Right. I'm using all the tips here. I'm still having a problem with extremely harsh vape when its producing and or flooding=not much going on... Don't get me wrong I'm not discouraged yet. I know there is a break in time and learning curve. It has improved very slightly. I guess I'm mainly posting to confirm that this is the norm when it's new and that it is going to improve with time to a point of great tasting non burnt vape. lol