This is not good (my two cents)

[stevejo]

Where I live in ND the public smoking ban isnt all-inclusive -- any place that does more than 50% of its revenue through liquor/beer can still have a smoking environment. I still find that walking around the bar with my super-mini gets some stares, especially when I take a drag and shove it back in its spot in my hatband.

I have a few times whipped it out in a restaurant or something, always after double-checking with my server first. Generally I get questions and sales rather than disapproval, but there are always gonna be some that think our little devices are evil cause they associate them with smoking.

 

[mr_vapor]

I think about it like this...

its totally legal to blow bubbles. however if you go into a nice restaurant and start blowing bubbles at your table it might be kind of weird and i think the management would have the right to ask you to stop or leave. Its the same thing with e-smoking. sure its legal, technically you are not smoking but at the same time its not always appropriate to do.

i think this will change in time (people who see you e-smoking will know just exactly what the hell you are doing, understand it does not smell and is not dangerous to them). i feel what we need is a celebrity. yes that is right a well known celebrity in the USA to begin e-smoking. it would bring it into the public spotlight. if dennis leary started e-smoking and e-smoked during interviews, explained the device and explained he has stopped analogs as a result and is feeling healthier, it does not smell, is not bad for you, etc. it would really make news, people would see it than when you go to e-smoke inside a wall-mart or whatever most people know what you are doing. also e-cig buissness would go through the roof as a result and than more people would be doing it anyway so you would no longer feel like it is wierd or out of place. just some thought...

 

[LaceyUnderall]

i feel what we need is a celebrity. yes that is right a well known celebrity in the USA to begin e-smoking. it would bring it into the public spotlight.

leonardo dicaprio has been seen with one on his bicycle... so if anyone has a brother who has a friend who has a cousin who knows leo's bike shop guy... let him know that we need him to tell leo we need him!

 

[carlwep]

I think it's best to use analog etiquitte and ask those around you if they mind before you vape.

Couldnt say it better myself.

 

[ramblingrose]

After seeing so much of the Holier Than Thou attitude to e-cigs, it was nice to see a positive first reaction from an ex-smoker on an unrelated forum (Cruise Critic)

"Just saw a reference to e-cigarettes on another board. Having never heard of such a thing, I googled "electronic cigarette" and discovered a truly fascinating product. It claims to give smokers the same level of satisfaction with absolutely no smoke or odor involved. Someone reported on the other thread that they really loved theirs and used it on airplanes and in other "No Smoking" areas. They're kinda pricey, but then, so are cigarettes these days!

I'm a recovering smoker (several years now) and understand how strong the need is. I'm glad to see an alternative for them.

What will they think of next! E-cocktails?"

But I think I'll pass on the e-cocktail.

 

[sMuCk_fOg]

What will they think of next! E-cocktails?"

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[towardsthelight]

I think it's best to use analog etiquitte and ask those around you if they mind before you vape.

A very simple solution which could alleviate any conflict and at the same time allow us the opportunity to educate others. My Dad doesn't allow smoking in his house but on my last visit, I showed my new e-cig to him & my older sister and they were so happy for me that I found this once I explained the concept! I no longer have to go outside to 'smoke' when I visit.

 

[tescela]

I think about it like this...

its totally legal to blow bubbles. however if you go into a nice restaurant and start blowing bubbles at your table it might be kind of weird and i think the management would have the right to ask you to stop or leave. Its the same thing with e-smoking. sure its legal, technically you are not smoking but at the same time its not always appropriate to do.

i think this will change in time (people who see you e-smoking will know just exactly what the hell you are doing, understand it does not smell and is not dangerous to them). i feel what we need is a celebrity. yes that is right a well known celebrity in the USA to begin e-smoking. it would bring it into the public spotlight. if dennis leary started e-smoking and e-smoked during interviews, explained the device and explained he has stopped analogs as a result and is feeling healthier, it does not smell, is not bad for you, etc. it would really make news, people would see it than when you go to e-smoke inside a wall-mart or whatever most people know what you are doing. also e-cig buissness would go through the roof as a result and than more people would be doing it anyway so you would no longer feel like it is wierd or out of place. just some thought...

Wow, Denis Leary switching to e-cigarettes would be a game-changer! He would be on The Daily Show soon after that, and then the mass conversation by smokers would commence!

 

[popsec]

I am very brazen about vaping. If I'm going to vape at the bar, I make sure the bartender knows what it is and how it works. Vaping in public is a way to educate people and it is only through education that we can gain acceptance.

Amen to that. The first few weeks of vaping were spent trying to hide my vaping or only going to "smoking" areas. How do we establish it as a non-smoking device if we only use it in smoking allowed areas?

 

[Reign]

the Anti-everything crowd doesnt care about our feelings or what might upset us...other than attempting to upset us...So why should I care about some guy who isn't going to change his mind regardless?

You can usually tell who they are by the first words out of the persons mouth....approach me with a little respect and Ill give you any information and all the respect in the world back. Approach me with rudeness and malintent, Ill either ignore you, toss a nasty comment back or hit you depending on how my day has gone to that point and if a cop is nearby

The anti-everything crowd has beaten the smoker because they were louder than the smoker. Vapers need to be heard over these inconsiderate a-holes instead of allowing them to shut us down again.

I used to manage a bar and would never immediately jump to a conclusion and create a scene as alot of times, it is not what it seems.

I will vape anywhere I please whenever I please...I wont ask because it is not wrong of me to use my device. If I am asked to leave, then so be it. Ill happily leave without any loud or obnoxious argument. I just wont hide something due to other peoples ignorance.

Anyways, I rarely have people say much to me about it. I get more attention from people because my wife is so much better looking than me.

Just my two cents.

 

[greyeyes]

Hubby and I were at a restaurant having breakfast last weekend. I pulled my PV out after I finished eating and started vaping. There was a lady sitting next to us that had a nasal cannula on and her portable oxygen tank sitting next to her. I heard her say to one of the other people at her table "that woman is smoking in here!" The man sitting closest to me looked and said "oh, that's one of those electronic cigarettes. She's not smoking a real one." The lady with the O2 just said "ok" and that was the end of their conversation about my vaping.

 

[Stric9]

I act as if it's perfectly normal and don't ask or try to hide it... If called on the e-cig I'm quick to point out that the laws were enacted to protect the public from second hand smoke and the device I'm using does not produce smoke.
In short, THEY DON'T HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON.
I really don't mind getting in their face about it either...

Respects

 

[kathyst]

Jim, I tend to agree with you about not vaping in no-smoking places, for the most part.

Well, I haven't even gotten my first e-cig yet -- it's in the mail -- but I'm so excited to get it. I feel, though, at this point, that I won't want to vape anyplace public except where I would smoke. Such as out by the espresso cart on my work breaks. Also, I like the camaraderie with smokers, always have, so I smoke where smoking is accepted. (Not exactly acceptable, but accepted!) It's just been so many years that we can't smoke inside, etc., that I'm so used to it. Now, as posted in the travel/airport threads, I can see that I would want to try it out when having to spend dumb hours stuck in an airport, but very discreetly. Otherwise, I can wait.

I feel I've always been a considerate smoker, even outside -- and it bugs me so much, the self-righteous attitude of anti-smokers. But still, until e-cigs are more well known, I'm just going to test the waters cautiously. I'm glad you brought this up. For now, for myself, I'm more happy about still being able to "smoke" while quitting smoking -- this is a huge big wonderful thing -- than I am about being able to "smoke" in public.

I'm so glad for this forum. The e-cig thing is something I just latched onto (what took me so long?) and I'm all jazzed.

kathy

 

[happily]

I act as if it's perfectly normal and don't ask or try to hide it... If called on the e-cig I'm quick to point out that the laws were enacted to protect the public from second hand smoke and the device I'm using does not produce smoke.
In short, THEY DON'T HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON.
I really don't mind getting in their face about it either...

Respects

If you going around getting in people's face with it. It WILL BE BANNED. It has already happened in several cities. The idea of this thread was asking people to have tact and common sense. For the good of e-smoking if we all want to be smart asses. Then we will have no leg to stand on and further complications with buying and owning these devices.

 

[Stric9]

If you going around getting in people's face with it. It WILL BE BANNED. It has already happened in several cities. The idea of this thread was asking people to have tact and common sense. For the good of e-smoking if we all want to be smart asses. Then we will have no leg to stand on and further complications with buying and owning these devices.

So you think that being polite has worked so far? We both know it has not.
First the excuse was "second hand smoke".
Now it's that it might "look cool to kids" or it's "bad for you".
The bottom line is that some people empower themselves by dictating what others can and can't do. Hiding it or being submissive when called out automatically implies that you also feel that you're doing something wrong. Those types of people are going to try to stop it no matter how you act. Because THEY think you shouldn't be doing it.
I use mine right out in the open... I don't stand up and wave it about or announce that I'm doing it or make a big deal about it. I just do it. And if someone challenges me, I shut their a** down (right in front of everyone else).
So you my friend can hide and act guilty about using one if YOU feel that's what YOU need to do. I will use mine openly and act as if I'm doing nothing wrong because I'M NOT.

 

[Reign]

So you think that being polite has worked so far? We both know it has not.
First the excuse was "second hand smoke".
Now it's that it might "look cool to kids" or it's "bad for you".
The bottom line is that some people empower themselves by dictating what others can and can't do. Hiding it or being submissive when called out automatically implies that you also feel that you're doing something wrong. Those types of people are going to try to stop it no matter how you act. Because THEY think you shouldn't be doing it.
I use mine right out in the open... I don't stand up and wave it about or announce that I'm doing it or make a big deal about it. I just do it. And if someone challenges me, I shut their a** down (right in front of everyone else).
So you my friend can hide and act guilty about using one if YOU feel that's what YOU need to do. I will use mine openly and act as if I'm doing nothing wrong because I'M NOT.

/agree, its not against the law so be open about it.

 

[Surf Monkey]

I think the answer is somewhere in the middle. Be polite, but be open too. There's no reason to be a jerk about e-smoking. But there's also no reason to be cowed into not doing it when it's not likely to bother anyone else.

For example: I wouldn't appreciate someone blowing vapor up in the air in front of me in a movie theater. By the same token, I wouldn't give a crap if someone was e-smoking in the lobby of a movie theater. It's about being respectful but assertive.

 

[Reign]

Being open and not hiding doesn't mean you are being a jerk. I am awfully respectful as long as I am approached with respect. If you are not, then you get treated accordingly.

 

[Jim Davis]

I think the answer is somewhere in the middle. Be polite, but be open too. There's no reason to be a jerk about e-smoking. But there's also no reason to be cowed into not doing it when it's not likely to bother anyone else.

For example: I wouldn't appreciate someone blowing vapor up in the air in front of me in a movie theater. By the same token, I wouldn't give a crap if someone was e-smoking in the lobby of a movie theater. It's about being respectful but assertive.

I usually stick to the smoking areas when possible. I was in the Ft. Lauderdale airport the other day for 5 hours. Got breakfast in a restaurant there. I sat in a corner table (not many people around), got my breakfast, and started my lap top. The waitress brought my food, and said she was going to go out for a smoke. I showed her my e-cig. She knew all about it and said it was OK to use it. I blew the vapor down under the table, and no one noticed, except for two Ft. Lauderdale cops who sat down next to me. They just nodded and smiled. But after that, I still didn't flaunt it.

 

[HELIOS]

Anyone I spend any amount of time around knows that I vape. My reactions are positive 95% of the time... public opinion will vary no matter how discrete you may be. The FDA will have their hands on these devices soon and it will take quite a-lot of effort to sway their regulatory authority. I would'nt stress out about it though, if they go after anyone it will be the suppliers not everyone using them. Only time will tell