The "REOMIZER" Rob's Rebuildable Atomizer

[JC Okie]

I was wondering on average how many new coils can be made with the silica and wires on Robs site? I think they both come in 3 feet... And which gauge should I buy the 28, 30, or 32? Also which sized wicks??

Matt, Here's what I've learned that works for me. I am NOT the expert, but I've been having some really good luck with my coils, so here goes.

I use about two or two and a half inches of wire per coil. I also use about two inches of wicking material for each coil, but I'm using cotton instead of silica. After I wrap the coil, then I end up cutting some of the wicking material off. Since I'm using cotton threads and/or yarns that I buy at Walmart or Michael's, it's super, super cheap and I never worry about waste or trying to conserve it.

If you decide to get a rebuildable and try your hand at wrapping coils (easy peasy), PM me and I'll send you a package of samples of all the cotton/bamboo wicking materials I've accumulated in my search for the "perfect" wick. I'd be very, very happy to do that. (This goes for anyone else who wants to try out some cotton wicking materials and doesn't want to buy a whole skein or ball of cotton crocket thread or knitting yarn.)

The wire I use is 32 AWG Kanthal. Rob has 28 gauge, 30 gauge, and 32 gauge on his site. There's a chart that is very informative about the resistance of the wire and the actual size if it at Resistance Wire (ohms/in). Here's the gist of it. The smaller the number, the "thicker" the wire, and the lower the resistence. So, for instance, an inch of the 28 gauge wire would give you a resistence of about .5 ohms, whereas an inch of the 32 gauge wire will give you about 1.4 ohms. We usually don't talk in inches, we talk in "wraps" around the wicking material, but it really has to do with how much wire you have between the two posts in your atty. I use about 4 - 5 wraps of 32 gauge Kanthal wire around my wicking material and between the pos. and neg. posts, which translates to roughly an inch of wire or so. I usually get a coil that meters in at about 1.5 ohms....perfect for my tastes. If I wanted higher ohms, I'd either go to a smaller wire (like 34 or 36 gauge kanthal....which I've never seen around these parts) and still use the 4 - 5 wraps, OR I'd go to a fatter wire like 28 gauge Kanthal and do more wraps. That's how that works.

I have my "sweet spot" which is a 1.5 ohm coil on either my REO Grand at 3.7 - 4.1 volts, or on my VV Grand. On the VV Grand, I still keep my volts set at around 4.1-4.3 volts. The vape is the same. The big difference is that the VV Grand will hold at that voltage longer than the REO Grand because it's regulated. The REO Grand battery will gradually go down with use until it's time to recharge.

There are some pretty good videos around showing how to wrap coils.

Hope this is not too much information..

 

[Emris]

Mine comes off I like it that way personally If it bothers you put a drop of glue on it that should do the trick

That is what I did with the one I fixed that broke. Just cleaned it off with some alcohol and put a couple small drops of CA glue and pressed it in. Haven't had an issue with it since!

 

[JC Okie]

Just got my new reomizer. I think now I get what all the fuss was about The taste is great, awesome vapor.

One problem, I think I should have ordered some low nic juice. I so see myself vaping into a coma tonight.

Still don't understand something though -- the wick is just a straight little bit of silica, about 2mm above the juice hole. How in the world is it getting juice on it? Is it magic? Cause it works, I just don't understand how.

Also, thank you again, Rob! The thing is awesome!

Yes. It is magic.

 

[Vegastar]

Gotta stalk the mailman gotta stalk the mailman. Gotta upgrade this A7 to a reomizer is it Thursday yet? Thursday is too far away.

 

[redeyedancer]

I will be adding some 34 gauge wire to the site this week . I haven't tried it yet but I figured many of us will give it a shot . I use 28 and 30 gauge on my 3.7 volt mods and 32 gauge on my vv mods

 

[redeyedancer]

Just got my new reomizer. I think now I get what all the fuss was about The taste is great, awesome vapor.

One problem, I think I should have ordered some low nic juice. I so see myself vaping into a coma tonight.

Still don't understand something though -- the wick is just a straight little bit of silica, about 2mm above the juice hole. How in the world is it getting juice on it? Is it magic? Cause it works, I just don't understand how.

Also, thank you again, Rob! The thing is awesome!

I am glad your enjoying it

 

[JC Okie]

Gotta stalk the mailman gotta stalk the mailman. Gotta upgrade this A7 to a reomizer is it Thursday yet? Thursday is too far away.

At least when it's there, it's there with the Reomizer. You won't have to sign for it or make a trip to the P.O.

 

[Mudflap]

I will be adding some 34 gauge wire to the site this week . I haven't tried it yet but I figured many of us will give it a shot . I use 28 and 30 gauge on my 3.7 volt mods and 32 gauge on my vv mods

You didn't let me beta test this wire. Bad move, Rob. Tsk. Tsk, I say.

 

[nightfell]

Matt, Here's what I've learned that works for me. I am NOT the expert, but I've been having some really good luck with my coils, so here goes.

I use about two or two and a half inches of wire per coil. I also use about two inches of wicking material for each coil, but I'm using cotton instead of silica. After I wrap the coil, then I end up cutting some of the wicking material off. Since I'm using cotton threads and/or yarns that I buy at Walmart or Michael's, it's super, super cheap and I never worry about waste or trying to conserve it.

If you decide to get a rebuildable and try your hand at wrapping coils (easy peasy), PM me and I'll send you a package of samples of all the cotton/bamboo wicking materials I've accumulated in my search for the "perfect" wick. I'd be very, very happy to do that. (This goes for anyone else who wants to try out some cotton wicking materials and doesn't want to buy a whole skein or ball of cotton crocket thread or knitting yarn.)

The wire I use is 32 AWG Kanthal. Rob has 28 gauge, 30 gauge, and 32 gauge on his site. There's a chart that is very informative about the resistance of the wire and the actual size if it at Resistance Wire (ohms/in). Here's the gist of it. The smaller the number, the "thicker" the wire, and the lower the resistence. So, for instance, an inch of the 28 gauge wire would give you a resistence of about .5 ohms, whereas an inch of the 32 gauge wire will give you about 1.4 ohms. We usually don't talk in inches, we talk in "wraps" around the wicking material, but it really has to do with how much wire you have between the two posts in your atty. I use about 4 - 5 wraps of 32 gauge Kanthal wire around my wicking material and between the pos. and neg. posts, which translates to roughly an inch of wire or so. I usually get a coil that meters in at about 1.5 ohms....perfect for my tastes. If I wanted higher ohms, I'd either go to a smaller wire (like 34 or 36 gauge kanthal....which I've never seen around these parts) and still use the 4 - 5 wraps, OR I'd go to a fatter wire like 28 gauge Kanthal and do more wraps. That's how that works.

I have my "sweet spot" which is a 1.5 ohm coil on either my REO Grand at 3.7 - 4.1 volts, or on my VV Grand. On the VV Grand, I still keep my volts set at around 4.1-4.3 volts. The vape is the same. The big difference is that the VV Grand will hold at that voltage longer than the REO Grand because it's regulated. The REO Grand battery will gradually go down with use until it's time to recharge.

There are some pretty good videos around showing how to wrap coils.

Hope this is not too much information..

JC Okie thanks so much for this post. One question, are you bracing the wire with anything when you're wrapping your coils?

 

[JC Okie]

JC Okie thanks so much for this post. One question, are you bracing the wire with anything when you're wrapping your coils?

Yes, I use a big needle. I wrap the coils pretty tightly around the needle and the wicking material, then when I pull the needle out, the thread (I use 100% cotton) is pretty loose until I wet it. Once I juice it up, it swells a lot and fills the coil. It's been working great.

Jan

 

[redeyedancer]

You didn't let me beta test this wire. Bad move, Rob. Tsk. Tsk, I say.

Shame on me

 

[ltrainer]

If we can prove our age over 50 do you think Rob would give us a magnifying glass with all 34 gauge that he sells?

 

[tmcase]

Yes, I use a big needle. I wrap the coils pretty tightly around the needle and the wicking material, then when I pull the needle out, the thread (I use 100% cotton) is pretty loose until I wet it. Once I juice it up, it swells a lot and fills the coil. It's been working great.

Jan

Do you cut the wick at the posts or leave them long enough to lay on the deck?

 

[JC Okie]

Do you cut the wick at the posts or leave them long enough to lay on the deck?

I usually cut the wick pretty short. I have found that too much wick is....too much. Seems to screw up (maybe) the airflow a little, or something. I did at first (leave tails) but didn't find that they worked any better than just chopping them off.

 

[tmcase]

I usually cut the wick pretty short. I have found that too much wick is....too much. Seems to screw up (maybe) the airflow a little, or something. I did at first (leave tails) but didn't find that they worked any better than just chopping them off.

Thanks for that info. I've only made 2 setups so far. One with cotton that I wrapped the ends around the posts but it burned through quickly. I wrapped around the posts to soak up juice on the deck. The second setup I used silica with 1 tail on the deck but haven't experimented enough to know if it is necessary. Sounds like it's not.

 

[JC Okie]

Thanks for that info. I've only made 2 setups so far. One with cotton that I wrapped the ends around the posts but it burned through quickly. I wrapped around the posts to soak up juice on the deck. The second setup I used silica with 1 tail on the deck but haven't experimented enough to know if it is necessary. Sounds like it's not.

It's all just so much trial and error. I've pretty much liked all my wicks...and I'm pretty much just trying all kinds of stuff. I have settled on the cotton wicking material I like, and so far I like the 32 gauge Kanthal (I've tried the 28 gauge and the 30 gauge, but keep coming back to the 32 gauge).....but I can't make myself leave it alone. Even though I love a wick, I still want to replace it and shoot for a "better" one. After awhile, they all blur. So, I end up always going back to what I'm most comfortable with.

 

[tmcase]

It's all just so much trial and error. I've pretty much liked all my wicks...and I'm pretty much just trying all kinds of stuff. I have settled on the cotton wicking material I like, and so far I like the 32 gauge Kanthal (I've tried the 28 gauge and the 30 gauge, but keep coming back to the 32 gauge).....but I can't make myself leave it alone. Even though I love a wick, I still want to replace it and shoot for a "better" one. After awhile, they all blur. So, I end up always going back to what I'm most comfortable with.

Yep, we're always looking for something better. I really like the cotton wicks. That's all I use on my Penelope but it didn't taste so good with the Reomizer but that might be because the ohms was too high. I'll be trying it again now that I can get 1.7 ohms.

 

[lazyymatt]

Yes, I use a big needle. I wrap the coils pretty tightly around the needle and the wicking material, then when I pull the needle out, the thread (I use 100% cotton) is pretty loose until I wet it. Once I juice it up, it swells a lot and fills the coil. It's been working great.

Jan

Thanks for all the advice Jan! I'm trying to visualize how you are wrapping the coils around the wick.... do you basically fold like an inch of the wick in half, stick a needle through the wick and wrap the wire around? I watched a video earlier and the guy would basically wrap his wire first onto a screw or something, pull it off and stick a needle through the wick and pull it through the coil. I'm also seeing a lot of pictures of people's RBA where the wick wraps all around the two posts....so a little more confusion lol. I saw pictures of how Rob does his where basically the wick just goes over the hole horizontally.. seems like the simplest way to do that. One more question (lol I have so many questions sorry ) if the wire is a little too long do you wrap it around the post and then screw it on or do you just cut off the excess and THEN put it on? THANKS for all your help! I probably will pick one of these up after I practice a little more with the 510 and 306 atomizers I have right now.

 

[nerak]

Thanks for all the advice Jan! I'm trying to visualize how you are wrapping the coils around the wick.... do you basically fold like an inch of the wick in half, stick a needle through the wick and wrap the wire around? I watched a video earlier and the guy would basically wrap his wire first onto a screw or something, pull it off and stick a needle through the wick and pull it through the coil. I'm also seeing a lot of pictures of people's RBA where the wick wraps all around the two posts....so a little more confusion lol. I saw pictures of how Rob does his where basically the wick just goes over the hole horizontally.. seems like the simplest way to do that. One more question (lol I have so many questions sorry ) if the wire is a little too long do you wrap it around the post and then screw it on or do you just cut off the excess and THEN put it on? THANKS for all your help! I probably will pick one of these up after I practice a little more with the 510 and 306 atomizers I have right now.

The total length of wire will determine the ohms. Put the wire of the coil through the posts (in the hole) tighten the screws to hold it. Trim off the excess coming through the other side when done.
I make my coils and install them with the atty on the ohm meter. It holds it in place well. You can also meter the coil with the wire in the posts before you cut the excess wire off. Then after. Also any adjustments to the wire can be made and read again.

 

[Commie]

The only correct answer is toothpick Wrap the coil around a toothpick. On a non-conductive object you can keep measuring the resistance of the coil as you're wrapping it. When you get the resistance you want, you can put the coil with the said non-conductive object into the atty. After you position it where you want it and attach it, you can pull out the toothpick and feed the wick through the coil.

This worked great on my phoenix. Haven't tried on a reomizer yet, since I'm still enjoying Rob's premade coil. And vision still fuzzy from yesterday's nic coma