I know you asked major, but my findings are that 901's have better flavor but less throat hit and comparable vapor production.
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I know you asked major, but my findings are that 901's have better flavor but less throat hit and comparable vapor production.
Plus 1 to Inquisitorj. Outside of a tank environment, a 901 generally delivers better flavor and a 510, a warmer and stronger throat hit. Now that may not be the case with the UFS. I am excited to get it and see for myslef. I know for the last generation of tanks (AVSv2/AFS/v3) the true experienced guys like Ripple and Hopeful will tell you in a heartbeat that the 901/808 was the better atty type for it.
With so much customization and inter blending of components and build styles, I don't know if it is any longer so noticeable or if it is just personal preference. Take me. Even though I smoked for 41 plus years, the last 23 plus was smoking and dipping. The biggest nic hit I got was from dipping so to me, the flavor trumps the throat hit. And that's one reason I am so content at 3.7 versus HV.
On the atty itself, there are different dynamics the pros here can explain or say it's irrelevant but there is still a difference. I think it translates to different performance but who knows?
The 510's have air intake below the coil, are physically shorter putting your mouth closer to the coil and are generally graded at lower ohms for LR, Std and HV. The 901 has a side intake vent, is physically longer than the 510 (more like a standard carto) and has a higher ohm ratings.
Like the 510 LR is 1.5 or so where a LR 901 is generally 2.0 just as an example. I repeat that a lot of this is subjective and and a lot may be "true" to me because I simply have been told it enough and been satisfied enough with the 901 to be happy. That all may change with the UFS but it is one reason I look forward to it. With the exception of the AVSv2, my atty experience has been primarily outside of a tank environment but 901's and 808's got me off the dip so I am partial to them whether there is a valid physical reason to be or not until the UFS arrives.
With so much customization and inter blending of components and build styles, I don't know if it is any longer so noticeable or if it is just personal preference. Take me. Even though I smoked for 41 plus years, the last 23 plus was smoking and dipping. The biggest nic hit I got was from dipping so to me, the flavor trumps the throat hit. And that's one reason I am so content at 3.7 versus HV.
On the atty itself, there are different dynamics the pros here can explain or say it's irrelevant but there is still a difference. I think it translates to different performance but who knows?
The 510's have air intake below the coil, are physically shorter putting your mouth closer to the coil and are generally graded at lower ohms for LR, Std and HV. The 901 has a side intake vent, is physically longer than the 510 (more like a standard carto) and has a higher ohm ratings.Like the 510 LR is 1.5 or so where a LR 901 is generally 2.0 just as an example. I repeat that a lot of this is subjective and and a lot may be "true" to me because I simply have been told it enough and been satisfied enough with the 901 to be happy. That all may change with the UFS but it is one reason I look forward to it. With the exception of the AVSv2, my atty experience has been primarily outside of a tank environment but 901's and 808's got me off the dip so I am partial to them whether there is a valid physical reason to be or not until the UFS arrives.
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Indeed said the old dude while he takes a pull of his GGTS with an Ikenvape 901 2.0 atty.
Cartos are not the healthier thing to my opinion ED.
Yes I too have concerns about what I am inhaling when I use a cartomizer. No more than we want to have the coating from an atty in our lungs, I doubt that we want the chemicals from a burned carto filler either. God only knows what they use to make the fillers with. Could be anything from mystery fiber to squares cut from a Chinamans old socks.
Well I have been using Boge on tanks and haven't yet got a burnt taste but I know what you mean. I have some of those Kanger Horizontal bottom coil cartos on their way to me and I planned on using these since these types of coils were made to help wicking and prevent burnt filler.
I did do the atty thing but I too was concerned at what that primer stuff is made of as that stuff really tasted awful. I mean I would blow the stuff out and but the only way I knew to completely get rid of it was to vape through it and I just got tired and that song and dance.
I appreciate the help and information but I guess in the end I have my answer that the UFS is not really geared towards carto users
and as much as I really wanted to get it, it just makes more sense not to after all the input I received.I'll just sit back and try to be patient for the iAtty2 and VV addon
Thanks again for all the input.
I'm a pretty new vapor, only starting toward the end of July. I have very limited experience with different attys. But I've been mindful of the exact sequence involved for my new, just-unwrapped Joye 510 1.5 ohm attys. I put my mouth over the threads and blew the primer into a sink. One drop, two drops, then stubbornly blow for a few more seconds till finally a third drop comes out. I can blow till kingdom come thereafter with no more drops of primer coming out. I twist up a bit of toilet paper and wipe the primer off the inside wall of the atty tube. I drip about 8 - 10 drops of my 50/50 juice onto the bridge, screw it onto a battery, give it a couple of quick powered puffs with no inhale, and I'm good to go. No primer taste, and I didn't have to soak or rinse or anything terribly complicated.
Well I have been using Boge on tanks and haven't yet got a burnt taste but I know what you mean. I have some of those Kanger Horizontal bottom coil cartos on their way to me and I planned on using these since these types of coils were made to help wicking and prevent burnt filler.
I did do the atty thing but I too was concerned at what that primer stuff is made of as that stuff really tasted awful. I mean I would blow the stuff out and but the only way I knew to completely get rid of it was to vape through it and I just got tired and that song and dance.
I appreciate the help and information but I guess in the end I have my answer that the UFS is not really geared towards carto users
I'll just sit back and try to be patient for the iAtty2 and VV addon
Thanks again for all the input.
And please don't let my reservations fool you about what camp I am in. I still use Kanger 3ml horizontal cartros when out and about. I still think that what I said is an unknown and thus a bit bothersome though. And on the atty side of the picture, you hit the nail on the head.
God only knows what the so called primer is made of. I guess at the end of the day, it's just like batteries. You make a choice and go with it knowing nothing is 100% safe. Period. So we make the best informed decision we are most comfortable with and move along until the industry is building componenets such as attys and cartos in an environment we know will be held accountable for unsafe practices.
I'll say also that the only reason I don't have an iAtty is dexterity issues that prevent me from doing fine work like making a coil. I tried. But I do think that solution is the best available since you control what the coils, wick, etc. are made of. For those of us that can't though, it is definitely a dicey proposition at this stage of the PV industry.
I do like my rebuildable attys. Just finished wrapping a new coil on my iAtty 2.2ohm and now I shall admire my dexterous handy work for a couple hours before I decide which juice I want sloshing about in there for the next few weeks. I think I shall try fruity flavors this time. Last time it was all about the tobaccos.
Just got in my first batch of Resurrectors which were one of the recommended cartos for the UFS as well as another mod I use regularly. It's going to take a while to decide what to fill my first one of these up with as well. I have such a hard time deciding what to christen attys, cartos, rebuildables and tanks with.
Just got in my first batch of Resurrectors which were one of the recommended cartos for the UFS as well as another mod I use regularly. It's going to take a while to decide what to fill my first one of these up with as well. I have such a hard time deciding what to christen attys, cartos, rebuildables and tanks with.
wind I have 4 Resurrectors you can have them, yuck. Nice TH but I can't get any vapor out of the one I tried. I hate cartos anyways.
You may want to try another one kcos. From my experience, one Resurrector out of 4 or 5 doesn't work very well. Poor QC. When you do get a good one, they are actually very nice at 3.7V, no shortage in the vapor or TH department. And they work beautifully in a tank imo. I wouldn't give up before knowing for sure.
And I agree silentt. DCC at HV rock!
You may want to try another one kcos. From my experience, one Resurrector out of 4 or 5 doesn't work very well. Poor QC. When you do get a good one, they are actually very nice at 3.7V, no shortage in the vapor or TH department. And they work beautifully in a tank imo. I wouldn't give up before knowing for sure.
And I agree silentt. DCC at HV rock!
OK I will try one more .
I was pondering that pre-order but I do so want to get a full something GG from COV and not just my pieces and parts.
Going on Voporologist's, and a few others', advice I shall be trying Resurrectors. I shall also give dual coils a try soon. But most importantly in 5 days I shall have my chance at a UFS.
Going on Voporologist's, and a few others', advice I shall be trying Resurrectors. I shall also give dual coils a try soon. But most importantly in 5 days I shall have my chance at a UFS.
Ahem, well technically it's only 4 days now and counting until Imeo unleashes the next wave of UFS on the vaping world! 
Don't forget to try the triple coil cartos - they are great at 6V, seems a tad more flavor than the DC's at same volts
Thanks to all this great advice the UFS accessories are beginning to add up. Resurrectors, DCC's, Triple Coils, 901's, 510's, LR, HV and thanks to Dspin I just learned that with a VV module it won't matter what atty or carto I stick in the UFS the module will magically make everything okay. NICE!
That is all true wing but when VV module does come out you will definitely need help of magic to get your hands on one
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