You can't have a contact coil without the protective oxide layer. Well you can but it will short.
Titanium wires
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Who said it is shorting? Because of the jumping ohms? No, it is Ti, this is how it rolls.
The easiest solution I've been able to come up with is to double up and fold the wire in half before coiling a standard micro coil making sure to get it as snug as possible. Once you've finished wrapping, clip it in half at the crease and pull the two coils apart. If you're using the 30ga I posted earlier that'd leave an even gap of approx 0.255mm between each coil preventing any potential shorts.
I didn't think you were, I was just putting it out there.
About the only way to get a nice 30+ gauge contact coil is through tension winding, not really sure how this is going to work on unoxidized Ti wire though.
Yeps, not willing/able to try it on the premades as i fear they would split and too short to tension them properly.
Thank you I have been trying to remember what that type of wrapping was called since Imeo started this thread. Now that is is way late I can finally post the video Imeo asked to be posted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktOED8LSUEY&feature=player_embedded
It definitely gives off no metallic taste. Rayon just arrived today, can't wait to try it with that.
titanium wires have no taste and thats one more very serious reason for using it. If a wire gives taste its obvious that something is going wrong
Well actually people have been eating off iron pans for a long time and they're still fine. These pans leave a distinct metallic taste for those that can notice it.
Of course these aren't mutually exclusive; metallic taste in our vapour could still indicate something wrong happening at the coil.
Of course these aren't mutually exclusive; metallic taste in our vapour could still indicate something wrong happening at the coil.
Hi Friends,
i hope you are all well.
Please do me the favor and stop fighting about wires!!!
I read all the posts and i thought i was in the kinder garden and little boys fight because they think they have the best toy
The title of this Thread is e-smokeguru titanium ready wires!
not titanium in spools, not don’t burn the wires, not kanthal, not nichrome !!!
If you want to talk about all other stuff, then Imeo have to open a new thread.
I ask Imeo to open this thread for the ready wires so you can write about your experience about these new ready wires.
Imeo and all other people here inside, i don’t think it is a good idea to write here inside ECF what is good and bad, even I believe you and the most of the posts are logical because this forum is actually searched from people who want to destroy the e-cigs and i mean this serious!!!
I have contact Dr. Farsalinos how much the cost is to make all the Lab tests for all wires, if we do those tests i think then we have all the answers we want and then we can choose the best or the most harmful.
Please don’t write anymore about all this stuff if you don’t 100 % sure with lab results or if you are not a science of this stuff.
And please don’t tell me about google and generally internet research because it is a lot of misinformation.
Don’t forget we are all in the same boat!!!
Imeo please clear the thread and if you want take all the posts from this thread and make a new one and move them there, let us talk about only about the new wires.
Sorry for my bad English but I think you all understand what I mean
Thank you
Vassilis
i hope you are all well.
Please do me the favor and stop fighting about wires!!!
I read all the posts and i thought i was in the kinder garden and little boys fight because they think they have the best toy
The title of this Thread is e-smokeguru titanium ready wires!
not titanium in spools, not don’t burn the wires, not kanthal, not nichrome !!!
If you want to talk about all other stuff, then Imeo have to open a new thread.
I ask Imeo to open this thread for the ready wires so you can write about your experience about these new ready wires.
Imeo and all other people here inside, i don’t think it is a good idea to write here inside ECF what is good and bad, even I believe you and the most of the posts are logical because this forum is actually searched from people who want to destroy the e-cigs and i mean this serious!!!
I have contact Dr. Farsalinos how much the cost is to make all the Lab tests for all wires, if we do those tests i think then we have all the answers we want and then we can choose the best or the most harmful.
Please don’t write anymore about all this stuff if you don’t 100 % sure with lab results or if you are not a science of this stuff.
And please don’t tell me about google and generally internet research because it is a lot of misinformation.
Don’t forget we are all in the same boat!!!
Imeo please clear the thread and if you want take all the posts from this thread and make a new one and move them there, let us talk about only about the new wires.
Sorry for my bad English but I think you all understand what I mean
Thank you
Vassilis
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I talked to Vasilis via phone, and for the best interest of e-cig business I will stop talking anymore about oxidised mesh and wires and I suggest to all of you to do the same here.
I dont see a reason to clean the thread because we will miss a lot of info. Better let it run but in a different way. Users must only talk about their experience with esg titanium wires and nothing else.
I dont see a reason to clean the thread because we will miss a lot of info. Better let it run but in a different way. Users must only talk about their experience with esg titanium wires and nothing else.
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Well actually the title of this thread is "Titanium wires and Titanium ready wires". If you want to make this all about ESG wires and put guidelines on what we're allowed to talk about then go ahead we can take our discussion elsewhere.
Arguments can bring about trolling and lots of angry accusations but it can also lead into healthy discussions; I think we're all a bit wiser having gone through this thread. And if you ever get some crowdfunding project for lab tests I'm sure most of us participating in this discussion would be happy to contribute.
It would also be nice to learn when and what gauge of spooled Ti wires ESG will be getting, what grade it is and its purity. Otherwise we can start looking elsewhere. Until then I'm back to Kanthal.
Arguments can bring about trolling and lots of angry accusations but it can also lead into healthy discussions; I think we're all a bit wiser having gone through this thread. And if you ever get some crowdfunding project for lab tests I'm sure most of us participating in this discussion would be happy to contribute.
It would also be nice to learn when and what gauge of spooled Ti wires ESG will be getting, what grade it is and its purity. Otherwise we can start looking elsewhere. Until then I'm back to Kanthal.
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Yes.
Ti has a positive temperature coefficient. Make a coil out of Ti (even just a single loop) with no possibility of a short and put it on a regulated mod (such as a DNA) that shows resistance in real time while firing and you will see the resistance increase with the the temperature of the coil. I've seen the resistance change as much as 2:1 while firing a coil that's dry. Of course it reverts back to its original resistance when it cools back down to ambient temperature.
However, if the resistance is unstable at a steady temperature, such as when you're testing it with a meter that doesn't use enough power to make any noticeable heat in the coil, then that IS a sign than you have shorts in your coil.
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Convenient because you can use the NR for the poles and use the R part only around the wick. And of course they heat up much much faster than Kanthalas Capatin showed us.
I had a problem with a couple breaking at the junction while trying to make the coil, maybe a thicker Ti wire would help.
I wasn't testing with a meter. I was testing with provari's ohm tester, which throws in a low current but that produces vapor so apparently enough to make it rise from 1.5 to 2.5 in the reading. Don't forget i was testing with a thin wire 0.18mm, it behaves differently than what you tested since it heats up really fast. So I know I didn't have a short but what i had is the jumping of Ti due to increase in heat. It even happened when the wire was all extended and no possibility of short.
Anyway i tried the Ti with 0.5 ohms yesterday. I will compile a post about it.
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