The first time i removed the glass on both of mine, it was pretty dang tight. Since then...after a bit of condensation on the o-rings it slides much nicer, but not so easy that I fear pulling it off accidentally.
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I struggled with removing the glass the other night. A fat rubber band around the outside for grip worked wonders...
Yesterday i was probably the last person to receive their Angelcigs pre order.
I got rid of the installed cotton. That stuff was a mess. I put my own cotton in but have since switched to rayon. Rayon gave me lots of problems with my last couple of tanks but it seems to be made for this thing.
I like the notch coil and was surprised it works in TC. Very thirsty but it gave me a nic headache so I know it's going to good use.
What an absolute PIA to fill, and I have to fill it a lot. For now I've found an old MBV bottle and needle tip cap to use but I dread trying to carry that around.
I got rid of the installed cotton. That stuff was a mess. I put my own cotton in but have since switched to rayon. Rayon gave me lots of problems with my last couple of tanks but it seems to be made for this thing.
I like the notch coil and was surprised it works in TC. Very thirsty but it gave me a nic headache so I know it's going to good use.
What an absolute PIA to fill, and I have to fill it a lot. For now I've found an old MBV bottle and needle tip cap to use but I dread trying to carry that around.
Hello all I tried to read through the thread but couldnt locate anything on my "issue" so thought I would pose it. I picked up a Theorem a few weeks back and love it. I ditched the notch coil right away in favor of a clapton but plan to throw in the notch to give it a run as well as a simple kanthal build as I dont like the watts needed for clapton builds if I can avoid it.
My only complaints I have so far are: 1) the drip tip, I hate it but I actually dont have any other 510s so need to pick one up. I prefer wider drip tips. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. 2) the juice capacity. I knew this going in. Just wish it was more but it is what it is and while it can be a nuisance it isnt a show stopper for me by any stretch (hoping the Avocado 24 may perform as well as the Theorem and I will get one of those as well). 3) The issue that I dont think there is a solution for, and once again not a show stopper, changing juices. So far the only way that I have determined would be taking the atomizer off and fully disassembling. When I first got it I put a juice in and by the end of the night was topping it off with a different juice. My flavors got all sorts of confusing. Is there an easier way? At this point, as mentioned, I just disassemble, change juice, and rewick. With something like my crown I can just drain it, rinse out the top and after a few puffs the new flavor becomes dominant. Lately the Theorem has just been my "go to" juice, the juice I am not going to get tired of.
My only complaints I have so far are: 1) the drip tip, I hate it but I actually dont have any other 510s so need to pick one up. I prefer wider drip tips. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. 2) the juice capacity. I knew this going in. Just wish it was more but it is what it is and while it can be a nuisance it isnt a show stopper for me by any stretch (hoping the Avocado 24 may perform as well as the Theorem and I will get one of those as well). 3) The issue that I dont think there is a solution for, and once again not a show stopper, changing juices. So far the only way that I have determined would be taking the atomizer off and fully disassembling. When I first got it I put a juice in and by the end of the night was topping it off with a different juice. My flavors got all sorts of confusing. Is there an easier way? At this point, as mentioned, I just disassemble, change juice, and rewick. With something like my crown I can just drain it, rinse out the top and after a few puffs the new flavor becomes dominant. Lately the Theorem has just been my "go to" juice, the juice I am not going to get tired of.
For the DT, you will either need a larger O-ring, or use some dental floss behind it to make it larger. Standard DT's are loose in it. As for a wider one, it's not going to do much for the flow, you are still going to be limited to the hole in the top cap. I hated the DT because it was so short and let too much air in around my lips.
No, the only way to change juices is to disassemble it and wash it out.
I don't know about the Avocado myself, but I'm wanting to do some more research on it as I'm thinking about one as well.
I personally didn't like the Avocado. I'm a fan of wicks dropping down into a tank, but since I dont use much airflow, the air stream path is weak and doesn't carry the vapor. Also, disassembly for cleaning is more difficult than the Theorem.
Use a rubberized material to grip the tank of the Theorem. Its best to keep on a mod, twist and pull the tank to remove. Use some VG or eliquid on the rings before reinstalling the tank.
Use a rubberized material to grip the tank of the Theorem. Its best to keep on a mod, twist and pull the tank to remove. Use some VG or eliquid on the rings before reinstalling the tank.
So, if I am following you correctly, you are saying leave it on the mod when going to empty? Any reason that would be preferred as opposed to taking it off to disassemble? I am hesitant to leave it on considering any juice that may still be in the tank would/could get on the mod.
Well i got this tank a few days ago. Hadn't really been interested in it when I first heard about it because I already had an avocado and it just seemed like everyone was trying to rip off of geek vape. Anyways I'm glad I got it. It's an avocado done smart... for the most part.
Drip tip is garbage. To short and gets way to hot. Positive post is stupid. There is no reason for the gap that I can see. Nobody is going to be fitting super large crazy coils in this so there's no need for the extra coil lead space in the positive post. That is one reason why I never got the indestructible. The afc to me is stupid. Could have done a less convoluted top airflow and still have great flavor. The glass/steel tank is very hard to see the juice level. It does look good but it is pretty hard to see where your at. Glass is pretty hard to remove but then again that's kinda the point. So far I have only been using the notch coil as I am quite impressed with it. At first I thought it was going to just be another vaping gimmick but I am quite liking these so far. I'm sure once I pop in a fused clapton or something it will be even better but for now I have no complaints to the coil except that it does seem a little flimsy. Wicking is absolutely phenomenal. I don't even mess with making sure theres a air hole between the cotton and glass, it just works no matter what and the ease of wicking is much improved over the avocado. Also filling is alot easier that the avocado unless using a single coil in the avocado at which point I would say it's the same. I really hate the fact that the post screws are Allen keys. I always seem to strip them out and knowing that they're are Chinese mystery metal it will definitely strip out. I don't know why there is any need for anything other than Phillips head screws. Good purchase and everyone has Phillips heads. Oh and I know some of you have had issues with leaking.... I don't know how. I have left mine upside down, in my pocket, laying on its side, no issues.
Overall I would say this is a pretty good tank. Has some issues that should have been resolved before being released but overall very nice especially for flavor. I would say if your on the fence about getting one, just get one they're 20 bucks.
Drip tip is garbage. To short and gets way to hot. Positive post is stupid. There is no reason for the gap that I can see. Nobody is going to be fitting super large crazy coils in this so there's no need for the extra coil lead space in the positive post. That is one reason why I never got the indestructible. The afc to me is stupid. Could have done a less convoluted top airflow and still have great flavor. The glass/steel tank is very hard to see the juice level. It does look good but it is pretty hard to see where your at. Glass is pretty hard to remove but then again that's kinda the point. So far I have only been using the notch coil as I am quite impressed with it. At first I thought it was going to just be another vaping gimmick but I am quite liking these so far. I'm sure once I pop in a fused clapton or something it will be even better but for now I have no complaints to the coil except that it does seem a little flimsy. Wicking is absolutely phenomenal. I don't even mess with making sure theres a air hole between the cotton and glass, it just works no matter what and the ease of wicking is much improved over the avocado. Also filling is alot easier that the avocado unless using a single coil in the avocado at which point I would say it's the same. I really hate the fact that the post screws are Allen keys. I always seem to strip them out and knowing that they're are Chinese mystery metal it will definitely strip out. I don't know why there is any need for anything other than Phillips head screws. Good purchase and everyone has Phillips heads. Oh and I know some of you have had issues with leaking.... I don't know how. I have left mine upside down, in my pocket, laying on its side, no issues.
Overall I would say this is a pretty good tank. Has some issues that should have been resolved before being released but overall very nice especially for flavor. I would say if your on the fence about getting one, just get one they're 20 bucks.
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It may be too early for you to say but which do you prefer between the Avocado and the Theorem? The new Avocado 24 has piqued my interest for the juice capacity and the improvements on refilling compared to the 22 but wondering if I will be as happy with it as I am the Theorem. What drew me to the Theorem was everyone raving about the flavor and now has me looking at a lot of other RTA/Genny style tanks.
For flavor it is hard for me to decide which I like better. I mean the avocado shines in dual coil. I even have a simple 26g 7 wrap 3mm i.d. dual coil in the avocado and the flavor is awesome. The afc in the avocado is also more natural. I personally don't like the velocity style build deck though so that's a negative for the avocado. Plus I think the metal quality in the avocado is less as I have stripped all the post screws it came with. Of course the avocado 24 does have the slide lever filling or whatever to make it easier which will be nice but so far I think overall I like the theorem best overall. Afc and drip tip is better on avocado plus it comes with a "chuff" cap, however wicking and looks go to the theorem, flavors about the same with the avocado maybe taking the edge as I get amazing flavor from a very simple build. The theorem is probably better on juice consumption too but not by much. I personally like the theorem better but it is a hard choice to make.
Thanks for the detailed write up. I was trying to decide between getting another Theorem or holding out and getting the Avocado 24. Right now I am leaning towards giving the 24 a try and from your write up it seems like that isnt a bad choice at all. In terms of your cons for the Theorem those are my thoughts as well. Number one on my list is going to get a new drip tip. In terms of the AFC ring it will be nice to have more flexibility in dialing things in with the Avocado but, for me at least, I am not one to tinker around once I figure out what I prefer, so even with the Theorem once I got it where I liked I havent messed with it since. Once again thanks for the comparison.
You'll need to use a syringe to empty it, or pull the glass off over a sink. Do not try to pull the glass off with a full tank on a regulated mod.
I didnt even think of using a syringe, I feel like an idiot. I have only emptied it out once and when I did I tried to vape it down as far as possible minimize any juice loss. After that I just chose a flavor that I knew I wouldnt get tired of and is always in my rotation.
Yeah they're both good tanks. It's like if one has a pro for something it's a con on the other. They need to make a baby, call it the theoracado and be done with it. As for getting both of them. They're cheap enough so why not.
I tried leaving it on the mod to stabilize it when trying to take the tank off. Not a good idea, it's on there so tight that you risk damaging the 510 on your mod.
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