The Wetbox: One Week In

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The Wetbox: A One Week Review

What started out as a "where have you been all my life" relationship turned quickly into a "listen, we have to talk" situation. It's not that I don't like what the Wetbox has to offer, which is a convenient way to vape on the go. It's not that bad a product. But for all it's good qualities, it's just not the reliable go-to PV I hoped it would be.

First, the good. It's relatively inexpensive. I bought mine from Nhaler, and with two high drain 14500 batteries, a charger, two 3ml juice bottles, and an extra box of five regular 510 cartomizers, the total shipped price was under $90 (including a 10% discount code found on this forum.) Not a bad price at all for someone who initially was looking at the $135 Ali'i and Journeyman box mods from R&R Manufacturing. And to sweeten the deal, Nhaler threw in a sample bottle of juice. Nice (although the sample's 10MG nicotine content is a little light for my needs.)

Also good: The Wetbox uses a bottom fed system to keep the cartomizer wet and vapable. The onboard bottle holds an adequate supply of juice for a day's worth of vaping, and the 14500 batteries last longer than the batteries that come with a more traditional-looking e-cig, like an RN4081. In theory, one could fill up the Wetbox, slap in a charged battery, and vape all day, with no need for extra cartos, batteries, or juice taking up precious pocket space.

In fact, one of the reasons I went with the Wetbox, aside from the price, was the fact that many of the other reviews and forum comments I read about it touted the long battery life, in some cases, up to 12 hours. Well, I guess that just shows that one shouldn't believe everything one reads. Which brings me to the bad.

The Wetbox has better battery life than many older models of e-cigs, maybe, but providing an average time of 3-5 hours of moderate vaping, the Wetbox falls way short of the 12 hour claims posted by many fans. And the belief that the Wetbox is all you need for a day of vaping is also a bit of a fallacy. The device uses 510 cartomizers which, in my experience, just plain stink. Fresh from the package, they rock the vapor and kick the throat for all of 20 minutes, and then vapor and throat hit dramatically drop off until they end up either clogging up or just plain dying. One lasted me a coupld of hours, most lasted about two days. One made it to three days, but with little to no throat hit for most of the third day.

I get it that these cartomizers are intended to be disposable, but then again, so are atomizers. And my experience with atomizers has been much, much better. Most last at least a month, and during their lifespan, vapor production and throat hit remain pretty consistent. But I don't want this to turn into a review of cartos vs. attys. Suffice to say that any juice box mod designed around cartomizers is starting off with a pretty big strike against it. Even if the problems with the Wetbox can be fully attributed to its reliance on these inferior parts, the fact that they are required makes it the Wetbox's main flaw.

Some people claim success using LR 510 cartomizers with the Wetbox, which should give it better vapor and a stronger throat hit, but even while approving them for use with the device, the Wetbox's creator, someone named Missy, cautions buyers to "use at their own risk". And although many users have posted on the forums that regular 510 atomizers work with it as well, others claim that the juice feeding tube is either too short or too long, and that the atomizers, with their lack of absorbent filler material, leak. And those leaks have resulted in numerous claims of failed power switches, rendering the Wetbox useless and in need of repair.

These switch issues are among the most common complaints of users of the Wetbox. Scour this, and other, forums, and you'll see lots of posts by people who have experienced failed switches due to burning out (usually with LR cartos) or shorting out (usually due to leaking juice.) And with no warranty to speak of, the only solution is to ship the dead Wetbox back to Missy, with $15 to cover the cost of repair. A few dead switches, and the price advantage of this device could soon evaporate.

So with its inconsistent vapor production and throat hit, disappointing battery life, potential for switch failure, and lack of options for use with both atomizers and cartomizers, the Wetbox has left me feeling flat. It's a nice-looking mod, and mine was assembled well enough, but I need a PV that will fire up reliably and provide a consistent vaping experience with a minimum of fuss.

As far as I'm concerned, the Wetbox has failed to deliver what I had hoped for. So on a scale of 1-10, I give the Wetbox a 5. I'll continue to use it for now, but I'll still keep my trusty old RN4081 on deck as a backup.
 

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I like the 510 version....cartos are lasting me a long time. Mabe you got crappy 510 cartos?

I hate the KR808 version for 808 cartos. It's crap w/all KR cartos. I put an 808>510 adaptor on it and am running a 510 HR atty on it and it works like a champ. I think the adaptor stops the leaks cause it just doesn't leak at all!
 

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The Wetbox has better battery life than many older models of e-cigs, maybe, but providing an average time of 3-5 hours of moderate vaping, the Wetbox falls way short of the 12 hour claims posted by many fans. And the belief that the Wetbox is all you need for a day of vaping is also a bit of a fallacy.
Wouldn't that be a battery issue & not the wetbox? I get over 8 hours on mine

The device uses 510 cartomizers which, in my experience, just plain stink. Fresh from the package, they rock the vapor and kick the throat for all of 20 minutes, and then vapor and throat hit dramatically drop off until they end up either clogging up or just plain dying. One lasted me a coupld of hours, most lasted about two days. One made it to three days, but with little to no throat hit for most of the third day.

I get it that these cartomizers are intended to be disposable, but then again, so are atomizers. And my experience with atomizers has been much, much better. Most last at least a month, and during their lifespan, vapor production and throat hit remain pretty consistent. But I don't want this to turn into a review of cartos vs. attys. Suffice to say that any juice box mod designed around cartomizers is starting off with a pretty big strike against it. Even if the problems with the Wetbox can be fully attributed to its reliance on these inferior parts, the fact that they are required makes it the Wetbox's main flaw.
Mybe you've been using crappy cartos? Vertical coil cartos work a lot better than the horizontals with wetbox

These switch issues are among the most common complaints of users of the Wetbox. Scour this, and other, forums, and you'll see lots of posts by people who have experienced failed switches due to burning out (usually with LR cartos) or shorting out (usually due to leaking juice.) And with no warranty to speak of, the only solution is to ship the dead Wetbox back to Missy, with $15 to cover the cost of repair. A few dead switches, and the price advantage of this device could soon evaporate.

So with its inconsistent vapor production and throat hit, disappointing battery life, potential for switch failure, and lack of options for use with both atomizers and cartomizers, the Wetbox has left me feeling flat. It's a nice-looking mod, and mine was assembled well enough, but I need a PV that will fire up reliably and provide a consistent vaping experience with a minimum of fuss.

As far as I'm concerned, the Wetbox has failed to deliver what I had hoped for. So on a scale of 1-10, I give the Wetbox a 5. I'll continue to use it for now, but I'll still keep my trusty old RN4081 on deck as a backup.
I've had my wetbox for two months using low res cartos and have not had any switch failure yet. You do need to keep the box clean and dry from the leaked juice. I take mine apart every night and clean it with paper towel. That is well worth the convenience.
 
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Good honest review with a couple of flaws unfortunately.

The IMR HD 14500 battery is 600 mAH vice 900mAh for a standard *** fire series. It will provide lesser vaping time, but at the correct current using LR attys.

The wetbox was never designed to use attys but the KR8 cartos and later the 510 cartos.

Folks have modified their boxes to be able to use attys. The inventor might have modified (read at a later stage) the original design to accomodate attys, I don't know but doubt it.

It was definitely not designed for LRs, not with the rating capacity of its components. However some unscrupulous vendors have marketed it with LRs and HD batteries, based on reviews of folks who went that route. At the end of the day, a vendor sells stuff ...

The design concept was sound. Unfortunately packing that much stuff in such a small package meant compromise. Both the on/of switch are rated for 0.5A never intended to be used for vaping.

When a vendor says use at your own risk, that's what it means. Sorry...
 

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Nice review ACM. The Wetbox is a great inexpensive introduction into bottom fed mods for people disenchanted with all the legwork involved with 2 and 3 piece PVs. Unfortnately, it also comes with some drawbacks. If used for it's intended purpose, long life and satisfactory vaping can be obtained. Step outside those boundries and the chance for issues increases. I considered the Wetbox a stepping stone to higher end mods. The low intial investment is good for people to test the waters before they move to a higher end model. Take it as you will, but the old saying "You get what you pay for" certainly applies to this mod. I loved my Wetbox when I got it, and I loved it when I sold it. It served it's purpose and convinced me that dragging around a shopping cart full of vaping equipment in order to make it through the day was not for me. I'll tell anyone interested to give it a try because of the price and that it is a decent starter mod. Vape on!
 

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Good review, its accurate to my experience. I used it with LR510, because they are mentioned in the web space, and it arrived with a cut-off needle, that didn't produce as much juice as it seemed to need. I was squeezing it constantly and getting little juice flow. I lasted a week with mine, and I haven't used it since, sorry NHaler, it wasn't the right thing for me. I'm sorry to throw you under the buss but it was one of the more disappointing devices that Ive bought.
Frankly when I order a mod, first and foremost it needs to do what It suggests that it will do. I don't mind messing around with stuff, but I really want it to produce as the web space suggests that it will with the products as mentioned their. My 2 cents.
 

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Good review and a lot of good reply points. I'm curious 'mike':
I hate the KR808 version for 808 cartos. It's crap w/all KR cartos. I put an 808>510 adaptor on it and am running a 510 HR atty on it and it works like a champ. I think the adaptor stops the leaks cause it just doesn't leak at all!

I heard a while back that using an adapter on the 808 model wouldn't work due to the needle size, etc. But if you're saying it works and may stop leaks that sounds like a good bet.
 

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I just got an 808 Wetbox!!!!! Tried a cool cart from V4L (higher ohm) carto and it is not producing much vapor. So I switched to the new carto (one only---no idea what kind) it came with and the vapor production is great!!!!! I got it with the unit which I purchased at Vapor Flow. I have a couple new CE2's from COV, but I haven't tried them yet...I think they are 2.5 ohm type. I wanted to try the regular filler cartos first as that is what most of my stash is.

For you 808 carto users...where do you get your cartos for the wetbox? What has been your experience with the different 808 cartos?
 

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For you 808 carto users...where do you get your cartos for the wetbox? What has been your experience with the different 808 cartos?

The Cool/Turbo/etc. carts don't work as well since the opening is narrow. The needle takes up a certain amount of space thus making the draw hard. Regular 808 cartos work well.

I've been using my CE2's exclusively but not on my Wetbox since the switch is dead. Many people have and seem to love that combo though.
 

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What started out as a "where have you been all my life" relationship turned quickly into a "listen, we have to talk" situation.

That sums it up pretty well! Very nice review, it's definitely not a perfect device, when I'm on the go I need a spare battery, a spare cartomizer and just to be safe a spare wetbox, so 2 complete wetbox! But at 50$ it's cheap enough to have two, instead of just one for another model that sells for 135-150$ so I'll stick with my wetboxes. How painful would it be if a pricier PV would give you problems :(
 

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Turbo:


How did your switch die?.....just trying to plan ahead and maybe? prevent a problem here. Also, I read somewhere on the forum that an 808 wetbox user uses a nail to carefully make the battery hole bigger on the carto so that the higher ohm cartos will work also. I may try this, but it seems to me that the higher resistance of those cartos will also diminish vapor production in addition to the air flow blockage. I did make a little silicone square to put on the needle bottle in hopes that it might catch some liquid in case of a leak. I cut out a small square from one of the condom caps and put a hole in the center of it and just threaded it on the needle to where it connects to the bottle....don't know if this will help any, though.
 

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How did your switch die?.....just trying to plan ahead and maybe? prevent a problem here. Also, I read somewhere on the forum that an 808 wetbox user uses a nail to carefully make the battery hole bigger on the carto so that the higher ohm cartos will work also. I may try this, but it seems to me that the higher resistance of those cartos will also diminish vapor production in addition to the air flow blockage. I did make a little silicone square to put on the needle bottle in hopes that it might catch some liquid in case of a leak. I cut out a small square from one of the condom caps and put a hole in the center of it and just threaded it on the needle to where it connects to the bottle....don't know if this will help any, though.

I think liquid got in my switch early on due to a faulty bottle. There are some good tips on this thread with using a napkin to collect any juice that spills out. Also periodically cleaning the switches w/ WD40 is a good idea.

Yes, I've heard of that trick w/ the Premium cartos. I'm sure that would work.

In the same thread linked above someone made a silicone sleeve like you describe. That would help but the paper towel would absorb. Maybe use both in tandem if it's not too tight in there?
 

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Ok....I did check out the rest and I have a question. The battery that I got with mine from Vapor Flow says BDL imr14500 600mah 3.7volt and it is BLUE. The ones on COV that are listed as high drain are RED. I would like to try out my new CE2's that are 2.5 ohm, but I don't want to short the Wetbox. In that thread, they specifically say not to use high drain batteries. How do I know if this BLUE one is a high drain one?

The pic on VF of the high drains are also RED....guess I will email them (EDIT)
 
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I've had a WetBox on my list to add to my other mods, but given the problems & what seems to be design and switch flaws, I think that I will pass. I have a REO, REO Mini, and Phidias - all "auto or bottom feeders" like the WetBox, but without the problems outlined here - "using a napkin to collect any juice that spills out," "the napkin mod," "liquid got in my switch early on due to a faulty bottle," "periodically cleaning the switches," "it's definitely not a perfect device, when I'm on the go I need a spare battery, a spare cartomizer and just to be safe a spare wetbox, so 2 complete Wetboxs". Maybe I'm missing something, why save money on a cheaper mod if you have to endure all of these problems - spend a little more money and enjoy your vaping without all of the hassles.
 
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