco that gives body to a flavor. This is the latter. Very very nice...

lettucehead,

Your description of Fig-Honey Tobacco sounded so good that I figured I might try my hand at making a diy juice using those ingredients. I went into my database and found a 3ml sample bottle of Fig juice from FSUSA that was mediocre on its own and had been languishing in my juice dungeon since late 2010, presumably to die a quiet death. So, I retrieved that comatose sample bottle from its tomb. Then I mixed up 12mls of 70/30 tobacco base, using 3% of the super-concentrated MLB flavoring from ecigexpress (also called Real Cig flavoring in the VapingZone version of the Chinese super-concentrates), added the 3mls of fig juice and 2 mls of diy Honey nicquid (made with FlavourArt honey flavor). Shake, shake, shake.

In all honesty, I didn't expect much, especially because diy juice needs a good week of steeping to let the flavors develop and meld. But, being the fearless (or is that feckless?) mad scientist that I am, I loaded 1.6mls into a CE2 Ultimate Clearomizer and gave it a try.

Well, dog my cats, it's really good! The MLB super-concentrate is a terrific synthetic, with a robust basic flavor and a crisp bite that's right down the middle of tobacco alley, to which the fig and honey (which were already well-steeped juices) added subtle tones of lovely dark fruit flavor and sweetness. I even managed to get the proportions right, so that the tobacco holds center-stage and is supported rather than overwhelmed by the sweeter ingredients.

Please understand, I would not presume to compare my diy effort to The Plume Room's natural-extract Honey-Fig Tobacco. Not having vaped that retail juice, I have no idea if my off-the-cuff concoction is even remotely similar. Probably not. But thanks for the inspiration! This is a great combination of ingredients.

 

[scarf-ace]

Thanks a lot Bill, now I'm shopping for fig and honey flavourings. LOL

 

[passerbyeus]

I have a question????? why do we use the term earthy and sugarcoat this why dont we just say what it taste like ....PEPPER or DIRT...... hahahaha...I mean I would rather hear of a RY4 that taste vanilla, caramel, with a a dirty undertone then a earthy undertone.....

 

[KDude]

Joyetech RY4 16mg

Suprisingly, not bad. Not bad at all. I'm going to get more of this. Not as cheap as Dekang, but still reasonably priced. I guess it's somewhat similar to Janty.. seems to have some that sourness, but I ran out of Janty and can't do a direct comparison now. It doesn't have that "chalky" quality I was getting from other Chinese ry4s (Dekang and Altsmoke). It still has a lot of same traits though, so I'd say it's a standard Chinese type of RY4. Just a good one. Although various reviews I came across said different.. that it was unique. Maybe I'm the one who doesn't know better.

edit: This is the 100 PG version, but I might mix it up a bit next time. They seem to only sell 100 pg or 100 vg.

 

[billherbst]

My original review of Vapesales RY4 used a bottle of 36mg juice won by ECF member Cool_Breeze in a contest, which he then mailed to me for review. What I wrote and posted here (post #2065) wasn’t much of a review, however, because the 36ml nic content was so potent that I nearly passed out.

Vapesales saw the “review” and sent me a brand new bottle of their RY4(squared) at 18mg nic strength. They were extremely polite, even going so far as to apologize for the mix-up with the 36mg juice. What they might have written me could easily have said: "Bill, why did you post that stupid "review" rather than just contacting us?" No, most vendors are very nice even when they don't have to be. So thanks, Vapesales, not only for your generosity in sending me another bottle, but for your graciousness in not lambasting me. The real reason I posted the first review was because it seemed like a good story to share for the entertainment value.

specs: I tested this juice with the same equipment as before, a 2.0 ohm Boge carto powered by an Ovale V8 set to 3.4 volts. Because of the V8’s PWM, voltage settings might be inaccurate; a setting of 3.4 volts vapes like 4+, so I’d guess the power to be around 8-8.5 watts.

This is not the same juice I vaped before. That was labeled as “Gold Label RY4,” while this bottle reads “Gold Label RY4(squared).” The label uses a small superscript “2” rather than the word “squared,” but the web site page reads “RY4SQUARED.” OK, so much for consistency. Whatever.

The juice is obviously different because the nic content is halved---18mg rather than 36mg. I actually believe that the first juice might have been considerably higher than 36mg, since it put me right on my .... and made me dizzy. This juice feels like 18mg.

Beyond nic strength, however, RY4(squared) also has a different flavor profile. The 36mg RY4 was marked by a strong and central tobacco presence, with caramel and vanilla relegated to supporting roles. This juice---which is also a custom RY4---is a dessert vape all the way, with very strong caramel and vanilla that push the tobacco right into the background. I’d almost they say tromp on the tobacco, but that might be putting it too strongly. I mean, this isn’t just a caramel-vanilla juice. It is, after all, a bonafide RY4, with tobacco as a clear ingredient. I figure that the name RY4(squared) tells us that the caramel and vanilla have been kicked up by using more of those flavorings.

In keeping with dessert RY4 profiles, RY4(squared) is definitely sweet, but not overly rich. Also, the sweet flavor seems to come entirely from the caramel and vanilla, not from added Sucralose or ethyl maltol. In other words, the sweetness feels integral to the ingredients, rather than tacked on. That’s a big plus.

My personal preference would be to combine the flavor profile of the original juice (with a stronger tobacco) with the nic content of this juice. Having admitted that, however, this is a fine choice for those who like the sweeter dessert-style RY4s. In fact, it's pretty darn tasty.

Vapesales RY4(squared): Grade – B

Link to buy: Vapesales RY4(squared)

 

[KDude]

Bill, you should try that Joye Ry4 if you haven't. I think it's up your alley. Litecigusa is selling 10ml for like $6 (and contrary to what I said earlier, it's a PG/VG mix). Although I think I read you suspected it's dekang. It's not.

I'm kind of losing interest in RY4 as an all day thing. For me, I think something like that juice will satisfy the need for that taste every once in awhile. It's neatly "plain". I've tried other Joye juices though.. not as good.

 

[Recycled]

My local vaper's group was given a huge box of free samples brought from Vapestock of FlavourArt's new line of e-liquids. I'm not sure when they will become commercially available. These are not flavorings but actual ready-to-vape juice. All of the flavors I have tried are quite good: Tuscan Reserve, Cuban, Latakia, and...Caramello. I passed on the Watermelon and Arctic Menthol.

The labels are bi-lingual but mostly Italian: "Traditional 18 mg/ml Nicotine. Caramello/Caramel." I suppose 'caramello' is Italian for caramel. But this is not just a caramel juice. It is a tobacco mix that I find very tasty. (YMMV...I think my taste buds are, if not dead, compromised.)

Apologies in advance if this has been discussed previously, otherwise keep an eye out for these.

 

[sandybeach]

Bill, I hereby pronounce you Official ECF RY4 Champion Tester. I decree that all vendors of RY4 send Bill Herbst a bottle of whatever they are concocting as soon as it is released.

 

[samwest]

Ditto ms. beach! I lost my (25mils) bottle of Ikenvape RY4 on a trip to Houston and I'm sick to death about it.

 

[scarf-ace]

Sad news: One of my up-and-coming juices, Mountain Oak Vapors' CountRY4 (and its cousins MOV Gold and SMooth & Mild) is now reserved for at-home use because I have noticed that the odor of the vapor it leaves behind is quite pungent. It actually smells like another, non-tobacco kind of smoke if you get my drift Still tastes lovely and I will keep vaping it, just not in public.

 

[billherbst]

Bill, you should try that Joye Ry4 if you haven't. I think it's up your alley. Litecigusa is selling 10ml for like $6 (and contrary to what I said earlier, it's a PG/VG mix). Although I think I read you suspected it's dekang. It's not.

KDude,

The first time someone mentioned JoyeTech RY4 on the thread many months ago, I did post that it was re-labeled Dekang, because I had read that opinion (presented as fact) in a post on another thread. That mistaken assumption was quickly corrected, however. I understand now that Dekang and JoyeTech liquids are not identical formulations, although they do share a certain characteristic "Chinese heritage" in common.

Thanks for the heads up on Litecigusa. That's the cheapest price for JoyeTech juices that I've seen.

Having spent more than $1,000 just on RY4s over the past year for this thread (not to mention all the other non-RY4 retail juices I've purchased for myself), I almost never buy RY4s at this point. If a given vendor offers a sampler of 3ml bottles that includes other juices I want, I might on rare occasions order a new RY4. Mostly, however, I acquire new RY4s for review in either two ways: readers of this thread generously send me samples of new RY4s they've purchased for themselves, or vendors send me their RY4s free for review.

Please understand---if I were independently wealthy, I'd buy every RY4 out there. I'm not, however. I'm an old guy who's semi-retired and getting by with the help of a little Social Security. If someone mails me a sample of JoyeTech RY4, I'll gladly review it. (I'm not implying that you should do that---"someone" means exactly what it says: someone, anyone.) Those restrictions aren't ideal, of course, given my responsibilities with this thread, but my situation is what it is.

I'm kind of losing interest in RY4 as an all day thing. For me, I think something like that juice will satisfy the need for that taste every once in awhile. It's neatly "plain". I've tried other Joye juices though.. not as good.

During my first eight months of vaping, from Oct 2010 through May 2011, RY4 was a staple for me. I bought and tried many different RY4s---BWB, FSUSA, Dekang, Want2Vape, Vaperite, VaporRenu, Bluemist, etc.---and some were among my daily vapes. After starting The Big RY4 Roundup thread in June of 2011, that pace accelerated for awhile as I acquired and reviewed more RY4s by the score. Last fall, I sort of hit a wall. My taste buds began to tire of RY4. By spring of 2012, I found myself in the paradoxical position of having become ECF's resident "expert authority" on RY4, even though I no longer vaped it for pleasure. Ever. I wasn't even sure I liked RY4 anymore.

That last sentiment changed, thankfully, largely because of the appearance in the marketplace of so many interesting new custom RY4s with more adventurous flavor profiles or greater subtlety. This renewed my interest in RY4's evolution, although to this day I still don't vape RY4s for personal pleasure. I sample them exclusively for this thread when people send me new RY4s to review.

 

[scarf-ace]

I'm kind of losing interest in RY4 as an all day thing. For me, I think something like that juice will satisfy the need for that taste every once in awhile. It's neatly "plain". I've tried other Joye juices though.. not as good.

I do not, have never had, and likely will never have an "all day vape". My palate is just too fickle. My daily vape kit usually contains at least two tobaccos, two desserts, and one fruit-flavour, just so I can rotate throughout the day. I envy those who can pick one or two things and stick to them. It certainly would be a whole lot cheaper

 

[Jim Bob]

IF you wish, be my guest

I am also excited About retrying some ry4 DIY juices again that a certain member here sent me. It was good stuff. Now it has steeped and I have some new attys. I didn't have time b4 to "review" it properly but hopefully I can get to it soon.

I don't know if he would want me to mention who it is....but he is around here.... he sent me ry4+chocolate , ry4 double, and Asian ry4 and some copper creek chocolate chip cookie....
So its ccccc lol

 

[sandybeach]

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[On Target]

Sandybeach, I looked at myvapecreations web site and they have some really good prices. Have you (or anyone else) tried their RY4?

 

[sandybeach]

Target, not me. I'm curious though. I saw it on the Facebook deals and steals page.

 

[scarf-ace]

Target, not me. I'm curious though. I saw it on the Facebook deals and steals page.

Sigh.

This is the reason I can't have one of those banners in my signature saying "I saved $1234 by quitting smoking and vaping" or some such. Too many fabulous, tempting vendors out there.

I see they also have a cheesecake (ooh!) and Gooey Butter Cake (OOH!!). We will have to review all of those.
I can't buy anything now because I'm taking a 5-day weekend in Melbourne. Must save all my money for eating out and shopping.....heh.

Having said that, Sandy, if you are thinking of buying from, give me a heads-up

 

[scarf-ace]

Darn it all, I just got my Mom & Pop order at work. Normally I carry spare cartos for just such an eventuality, but I forgot today. Conspiracy and Pchela's Poison smell absolutely mouthwatering.

IMPATIENT.