This bothered me...

[PRIMER]

From a thread that was closed while I was at work:

Originally Posted by PRIMER

Even though I'm clean and sober, I'm still one of the "bob marley crowd" at heart...
I will respect the rules of this board, but have problems shunning "those *other* vapers".
It's only my $0.02
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Thats called a dry drunk.Thats NOT being sober......sober is having clarity of mind, body and spirit unfettered by dependencies.

Maintaining a self-image thats skewed by those same dependencies is a sure way to find yourself addicted to them again.

Sobriety isnt dependent on time as much as it is on recognizing this and working to effect a change in every aspect of your life.

In short, if you view yourself as an alcoholic, or a smoker , or a drug addict then you'll always be one....just one who abstains and is most likely miserable in the process.

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You don't know me.
You don't know what I've been through, or what changes I have made.
Do not judge me.

 

[shatner]

Thread was closed for a reason. If you have beef, take it to PM.

mod: Clean up, Isle 13

 

[Kopfstimmen]

Hey, I have no problems with anyone. No one is shunning anyone, but that rule is very clear. Don't talk about stuff that makes vaping look bad. I've posted my own alcohol and vaping related link. It got deleted too, although it didn't violate the rules. It bothered me, too, but I asked a mod, she explained, and I accepted.

By the way, "Even though I'm clean and sober, I'm still one of the "bob marley crowd" at heart..." did not fit in well with the rest of your post. Just saying before cleanup on aisle 13 takes place.

 

[PRIMER]

Just venting, sore spot.
Clean up, aisle 13...

 

[the_vape_nerd]

that thread was probably closed because it got all personal not because of subject matter

i do recall seeing cardiwen in there though explaining ecf's reasoning which i think is great...so many forums just make decisions without telling people why

 

[patkin]

I read that thread as it was taking place and it made me sad in so many ways. Whenever anyone says "don't judge me" they're saying they've been shamed in some way. I've seen far, far, too much shaming done especially by fans of this or that vendor. One recent one is a good example. Someone felt mistreated by a vendor and said so in a non-offensive way only to be singled out by a replyer as "raging" (certainly wasn't... just being honest)... not the usual "venting" choice of words by a seasoned poster. Connotations can shame. I would think all these x-smokers would know that feeling all too well and avoid doing it to others. I've since learned that many of these "fanboys" are on the take essentially... getting free stuff from the vendor they defend... but evenso, there's a way to do that without the use of shaming to destroy a fellow member's credebility which is what its designed for just as the "dry drunk" comments were.

 

[Orobas]

starting another thread about a closed thread, classy.

sage.

 

[classwife]

You had your say.

Now, when threads are closed, they are closed. That does not mean to open another and continue.

Thread closed

Thank you