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Tips on carrying around and using your juicebox properly

Discussion in 'Juice Box Fans' started by Kismayaz, Feb 14, 2010.

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  1. NCC

    NCC Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 14, 2010
    Fla Panhandle, USA
    Yes, I'm aware of that fact. Which is why I'm wondering.

    And, as far as patience is concerned ... I waited 14 months between placing an order and taking delivery, on my car. I am patient, if nothing else. The waiting would be easier if there was some communication. Particularly a response to a direct question regarding my order.

    It would be comforting to see posts from people who have recently taken delivery on their Juice Box.

    EDIT: Having said that, I will make a point of posting the fact that I have received mine when I receive it.
     
  2. YePsTeR

    YePsTeR Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 4, 2010
    Northern Michigan
    this works great!!!!! Thanks!!!!!:d:d:d:d:d
     
  3. VictoryNotVengence

    VictoryNotVengence Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 27, 2009
    USA
    how many hits on the juicebox before you need to push the bottle?
     
  4. sl2222

    sl2222 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 10, 2009
    NC-USA
    Let me start by saying I'm totally ignorant about this stuff butt ref 'WhatAClumsyGirl' says...

    It sounds to me like the atty is getting flooded by probably pushing too hard on the bottle and getting too much juice up there...duh

    Now when WhatAClumsyGirl loosens the bottle cap slightly, what's happening is, it allows the pressure to be relieved and the liquid flows back down into the bottle and clearing the atty out (I think).

    Soooo...if that's the case couldn't some kind of check valve be put in there somewhere with a button to push and hold (not necessarily electronic) that would open the valve and allow the juice to flow back down?
    Actually now that I think about it, maybe it could be incorporated into the switch for the atty. Press the button to heat up the atty and simultaneously open the valve to drain any excess liquid off at the same time.

    Am I crazy or does this sound doable?

     
  5. highping

    highping Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    Aug 29, 2009
    Columbus, OH
    Well, I don't have my JB yet so I can't test it, but the first thing I'm going to try (after measuring the ohms of the atty) is to cover the air intake hole when I press the bottle. My thinking is that this is going to push the juice up into the atty, but then (with no vent hole available) the vacuum in the bottle is going to suck all the juice back out of the atty instead of waiting for it to drain.
    That's all just theory at this point, of course (since I don't have my JB yet), but I am building a 510 'bottom feeder' mod that is going to work on that same principle, so we'll see, but it should be virtually "flood-proof".

    Any of you that already have a JB try that??
     
  6. JDSupreme

    JDSupreme Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 20, 2009
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Sounds logical to me. Im finally REALLY starting to understand all the little in and outs of my JB....and I don't even have it yet :)
     
  7. Kismayaz

    Kismayaz Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 29, 2009
    Central FL
    That's a good suggestion, highping, and it may very well work. Here's an easier method, which I have posted on another thread to help someone out, but it definitely belongs here.

    As soon as you get the burnt atty taste, hold the button down and blow into the hole on the side of the atty. If you don't want to take the cover off you can blow into the hole where the bottle is, it works the same. Do this for a while to burn off all the excess juice. Now, and here's the tricky part.

    If you have the bottle filled more than halfway with juice, then BARELY pump the bottle. As soon as you feel the plastic indent, let go. You are now ready to vape, and it will not be flooded. I promise. Repeat this step until...

    If The bottle is less than half full of juice, When you get to this point, you have to push it in a little more. If you look inside the bottle, you can see the plastic tube inside. Push on the bottle until you see the juice go upwards. You will not have to push the bottle no more than halfway. Once you see juice go up, let go. You are now ready to vape, and it will not be flooded. I promise. Repeat this step until...

    If You are almost out of juice, At this point, it's pretty much the same as last time, except you have to push even harder. Watch the tube carefully, and as soon as you get juice to go up the tube, let go. You are now ready to vape, and it will not be flooded. I promise. Repeat this step until...

    If You are out of juice, now make sure you rinse out your bottle before refilling to get all of the atty crud out from the bottom. This is key to making the most out of the life of your atomizer.

    I have been doing this for a while now, and have had absolutely zero flooding issues and always a great vape. This mixed with holding the button down in between drags until you get your fix makes this the best vapor, flavor, and TH producing PV I've ever used.
     
  8. Stormynights

    Stormynights Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 31, 2009
    Bristow, Ok.
    Great tip. Holding the button down makes a big difference. It really hit like 6V. Unbelievable. Thanks for the tip my friend. :):):)
     
  9. clyde2801

    clyde2801 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Let me know how it goes on the 510 concept. Petercros's 4081 juice pipe (box) mod version 2 worked without having to pump the bottle most of the time after the tubing was shortened and all but one loop removed. Just the act of inhaling on the mouthpiece seemed to draw liquid up to the atty. I'm guessing that if the bottle was placed directly underneath the atty with no loops or bends this would be improved. The 510 is my favorite, and I'm wondering if it would have the same function, or if it is somehow limited to the rn4081 setup.

    Here's my review on the mkII tardis...

    http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/electronic-cigarette-reviews/74043-petercros-mini-juice-box-mkii-review.html#post1096245
     
  10. highping

    highping Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    Aug 29, 2009
    Columbus, OH
  11. Elendil

    Elendil Assclown Exterminator Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Mar 28, 2009
    IL USA
    Nice highping. You know they say the necessity is the mother of............something....
     
  12. clyde2801

    clyde2801 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nice and simple. But, does it draw liquid when you inhale, or do you have to pump it?
     
  13. Mosin

    Mosin Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 7, 2009
    Highland, CA
    I commented briefly on the JB draw/technique in the JB Updade thread, but thought it would be more appropriate here. Basically, the slower/lighter I draw, the more vapor I get. If you hit the JB like a regular ecig atty/carto, much less vapor is produced than when taking a slow, long mouth drag....which will tear your head off @ 24mg. I had to lower the nic to 6mg and now I'm in the range. So, anyone not getting the vapor they imagined (or As Seen on the YouTubes) might want to try slowing down the draw to a very light inhale. IMHO this enables a hotter burn in the atty, which equals more vapor.
     
  14. miss MiA

    miss MiA Super Member ECF Veteran

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    Nov 12, 2009
    Chicago, IL
    Sounds similar to the manual vs. auto batt technique thing, with the particular KR8s I have anyway. I'd used manuals from the start, and like others, when I tried my first auto without having heard the slow 'n steady draw advice first, the net flavor, vapor, anything at all seemed laughable. Couldn't even believe quite a few people preferred them, much less managed to drop analogs via them. Then when I tried it as you mention, bingo!! (Especially with direct inhale vs. two-step mouth to lungs, tho I can't do it that way continuously, very high impact... so on JB maybe it would be nuclear! But hey some might like that!) I still prefer manuals, but autos are of course nice for hands-free needs.

    If a too-fast draw is the or a big part of the actual problem for any JB folks who left theirs in purgatory, I hope they'll hear tell so they can try again!
     
  15. Mosin

    Mosin Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 7, 2009
    Highland, CA
    The manual vs. auto batt analogy is right on. Even with manuals I give the button a primer tap and draw slowly for maximum vapor... my JB seems to work the same way.

    And speaking of nuclear, be careful with your JB/nic intake people! Especially when you first get your new toy and are trying it out. I over-nic'ed last night for the first time in the 3+ months I've been vaping, and it was not pretty (total nausea, sweats, and then a nice hurl to round out the festivities). Totally my fault... not only did I chain vape the thing whilst getting the hang of it, but I misjudged the strength of ther nic juice I was using. I thought it was 6MG, but forgot I had mixed that 6mg with 24mg a week or so earlier... so I was basically chain vaping ~18mg on the JB, and the JB won. :oops:
     
  16. miss MiA

    miss MiA Super Member ECF Veteran

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    Nov 12, 2009
    Chicago, IL
    Thank you!! Not glad you went through that but it did finally impress upon me that I should take the advice about lowering nic for the JB seriously!! 8-o Glad you hung in there and are still enjoying the festivities! :)
     
  17. Luckydog

    Luckydog New Member

    Jan 26, 2010
    San Jose
    Following the advice in this thread, I'm getting more consistent vape from my JB after playing around with it for a few days.

    At first, I thought that there was something wrong with it. I was hardly getting any vapor and inconsistent throat hit. I could get tons of vapor if I removed the bottle but when I screwed the bottle back on, nothing. By trial and error, I ended up flooding the atomizer several times, making things even worse.

    So, what I learned here is to take lighter and longer hits, and most importantly, pressing down the button for a second or two before taking a hit. Hold the button down until you can hear a sizzle from the atty before hitting it. Now the JB is working for me and all is good:)
     
  18. Greyz

    Greyz Senior Member

    Jan 4, 2010
    Athens Ga
    Ok. Just received my Juicebox Today! Attempting to get the hang of it.. :)!! My Problem seems a little different than the usual that I'm seeing. Mine tastes burnt and dry even when I pump it quite a bit. Maybe the atty breaking in? Its producing vapor... Just crazy harsh! I cant even inhale it. I'm using Blue Cheesecake from Tasty vapor that I've cut with VG(100% USP)good VG. Afraid of flooding it so not pumping too much but starting to think I need to really pump this thing to get the burnt taste gone. Any tips from a JB pro out there on this one?
     
  19. Greyz

    Greyz Senior Member

    Jan 4, 2010
    Athens Ga
    Actually now that I read back over posts I do see where this is what others are experiencing, it all just makes more sense when your the one working at it... gonna keep working at it...
     
  20. miss MiA

    miss MiA Super Member ECF Veteran

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    Nov 12, 2009
    Chicago, IL
    ...I'm definitely not a JB expert, don't even have mine yet, but be sure you saw Kismayaz' (sp?) detailed instructions, the ones that even came with a 'promise' they will work! :) Also, I did read here and elsewhere that vaping it upside down (held at kind of a pipe-like angle), not only works well including to help prevent flooding, but creates almost a self-feeding action too...
     
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