Throat hit
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I use the zero nic e-liquid and depending on which flavor and brand, I either get a throat hit or I don't--its that simple for me. I see no difference with which one of my e-cigs I use be it the penstyle or the 901. That holds true for the vapor production as well unless the atomizer is on its way out.
I see your point. However, as a confirmed "mouther", I'm wondering what hardware is the champ at producing the hottest vapor.
I think it has something to do with the heat of the vapor.
I have an NPRO NJOY and man that thing almost hurts it hits the back of your throat so hard.
I also have the JANTY DURA and the hotter smoke doesn't hurt at all it is smooth in.
What makes me believe it is heat is the exhale out always leaves more of a tingle on the janty than the inhale in.
I would also have to give some credit to the size of the cartridge as well. The more liquid in it it seems the more chance it has to produce denser vapor. Thus creating a harsher hit.
BTW I dunno why but I have a serious bias against the expression throat hit, kinda like my hatred for the word epic... lol
Oh well
I shall use my word HARSH instead!
I have an NPRO NJOY and man that thing almost hurts it hits the back of your throat so hard.
I also have the JANTY DURA and the hotter smoke doesn't hurt at all it is smooth in.
What makes me believe it is heat is the exhale out always leaves more of a tingle on the janty than the inhale in.
I would also have to give some credit to the size of the cartridge as well. The more liquid in it it seems the more chance it has to produce denser vapor. Thus creating a harsher hit.
BTW I dunno why but I have a serious bias against the expression throat hit, kinda like my hatred for the word epic... lol
Oh well
I shall use my word HARSH instead!
Probably the Screwdriver. The longer you hold the button, the hotter it gets.
BTW I dunno why but I have a serious bias against the expression throat hit, kinda like my hatred for the word epic... lol
Oh well
Yea, I don't like it when people say "epic" either. "Hella" is another one.
I see a huge difference in throat hit between using a fresh battery/USB passthrough and using a battery that is wearing down.
There is also a huge difference when an atomizer is on its way out.
Some liquids of the same nic strength give different amounts of throat hit, with all the above being equal. I don't know that it is due to any specific additives or ph level so I voted Other.
I am pretty sure that nic level has a minimal effect, because I can get the same hit from different levels of nic with everything else being equal.
There is also a huge difference when an atomizer is on its way out.
Some liquids of the same nic strength give different amounts of throat hit, with all the above being equal. I don't know that it is due to any specific additives or ph level so I voted Other.
I am pretty sure that nic level has a minimal effect, because I can get the same hit from different levels of nic with everything else being equal.
For the Wikipedia article I wrote "a physical sensation similar to that of inhaled tobacco smoke". Harsh, hit, whatever, it's whatever makes you feel like you're smoking. That's the whole point of doing this versus other nicotine replacement methods.
BTW I dunno why but I have a serious bias against the expression throat hit, kinda like my hatred for the word epic... lol
Oh well
I agree with you. When people started talking about throat hit I asumed they meant what I call the nicotine kick; a tingly, tight feeling at the back of my throat, right where the vapor stream hits it on the way down. Also, but a bit less, on the back of the tongue and the back of the roof of the mouth.
I eventually figured out that all they meant by it was the harshness. ANd I was flabbergasted, and am still somewhat bemused, that some people actually WANT that. For me, getting away from that rough, harsh, unpleasant feeling was part of why I like e-cigs better than the real thing.
BTW, Kitty, if you want the tongue smiley, you should use the lower case "p," like so:
Yea, I don't like it when people say "epic" either. "Hella" is another one.
For me it's "awesome." People, Awesome does not mean "cool," "great," or whatever you think it does. Awesome means awe-some; having the quality of filling you with AWE. Leaving you awe-struck. Jaw dropping, eyes popping, struck dumb! That's awesome! Don't dilute my word, man!
From a diluted e liquid (30% e liquid 60% VG 10%water) i was not getting a throat hit as i did before ...i took out the cartridge and driped straight 18mg e liquid ...and would'nt you know it....i got a throat hit.
So i conclude ...with the same battery and attomizer...the liquid contents made a difference in the throat hit.
So i conclude ...with the same battery and attomizer...the liquid contents made a difference in the throat hit.
have you tried either of those e-cigs with a high nic juice? from my personal experience, the higher the nic content the harsher the throat hit.
try some 36mg juice and direct drip.......im sure it will make your throat feel like its being rubbed down with sand paper if using either of the e-cigs you mention!
as atomisers are only designed to get hot enough to vapourise the liquid i think you will struggle to find any e-cig that will replicate the same amount of heat that a burning cigarette would produce
simply because e-liquid is heated, tobacco is burnt.
as i said, try the hi nic 36mg juice. it wont make a differnce to the "heat" but its definitely harsh!
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I've used low and high nic versions of the same flavour of the same brand and there's been no difference in harshness. It's additives like pepper that make different eliquids seem harsher. If you want really harsh, try Janty heavy shag/cigar, the highest nic is 16mg but it packs a hit like nothing else I've tried, it makes my eyes water.
This might be of interest on this thread:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...equests/3204-ph-values-harshness-eliquid.html
There is an optimum pH level to cause 'throat burning' apparently. Doctor Loi measured pH values of 7.8-8.5 from some eliquids.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...equests/3204-ph-values-harshness-eliquid.html
There is an optimum pH level to cause 'throat burning' apparently. Doctor Loi measured pH values of 7.8-8.5 from some eliquids.
I'd like to second something someone else said in another thread:
I draw a distinction between the sharp, back-of-the-throat feeling and the deeper "lung punch" that you feel in your chest.
It's the latter feeling that I'm interested in recreating with e-cigs, and probably the strongest psychological habit for me to overcome in weening myself off e-cigs.
I suspect that the qualities that make for a good throat hit are a tad different than what goes into a lung punch.
I draw a distinction between the sharp, back-of-the-throat feeling and the deeper "lung punch" that you feel in your chest.
It's the latter feeling that I'm interested in recreating with e-cigs, and probably the strongest psychological habit for me to overcome in weening myself off e-cigs.
I suspect that the qualities that make for a good throat hit are a tad different than what goes into a lung punch.
Thanks for the thoughtful response, Igetcha, I'll give higher nic levels a try. (And Kate, I'll also try different flavors.)
I've read on here that the nicotine strength isn't a contributing factor to the throat hit value, however this isn't consistent with my experience. I use a DSE901 and have noticed with the low cartridge there is little to no throat hit (if there is it is in like the first drag), the mediums give more of a throat hit and for a longer duration (until about halfway into the cart), and high gives the best throat hit (nearly all the way through the cart and still giving a strong throat hit). Now it may be related to the vapor produced, because I noticed with the high there is more vapor even near the end of the cart, whereas with the low the amount of vapor peters out significantly as you continue to smoke the cart, same with mediums. Is there another reason that I am missing, cause I'd rather smoke less nicotine, but don't want to sacrifice the throat hit?
yep, high nic juice definitely gives me a stronger, harsher throat hit! for example several weeks ago i recieved a sample of the cash cola which was low nic..........no throat hit at all. i then purchased the high nic cash cola and voila......throat hit! both produce the same amount of vapour but the higher nic content does the business for me.
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