Hey what's up man did you get your package yet
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The Vmod XL 18650 Bottom Feeding Mod from Vapage.com
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Hey what's up man did you get your package yet
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I have my Provari w/ AW IMR 18650 set @ 5.5 volts w/Boge 3.0 carto. I get almost 2 days of vaping between battery swaps.
Maybe 5 -6 hours....no more.........and that is at 4.5V....it's my sweet spot with a 2.8ohm (well that is what the ProVari says) atty.
AW IMR 18650 1600mAh
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I'm on 1 1/2 days in my provari 18650 pushing 3 amps into a 1.25 ohm dual coil. To be fair I don't get a ton of vape time at work, and at home I swap devices around a bit. It started at 4.1 volts and I'm down to 3.6. So it will last me at least the rest of the day and some of tonight. This is with a 1600 mah aw.
I chain vape at my desk. On the ProVari I use AW 1600 & 2000 mAh IMRs. With 1.6 ohm tanks at 3.8v, and 2.4-2.8 ohmers at 4.5v, after about 2 hrs, the ProVari starts blinking, then pretty soon goes into fastblink. Is it defective?
On the XL, using 2600 mAh AW Protecteds into either of my 1.5ohm HH.357s, I get over 6 hrs of a surprisingly even chain-vape, that's from 10.5 down to 8 watts, and it's still nice when the battery shuts off, around 7 watts. Strange. Using say an IKV 1.8 atty, an 1.8 ohm i06, or a 2.2 ohm Vapage Uni, or 2 a ohm carto, it's sizzly to start, then half-way gets weak.
BTW, I don't think you can crack anything but the bottle by oversquirshing. It looks like the whole feed-well from the bottle threading to the 510 connector is one continuous piece of metal, and the plastic just holds it in place, so cracks could develop from the metal being press-fitted, but wouldn't really affect anything.
On the XL, using 2600 mAh AW Protecteds into either of my 1.5ohm HH.357s, I get over 6 hrs of a surprisingly even chain-vape, that's from 10.5 down to 8 watts, and it's still nice when the battery shuts off, around 7 watts. Strange. Using say an IKV 1.8 atty, an 1.8 ohm i06, or a 2.2 ohm Vapage Uni, or 2 a ohm carto, it's sizzly to start, then half-way gets weak.
BTW, I don't think you can crack anything but the bottle by oversquirshing. It looks like the whole feed-well from the bottle threading to the 510 connector is one continuous piece of metal, and the plastic just holds it in place, so cracks could develop from the metal being press-fitted, but wouldn't really affect anything.
Probably not.........I do have one battery, a 1600mAh that seems to not last as long as the others.....like 3 hours.....I figured it was battery variance in the quality control during the manufacturing process. But the guys at ProVape seem pretty good about questions and support for the ProVari..............in my experience anyway
Shoot them an email and see if it might be a defective device...... I've read they fiercely back the product.
No, it's not defective. It fast blinks when you need to change batteries.
18650 aw IMR (extended) Provari gives me at least 3 to 4 hours of heavy vaping; down to 3.2 or 3.3v.
18500 imr aw (18490) cuts that about 1/3 time.
I'm a heavy vaper and I just don't buy accounts of "i'm on my 22nd hour" or "2 days"... so glad you're being realistic.
(btw, i was getting more time out of the Provari than the Buzz Pro (2x16340).
If you check you batt when the light blinks and it's in the 3.5 to 3.8 range, something is wrong with the provari; there are fixes. 1. clean your contacts w/alcohol. 2. get the new spring.
Provari's bought over the last 6 months of so have the new heavier spring.
i have ordered a couple HH 357 1.5's for my XL and my Reo Mini... never tried them yet.
I appreciate Fernand's comments about sticking with certain LRs on 3.7 unregulated or vv. It's something that I am newly enjoying after being strictly regulated VV for over a year now. Ive learned enough about resistance and voltage with the Vari meter functions that I can have fun matching attys with 3.7 pv's now.
That's why I'm not interested in the Kick for the XL or any other, and if I did have Kick or a regulated, I'd certainly stick it at 3.7 tops for a long while before I started getting into 2.5 Ohms and up again.
That said, there's a time and place for that; just not now.
18500 imr aw (18490) cuts that about 1/3 time.
I'm a heavy vaper and I just don't buy accounts of "i'm on my 22nd hour" or "2 days"... so glad you're being realistic.
(btw, i was getting more time out of the Provari than the Buzz Pro (2x16340).
If you check you batt when the light blinks and it's in the 3.5 to 3.8 range, something is wrong with the provari; there are fixes. 1. clean your contacts w/alcohol. 2. get the new spring.
Provari's bought over the last 6 months of so have the new heavier spring.
i have ordered a couple HH 357 1.5's for my XL and my Reo Mini... never tried them yet.
I appreciate Fernand's comments about sticking with certain LRs on 3.7 unregulated or vv. It's something that I am newly enjoying after being strictly regulated VV for over a year now. Ive learned enough about resistance and voltage with the Vari meter functions that I can have fun matching attys with 3.7 pv's now.
That's why I'm not interested in the Kick for the XL or any other, and if I did have Kick or a regulated, I'd certainly stick it at 3.7 tops for a long while before I started getting into 2.5 Ohms and up again.
That said, there's a time and place for that; just not now.
Ohhhh........ LOL........ I thought because the battery life was not like 8 hours it may be defective.......the flashing light
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Oops, OK don't take my word for it. Maybe there is a difference between fast and slow blink? All I know is that when mine starts blinking I need to change the battery. The battery life depends on the carto resistance and voltage. I'm often surprised at how quickly it runs down compared to my other PVs and I'm usually under 4 (3.7ish).Ohhhh........ LOL........ I thought because the battery life was not like 8 hours it may be defective.......the flashing light
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I can usually get another 35-45 minutes -an hour, out of mine when it starts to flash......I usually just allow the device to shut down (the rapidly flashing red led)....BUT I have read that this may not be a good thing for the battery......to allow them to drop to far in voltage. On the VMOD, when the draw cools to a level I find to be annoying I change the battery and may be treating the battery better???
Yes, me too. Sometimes I ignore the blinking - until it gets too annoying lol. I don't usually let it run down completely though. I've only changed out the XL battery once (I've only had it for a few days) and not because I noticed any drop in vapor, just because I'm so used to changing batteries out. But with the Provari, it's usually once a day, if I'm using it a lot or sometimes even twice.
I have a good charger, (that I can charge many size batteries for most of my mods, but not all) but if I ever buy another one, I'm getting one of those huge ones - that charge many batteries at once. Less clutter!
It blinks slowly when you're "getting low" at 3.7v then fast when you're "done". I forget the exact voltage. I think my ProVari is normal. My point was that chain-vaping I get about 2-3 times more vaping out of a stock protected battery straight than with the biggest high-drain IMRs on a VV circuit. Voltage converters are never 100% efficient.
I actually go through an XL bottle of juice daily, and swap the 2600 mAh AW at least twice a day. The XL to me is an important "life accessory", not overkill. That's why I'm on here, testing and reporting. It took me a while to get to where I'm really satisfied with a PV. People who vape "moderately" and get 2 days out of a battery are in a different world from us XL hard-cores. They'd probably be OK on an eGo with a big carto. My wife's like that. For the hard core vaper the Kick with the smaller battery sounds to me like it's going to be more trouble than it's worth, with battery swapping every couple hours, while with the right atty a straight 3.7v can be quite good for 6+ hrs. But I could be wrong, and isn't it wonderful, we'll soon know.
I actually go through an XL bottle of juice daily, and swap the 2600 mAh AW at least twice a day. The XL to me is an important "life accessory", not overkill. That's why I'm on here, testing and reporting. It took me a while to get to where I'm really satisfied with a PV. People who vape "moderately" and get 2 days out of a battery are in a different world from us XL hard-cores. They'd probably be OK on an eGo with a big carto. My wife's like that. For the hard core vaper the Kick with the smaller battery sounds to me like it's going to be more trouble than it's worth, with battery swapping every couple hours, while with the right atty a straight 3.7v can be quite good for 6+ hrs. But I could be wrong, and isn't it wonderful, we'll soon know.
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I'm pretty hard core but as a heavily addicted smoker for almost 30 years, I don't care. I am just so darn proud of myself for kicking the stinkies in the trash where they belong.
Oh and I'm SO happy with my XL. Continuous filling of cartos was getting so old. I LOVE this no fuss vaping now. Don't know why I took sooooo long to go bottom feeder. Must have been those horribly pricy wooden ones that was holding me back hehe. I must especially thank you Fernand. I mentioned in the beginning that I read the entire thread from start to finish and it was mostly your observations that convinced me - so TA.
Yep, I'm also not going to go for the kick. I'm very pleased with my XL and my general setup now. I have my XL for fuss free vaping, my Provari with lil' Mama tank for poshness and my VV Box for spare or different flavor, plus I have a few others in favorites in rotation too. Just waiting to pretty up my mod with a nice sleeve before I take it in public. But I am already taking it for my dog's daily 2 hour walks (1 hour in the AM and one in the PM). Easy to vape with gloves ON and holding an umbrella hehe... Also no chance of vaping anything dry or running out of battery life either, yippee! Doggy happy too. Nothing can cut his walk shorter than flat PV battery or flat iPod battery. No audiobook and/or no vaping, equals very SHORT walk in the park!
Happy camper here.
Oh and I'm SO happy with my XL. Continuous filling of cartos was getting so old. I LOVE this no fuss vaping now. Don't know why I took sooooo long to go bottom feeder. Must have been those horribly pricy wooden ones that was holding me back hehe. I must especially thank you Fernand. I mentioned in the beginning that I read the entire thread from start to finish and it was mostly your observations that convinced me - so TA
.Yep, I'm also not going to go for the kick. I'm very pleased with my XL and my general setup now. I have my XL for fuss free vaping, my Provari with lil' Mama tank for poshness and my VV Box for spare or different flavor, plus I have a few others in favorites in rotation too. Just waiting to pretty up my mod with a nice sleeve before I take it in public. But I am already taking it for my dog's daily 2 hour walks (1 hour in the AM and one in the PM). Easy to vape with gloves ON and holding an umbrella hehe... Also no chance of vaping anything dry or running out of battery life either, yippee! Doggy happy too. Nothing can cut his walk shorter than flat PV battery or flat iPod battery. No audiobook and/or no vaping, equals very SHORT walk in the park!
Happy camper here.
I think measuring battery time by juice consumption is a better yardstick than "vaping time". I've gone through a DCT map tank, refilled it and I'm about 2/3 of the way through that refill (so 1 and 2/3 tanks full) and my battery is reading 3.5 volts (so about 0.2 - 0.3 volts from shutting down).
This is with an 18650 1600 mah AW IMR. It's pretty new however - and only been through about 3 full cycles. I also meter mine as they come off the charger to make sure they aren't under or over charged.
1 - 2 days isn't unheard of, but again it depends on your vaping habits. I'm sure if I chain vaped it straight for 2 hours I could probably run the battery down. And I mean chain vape - not "LOL i chain vape for real guys!".
This is with an 18650 1600 mah AW IMR. It's pretty new however - and only been through about 3 full cycles. I also meter mine as they come off the charger to make sure they aren't under or over charged.
1 - 2 days isn't unheard of, but again it depends on your vaping habits. I'm sure if I chain vaped it straight for 2 hours I could probably run the battery down. And I mean chain vape - not "LOL i chain vape for real guys!".
@Vaptamist, how many ml in your tank? I can vape down one of these 3.5 ml tanks (BTW very nice units for an eGo) on a charge w/ my Provari, especially if I contact-clean it (whoever suggested that, than you!), but not quite one of the 5 ml ones. I don't enlarge the hole and I vape all-VG juice, maybe that makes a difference. I've had the same 1.6 ohm carto on it for weeks.
http://www.madvapes.com/Dual-Coil-510-Chrome-Tank-Cartomizer-35ml_p_3446.html
We ALL real here! And we have the pleasure of thick vapor, marvelous flavors, nicotine if we want, all without having to inhale the toxic products of a fire. My first encounter with tobacco was a pack of Winstons we kids pooled our allowances to buy. And opening that pack was so sweet, it smelled so good, a flavor of dried fruit and sun-grown leaves. Lighting them was another story. It didn't smell or taste as good, it was a big disappointment. The same with cigars, made with such loving care, that never tasted as good burned as they did in their aromatic cedarwood box. Vaping was like finding my way back to a world of beautiful flavors that tobacco promised but never lived up to ... I'm off to mix up some elegant Toscano Cigar and pastry shop Golden Macaroon.
@Dragonbone, I'm so happy you are enjoying it as much as I do! The silver just might look nice with the aluminum sanded, polished and buffed to a mirror finish and lacquered.
One more note on the HH.357. They do vary. My number one seems always a bit finickier to feed, perfect when you drive it right. The second one is a Vaping for Dummies dream, it's like driving a bulldozer through a wheat field, no-brainer, always perfect.
http://www.madvapes.com/Dual-Coil-510-Chrome-Tank-Cartomizer-35ml_p_3446.html
We ALL real here! And we have the pleasure of thick vapor, marvelous flavors, nicotine if we want, all without having to inhale the toxic products of a fire. My first encounter with tobacco was a pack of Winstons we kids pooled our allowances to buy. And opening that pack was so sweet, it smelled so good, a flavor of dried fruit and sun-grown leaves. Lighting them was another story. It didn't smell or taste as good, it was a big disappointment. The same with cigars, made with such loving care, that never tasted as good burned as they did in their aromatic cedarwood box. Vaping was like finding my way back to a world of beautiful flavors that tobacco promised but never lived up to ... I'm off to mix up some elegant Toscano Cigar and pastry shop Golden Macaroon.
@Dragonbone, I'm so happy you are enjoying it as much as I do! The silver just might look nice with the aluminum sanded, polished and buffed to a mirror finish and lacquered.
One more note on the HH.357. They do vary. My number one seems always a bit finickier to feed, perfect when you drive it right. The second one is a Vaping for Dummies dream, it's like driving a bulldozer through a wheat field, no-brainer, always perfect.
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Not yet, hopefully today. USPS seems to have sent it on a world tour with multiple stops in the same place. If you want a laugh, check out the tracking status. It's been here in OC since Monday, but it's slowly making its ways to just about every post office but mine! In fact it was only about 6 mi. away on Monday, then 35 miles, this morning it's 15!
Wow really that sucks man hopefuly today then let me know
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I thought I was alone in not having an immediate interest in the Kick. This is so interesting that quite a few are now reporting that they don't want one. I also think that someday there might be a place for one, but for me, not at the moment. I actually found myself shopping for a tube mod so that I could use the Kick. That's just backwards!
dragonbone, I think you may have come up with a great new slogan for Vapage.
dragonbone, I think you may have come up with a great new slogan for Vapage.
Make your dog happy! Vape a VMOD!
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