Titanium wires

[AdamAnd]

Ι finally forgot to see the video while waiting for upload Adam lol

really nice one buddy, thanks for posting it

Imeo thank you just a quick question want to verify first before I answer when people heat their wires with a torch it is considered the same as dry burning causing oxidizing of the wire that is what i think so this practice is not the best thing to do? I was asked why i do not torch my wires and tighten them before i build them on my device this is my answer.

 

[subver]

I've been trying to refrain from heating my coils red hot, but when I first set a coil up I still heat it very briefly to squeeze the coils together one final time and it heats evenly. Do you guys just omit this step now? Do the coils "settle" into place and just start firing normally without dry-firing the coil and squeezing it together? I've been curious about that part. Thanks!

 

[imeothanasis]

Adam, oxidising metals is a really bad practice that someone started on e-cig world but he was totally clueless of the dangerous of this procedure. Of course we dont torch wires for any reason because we oxidise them like when we dry burn them. Wire has to go up to its working temperature and better less than this.

Wires work as they are. Except of dangerous, oxidising is totally useless too.

Sub, the procedure is simple as it always was. We make the coil and we vape.

 

[AdamAnd]

I understand Imeo thanks Just wanted to know that they where one in the same "no dry burning" "no torching" and clean your wire if you feel that there is machine oil or other contamination on them. Thank You

 

[invisiblehand13]

Ugh...this may have been posted somewhere in here already but I am not sifting through 73 pages to try and find it, I want to use this for my DNA40 device mainly because after years of working with kanthal and nichrome...the nickel wire is driving me crazy and I have decided that I HATE it...now that being said as long as I make sure to buy pure titanium grade 1 I should be fine for this? I already dug into using the DNA40 with titanium for temp settings and I just have to set my device for half of what I usually set it to (420 so now...210, easy enough lol) is that all I need to know? Then as a safety measure build a sample coil and dry fire it to make sure it does not turn white? those two things all I need to know here?

 

[imeothanasis]

dna doesnt work with titanium invisible and when it works it is very very inaccurate. Better vape on a vw device. You will have more control

 

[FogNL]

You're right Imeo, it does work with Ti but very inaccurate. Which is logical as the board calculates with the temp vs. resistance curve from Nickel.

 

[imeothanasis]

exactly Fog. But unfortunately DNA isnt accurate at all even with nickel wire. Imagine with another wire.

 

[rockstarr]

exactly Fog. But unfortunately DNA isnt accurate at all even with nickel wire. Imagine with another wire.

DNA is accurate at all? Where'd you get this info? Mine works great with a Nickle build, actually best vape I've ever had. I would bet money that my wick and coil are cleaner and less gunky than those not using a temp controlled device. I'm curious why you say it's innacurate?

 

[rockstarr]

dna doesnt work with titanium invisible and when it works it is very very inaccurate. Better vape on a vw device. You will have more control

You state "DNA doesn't work with titanium" and then state "WHEN it works with titanium"? DNA is a VW device. I'm really confused by your statements....

 

[rockstarr]

its only days away Angel.

How many more days Imeo?

 

[Ariel_MX]

I think what Imeo means is that the temperature control on DNA 40 does not function properly when using titanium wire as coil, as it was designed / programmed to detect the curve of resistance variance according to the temperature of nickel 200 wire.

For sure he has done some temperature tests with the DNA 40 using nickel wire, maybe it is not that accurate as VIR is, if I understood fine, VIR works at 1,000 cycles per second (it calculates the temperature each 1/1000 of a second) , I remember that VIR is on the +5°C / -5°C range of precision.

 

[steliosss]

DNA is accurate at all? Where'd you get this info? Mine works great with a Nickle build, actually best vape I've ever had. I would bet money that my wick and coil are cleaner and less gunky than those not using a temp controlled device. I'm curious why you say it's innacurate?

This is a diagram from Dr. Farsalinos showing dna40 after being setted in 390F (199 Celcious). It goes up to 180C.
That's inaccurate

 

[rockstarr]

exactly Fog. But unfortunately DNA isnt accurate at all even with nickel wire. Imagine with another wire.

I'm sorry Ariel but he clearly says: " but unfotunatly DNA isn't accurate at all even with NICKLE wire." FYI, I have two DNA 40's and completly understand their intended use with Nickle wire as that's what I'm currently using.

 

[steliosss]

I'm sorry Ariel but he clearly says: " but unfotunatly DNA isn't accurate at all even with NICKLE wire." FYI, I have two DNA 40's and completly understand their intended use with Nickle wire as that's what I'm currently using.

I think you got your answer in my previous post

 

[rockstarr]

This is a diagram from Dr. Farsalinos showing dna40 after being setted in 390F (199 Celcious). It goes up to 180C.
That's inaccurate

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Evolv isn't calling it temp control, it's a temp limit, that he admits is calculated mathematically and is off somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 degrees F. No burnt cotton here, just vape nirvana anyway, if VIR ever gets to the consumer market I'm interested.

 

[steliosss]

Ok... thanks for stopping by

 

[rockstarr]

Ok... thanks for stopping by

Thanks buddy, I hope I didn't offend you, im just asking question based on what I'm reading..did I ask something I shouldn't have?

 

[soulseek]

This is a diagram from Dr. Farsalinos showing dna40 after being setted in 390F (199 Celcious). It goes up to 180C.
That's inaccurate

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Evolv isn't calling it temp control, it's a temp limit, that he admits is calculated mathematically and is off somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 degrees F. No burnt cotton here, just vape nirvana anyway, if VIR ever gets to the consumer market I'm interested.

Having some form of temperature control is better than nothing. This is indeed a decent first good step for them and I assume the next version will be better. The problem with this one as you can see from the graph is that it's 20 degrees off from 200, which is quite big imho; I assume it gets worse at higher temperatures and of course with anything other than nickel wire.

 

[steliosss]

Thanks buddy, I hope I didn't offend you, im just asking question based on what I'm reading..did I ask something I shouldn't have?

Offend me??
No no my friend. Everything's ok!!!
Every polite question have to be followed by a polite answer... and I think we're both in to this