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Heartsdelight

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I emailed angelcigs Friday afternoon asking for an exact ship date. They just won't email me back. Horrible customer service with this company. I don't understand why they dont have someone from their US warehouse answering emails from the US. i get half English/half gobbledegook emails from them. Sigh.

At least my new minikin is coming tomorrow. That will help assuage my need for new vapemail for a few days lol
Better to email them for example in the morning. When they arrive to work at around 9:30p - 10 ish pm our time it's morning for them.
 

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After using this for a day and a half...flavor is good, wicks well, but...at 40 watts, the thing gets hot. Lots of spit back in the tip. Guess I will try at lower watts, but then the density of the vapor drops as well.
Is that with the notch coil? If it is, did you rewick it?
 
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My preorder from VapeNW still hasn't shipped :( . I ordered one that is in stock at OriginVape Thanks to the community for posting in-stocks. Was going to buy one for a friend anyways...
Vapenw said they "should have them in stock Monday". I ordered from origin vape yesterday and got my tracking number today.
 
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I'm thinking how, if possible, I could get a notch coil in my Serpent. The legs are pre-shaped for a straight-in horizontal build. Or some other tank. Has anyone given that thought?

I just got a Bachelor and I'm wondering if this coil would fit, as the tank comes with a huge coil that many have been taking out because it takes too long to heat up/cool off. Hmm...

If anyone has a way to test this theory, please chime in! Still on the fence about picking up a Theorem, due to it being press fit (every tank must be portable for me).
 
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Better to email them for example in the morning. When they arrive to work at around 9:30p - 10 ish pm our time it's morning for them.

Yeah, I knew it was gonna take a few days to get them to actually refund my money. I sent an email yesterday and the response I got was "We will ship them this week, are you sure you don't want to wait a little longer?" even after I specifically said in my email "Please refund my money TODAY. Do not email me back asking me if I want a store credit, because I don't. I want my money back and I want it back as soon as you see this email." And of course they email me again asking me to wait, which will take another 24 hours for them to respond to my email and I'm sick of waiting on this company. They said they will not be shipping until April 29th, so I've had it with this company. When someone says give me my money back, then give them their freakin' money back! I'm calling my credit card company right now to do a charge-back and then I'm ordering from Origin Vape. I guarantee I will get my Theorem from Origin before Angel Cigs even ships.

Lesson learned, there is no point in messing with pre-order (this was my first time.) And Angelcigs is a terrible company that I will NEVER order from again.
 

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Vapenw said they "should have them in stock Monday". I ordered from origin vape yesterday and got my tracking number today.

they are really quick. ordered mine from them on Friday afternoon and it's being delivered today. I live outside the philly area, so I'm sure that helped coming from NY.
 
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To those of you that have received the theorem in - did it require a lot of cleaning to removing machining residue? did the notch coils require and cleaning at all - curious as they come with cotton already loaded.

I'll tell you when I get it this afternoon; however, I'm cleaning it regardless. I had already planned on changing out the cotton with my own.
 
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they are really quick. ordered mine from them on Friday afternoon and it's being delivered today. I live outside the philly area, so I'm sure that helped coming from NY.
Same here, ordered Friday, and just now dropped off. I went picked it up from home, gave it a quick soapy water bath. So far the wick is breaking in, but this is a flavor machine and no real harsh flavors from left over machining solution. I've had some atties that were hell to clean.

I think the single air flow from above the coil is rather cool, with the single from the block rather hot. For a good mix I'll put the dual airflow ring in and leave it half open on both.
 

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I received my Wismec Theorem from VapeSourcing today. I was interested in this atomizer because it was inexpensive and offered a unique design. Although I'm intrigued by the notch coils they just don't seem compatible with my style of vaping. I mostly use 18350 AW IMR batteries in mechanical mods or in a Provari Mini. The .25ohm notch coil is simply too low of a resistance for me to safely use with an 18350 battery or for a Provari to fire. I have a bunch on 18650 batteries that I could use, but .25ohm is simply too low for me. I have an IPV D2, but with no step down, I'm afraid that the vape will be too hot for my liking.

So I figured that I would simply build my own coils for the Theorem around 1.2ohms which is what I typically use. However, one thing that I really don't like about the post design is that it seems that you need really long coil legs if you want a single coil to be centered with both wick ends dropped into the tank. The notch coil avoids this by using welded nickel legs, so I figured that I would try to do the same.

I have a lot of experience building coils for submersible atomizers like the Killer, Diver, and Sophia that use CE2 ceramics where you're supposed to use legs of non-resistance wire. I have a wire welder that I built that I use to weld nickel to Kanthal coils so I decided to make a coil for the Theorem in this way. The notch coil has an inner diameter of 5.5mm. The closest rod that I could find was a screwdriver with a diameter of 4.2mm, so I decided to use it. I made a spaced coil using 27awg Kanthal and welded 32awg Nickel legs to it. I was concerned that 27awg Kanthal would require too much ramp up time and I exceeded my target resistance a bit, so I'm going to make another coil tonight, but I've included pictures of my current coil below for your viewing pleasure.

My coils:
3895A2E4-FA02-43E7-A611-A39B74D2B1C0_zpse2eiwiyj.jpg


My build:
2CAE274E-5213-44C8-9B6D-0C2D335C8A56_zpsdfhrqlwb.jpg


My Theorem:
a52f737e-2f9c-4401-a79a-75b4ffdda965_zpsqnb9xzqd.jpg
 

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I received my Wismec Theorem from VapeSourcing today. I was interested in this atomizer because it was inexpensive and offered a unique design. Although I'm intrigued by the notch coils they just don't seem compatible with my style of vaping. I mostly use 18350 AW IMR batteries in mechanical mods or in a Provari Mini. The .25ohm notch coil is simply too low of a resistance for me to safely use with an 18350 battery or for a Provari to fire. I have a bunch on 18650 batteries that I could use, but .25ohm is simply too low for me. I have an IPV D2, but with no step down, I'm afraid that the vape will be too hot for my liking.

So I figured that I would simply build my own coils for the Theorem around 1.2ohms which is what I typically use. However, one thing that I really don't like about the post design is that it seems that you need really long coil legs if you want a single coil to be centered with both wick ends dropped into the tank. The notch coil avoids this by using welded nickel legs, so I figured that I would try to do the same.

I have a lot of experience building coils for submersible atomizers like the Killer, Diver, and Sophia that use CE2 ceramics where you're supposed to use legs of non-resistance wire. I have a wire welder that I built that I use to weld nickel to Kanthal coils so I decided to make a coil for the Theorem in this way. The notch coil has an inner diameter of 5.5mm. The closest rod that I could find was a screwdriver with a diameter of 4.2mm, so I decided to use it. I made a spaced coil using 27awg Kanthal and welded 32awg Nickel legs to it. I was concerned that 27awg Kanthal would require too much ramp up time and I exceeded my target resistance a bit, so I'm going to make another coil tonight, but I've included pictures of my current coil below for your viewing pleasure.

My coils:
3895A2E4-FA02-43E7-A611-A39B74D2B1C0_zpse2eiwiyj.jpg


My build:
2CAE274E-5213-44C8-9B6D-0C2D335C8A56_zpsdfhrqlwb.jpg


My Theorem:
a52f737e-2f9c-4401-a79a-75b4ffdda965_zpsqnb9xzqd.jpg
Wow! So sophisticated! Kanthal coil with nickel legs!
 
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Well, the bank already put my money back, so they can deal with Angelcigs instead of me. Already got my order in with Origin Vape and it should be here in a few days. I wish I would have canceled last week but I wanted to give Angelcigs a chance. They really dropped the ball on this if you ask me.

After reading everyone's reviews here so far, I can't wait to get it. Will update when I get it on Wednesday or Thursday. Thanks to everyone who's posted in this thread so far... Especially to those that mentioned Origin Vape. Looks like a great company!
 

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Does anyone know how to decipher the size of the o rings? I measured with a simple wooden ruler & got these dimensions:
18mm OD x 17mm ID x 1mm thickness.

I want to order red & black o rings from Fasttech I guess, don't know where else to buy from.

Searching on Fasttech I can't find the size I measured. Probably cos I'm measuring wrong. Anyone more experienced can help?
 
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Does anyone know how to decipher the size of the o rings? I measured with a simple wooden ruler & got these dimensions:
18mm OD x 17mm ID x 1mm thickness.

I want to order red & black o rings from Fasttech I guess, don't know where else to buy from.

Searching on Fasttech I can't find the size I measured. Probably cos I'm measuring wrong. Anyone more experienced can help?

From what I've dealt with in the past when trying to order o-rings, there is no standard for measuring. Especially if ordering from fastech. I know this isn't the answer you wanted. But you may want to try ordering a variety of o-rings that are supposed to fit a 22mm atomizer. Then see what works best when you get it. The problem with getting the right fit is that even the tiniest difference in the thickness of the o-ring can be the difference between your top being too loose or even too snug.

If you have extra o-rings laying around like a lot of us probably do, you could try to see if any of those fit, and then order replacements for that exact model's o-ring on eBay.
 
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Same here, ordered Friday, and just now dropped off. I went picked it up from home, gave it a quick soapy water bath. So far the wick is breaking in, but this is a flavor machine and no real harsh flavors from left over machining solution. I've had some atties that were hell to clean.

I think the single air flow from above the coil is rather cool, with the single from the block rather hot. For a good mix I'll put the dual airflow ring in and leave it half open on both.

It's here, but I haven't had a chance to set it up. Doing that right now!! I plan on doing the same with the air flow: using dual ring and opening half way.
 

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Mine arrived today too from Eciggity. As far as I can tell it's spotless, I'm pretty sure I could juice it up and go straight out of the box. But I'll still give it a bath later tonight, since I'm gonna rewick with rayon before I try it anyway. Super excited.
 
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