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I'm new here. Was a stinky user, then quit in Iraq, then was on and off for a long time. Got into Blu when it was Neu, but with their inconsistency I have found myself here, studying the ways of the vape masters.

I watched a ton of Rip Tripper. Got my shopping cart online with some goodies, cant wait to receive my first order. A simple Ego 1100 starter, ordered a few mini protanks and also a plumeveil rda to toy with.
No mod on order yet because I have more to learn and I don't want to blow my face off. Open to recommendations for a good mod. I need to get an OHM meter and order some AW 18650's, I need wire to, and cotton.

Still messing with Blu until my order gets here, but I look forward to more flavor and more draw ability.

Great to be here Guys and Gals
 

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Hi,

I'm new here. Was a stinky user, then quit in Iraq, then was on and off for a long time. Got into Blu when it was Neu, but with their inconsistency I have found myself here, studying the ways of the vape masters.

I watched a ton of Rip Tripper. Got my shopping cart online with some goodies, cant wait to receive my first order. A simple Ego 1100 starter, ordered a few mini protanks and also a plumeveil RDA to toy with.
No Mod on order yet because I have more to learn and I don't want to blow my face off. Open to recommendations for a good Mod. I need to get an OHM meter and order some AW 18650's, I need wire to, and cotton.

Still messing with Blu until my order gets here, but I look forward to more flavor and more draw ability.

Great to be here Guys and Gals

Welcome! You will defiantly enjoy the ego way over the blu! (IMO)

RDAs on an ego isn't common. Especially dual coil drippers like the Plumveil.

For beginners I say start on an MVP2. Seems like you are set on rebuilding though, which isn't a bad thing! The MVP would be enough to get you started, but it is really limited for RBAs. I'm hesitant to recommend any other APV to beginners because there is a huge learning curve! I'd say focus on your ego setups and set the Plumveil aside for later.

Before you buy anything post your thoughts here. Chances are someone has had it and give you good feed back or can recommend something better. A quick note about batteries, make sure you get good quality batteries from a reputable source. When you get there follow up here before you buy to keep from wasting money on low quality fakes (or worse blow your face off) and such :)

You are right to not want to blow your face off. And it's good that you know that that is a possibility when not taking care!





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Thanks for the replies Guys. I am still studying for a Mod purchase, as I do want to get into coiling and RDA's. I was looking at the Vamo V5 with vv/vw. Really looking forward to my first eGo. I will post more when I get my drop!

For an RDA, you will want to go with a mechanical instead of a vv/vw device. They have recently come devices that can run really high wattages though. On the cheaper end I really like my Smoktech Magneto. It ran me about 40 bucks, and I have never had any issues with it. It ts telescopic, and really solid, but it is a bit long.
 
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I started on green smoke then moved to ego and now I am using a SID vw. I liked the greens but cartridges and recharging where not fun. I liked the ego but got a sid for $20 grabbed some samsung batteries and a xtar charger. I am really glad I did this as the performance is awesome but overall pretty cheap to run still. Don't forget juice choice is important too. I got some crappy horrible juices. Searched around a bit more and got some liquids that made it very enjoyable. Since I got the SID I have 0 analogs.
 

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Vamo is a good first time purchase, and I've used my Vamo V5 quite a bit. They're a good low priced starter kit. Once you get your ego, you'll notice a big difference over the Blu's. Rebuilding on an Ego battery is not really recommended. I'll post some quick tip information on batteries to explain a bit.

Ecigarettes are, of course, battery oriented. Most of the vapor comes from what the battery can supply matched with what coil you build. The more power you supply to the heating element in your Ecigarette (AKA coil), the faster it will boil (vaporize) the E-liquid, which produces steam (vapor). If you look at your Blu ecig, you have a battery and a cartrige. the cartrige has a tiny coil.. of course, that's to match the tiny battery. Of course, you know tha even that tiny coil drains that battery fairly quickly, so the next best step is to simply go with a bigger battery.

The next logical size up is the Ego. This is where I consider a true starter kit. The larger format can store approximately 5 times the ammount of a "cigalike" like a Blu. It's just simply larger. Both the blu and Ego's use Lithium batteries, which can output about 4.2 volts. Usually, they regulate it down to 3.7 volts to extend battery life as well as protect the battery from being drained too fast. Not only is there the voltage, there is something called Amps. Think of Voltage as speed, and amps as quantity. Both the Ego and the Blu ecigs supply power at the same voltage, but the ego's can supply a bit more power overall. So, they can support larger coils even if they are using the same voltage. larger coils means more vapor, and a better experience overall.

The reason rebuildables aren't very popular with the Ego's, is even though Ego's can support a higher amperage limit, they still don't provide enough for a true rebuildable. I have a variable voltage ego, and I do have a rebuildable for it. But, I have to keep in mind that I am very limited in the builds, and I'm stuck using 32 or 34 gauge wires.. which is a pretty thin wire. If you try to use anything larger, the ego's just don't supply enough aperage to power those coils. That's not to say it isn't possible, but it's really not very feasable. I would stick with clearomizers, and stick with 1.6 ohm resistant coils and above.

Now, the next step above the Ego's, is the Variable voltage/wattage mods like the Provari, Vamo, and Itaste (to name a few). Those use even larger sized batteries, and are regulated. Those are regulated, and they themselves have their limits. The vamo, as an example, have a 5 amp limit. Ego's usually have a 2-3 amp limit, and I don't know what blu's are, but I bet it's quite small. 5 amps is a good starting limit for a single coil rebuildable. It also widens the options for the type of wire you can use as well. Things like the Kayfun can be used on these devices easily. However, you have to stay at 1.2 ohms or above with these. They are good starter units, and may be your all day vape. There's no need to go any higher, and they take a wide range of batteries. Recently though, they've come out with more powerfull variable voltage devices. The DNA 30 devices comes to mind, and the DNA 30 can supply 10 amps of power. These start to need specialized batteries capable of a higher discharge rate. Some devices come with built in batteries, but others require special batteries capable of the high drain. This is also where variable voltage can support more than one coil and work well.

Well, if you were to get rid of all electronics, and connect the coil straight to the battery, you'll have what's called a mechanical mod. With these, the coil determins how many amps are being drawn directly from the battery. This is when rebuilding is definately wanted, since the build determines how much power is being used. The mods are usually simple, and usually have locking mechanisms to prevent it from firing when it's put on a table or in your pocket. Without limitations, you have the full capability of the battery you are using, and some batteries have up to a 30 amp limit. This is also where it can become dangerous if you don't know what you're using, since trying to draw too much power can over-work the battery causing it to vent hot gasses.

your Plumeveil I would only recommend with either a DNA 30 or a mechanical mod. If you want to go on the safe side, I would suggest getting a DNA 30. If you get a DNA 30 that uses a battery, I would suggest getting the Sony VTC4 or VTC5's, since they are one of the safest and best batteries on the market. I do not suggest getting a mechanical mod until you are familliar with rebuilding coils. I can go into detail about coil building, but I believe I've been long winded enough already. :)

Anyways, good luck, and welcome to the forums. Be sure to ask many questions... the worst question is the one never asked.
 

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For an RDA, you will want to go with a mechanical instead of a vv/vw device, although they have recently come devices that can run really high wattages. On the cheaper end I really like my Smoktech Magneto. It ran me about 40 bucks, and I have never had any issues with it. It ts telescopic, and really solid.
I would say a Mech is not really something suited for beginners for MANY reasons. If I was going to suggest 1 MOD for you to get(if you won a free one of your choice today....) I would say the MVP v2. I say this one because it lasts, it has the protection you should have while learning but also has more than enough power to be useful even after you find yourself ready to start making coils. I think the biggest thing many over look when talking to new vapers in regards to RDA and RTA is the fact "they" make the coils. There's no need to go Mech when they can start building coils in the 1.? range and use it on a device that will protect them and it's self from errors.
 

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I would say a Mech is not really something suited for beginners for MANY reasons. If I was going to suggest 1 MOD for you to get(if you won a free one of your choice today....) I would say the MVP v2. I say this one because it lasts, it has the protection you should have while learning but also has more than enough power to be useful even after you find yourself ready to start making coils. I think the biggest thing many over look when talking to new vapers in regards to RDA and RTA is the fact "they" make the coils. There's no need to go Mech when they can start building coils in the 1.? range and use it on a device that will protect them and it's self from errors.
You're right. The only reason I even mentioned the mech was he was talking about an RDA he had ordered. The MVP2 is a great device, I've only used it with clearos though.
 

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If you are looking at a vamo, Spring for something like a dna clone or the IPV 50w... With the vamo I don't think you get on board charging, so you need to buy a few GOOD batteries and A GOOD charger (assuming 2 batteries at $10 each and a $20 charger, tack Ann extra 40 onto the cost of the vamo). At that price you should be able to justify a higher wattage/amp mod and 1 vtc5 that you can charge and Vape. I have the dna clone made by cloupor (I think elev8 has then for 70) and I use it with a few rbas (tanks and drippers) built around 0.7 ohms (drippers) and 1.4 ohms (tank). You don't need a charger with these mods because they have on board charging.
I use a mech, but as a previous poster said, you should get a regulated mod first (apv).
The mvp2 is easily half the cost of the dna clone or IPV (yihi board) but you also loose a lot of the types of coils you can build. I don't think the mvp is a bad mod, just not ideal for rbas imo. Limited to 1.4 or so to 3.
These apvs will give you a safety net when you start out rebuilding, and I don't think a mech is good for traveling for more than half a day... You have to bring extra batteries and a battery tester with you at that point... An apv will tell you the status of your battery at least, and if you are worried about a build you can throw some wick and wire in your pocket and build on device as it also has a built in ohm checker.
I was drawn to tube mods at first, but decided that wasn't for me as they are not very pocket friendly due to having a large control head that is the site of an 18350 battery! My SiD was 8" tall with my Kayfun on it.... You'd have to have some deep pockets to get that bad boy in there... Broke several Drip tips because it hung out of my pocket... And the mod fell out a few times... They also fall over and roll off the table pretty easily as most of them have low profile buttons that don't really stop them from rolling.

All imo, but I hope it helps!
 
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The ipv2 50 is a excellent choice and you can grow into this mod. It sub ohms down to .2, has touch fire and regular fire. It's well made with the new technology in the yihi sx330 v2 chip. This mod will NOT disappoint! !! I have one and absolutely love it! You won't be sorry if you choose this mod!!

take some time and watch Phil Busardos review on it.... he gave it a thumbs down for several issues...
 

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take some time and watch Phil Busardos review on it.... he gave it a thumbs down for several issues...

His may have just been a one off... It concerns ,e all the same, but a ton of people have been picking these up and that's the first I've heard of the issues. I admit I haven't looked at them all that closely, but if it was a big issue it seems like we would hear about it more.

I guess if you get one, get it from a source that accepts returns for lemons.


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take some time and watch Phil Busardos review on it.... he gave it a thumbs down for several issues...

I own the ipv2 50 and I think his review is off. It's one of the BEST units I've ever had!! Zero issues or problems . If I had issues or problems I wouldn't recommend it. But I've been using it for a while now and it's Wonderful. My rdas sit flush, I get a consistent vape, it's well made, zero problems. That's my review... if I had trouble it would be dirrerent, but it's been a amazing mod and I stand behind that. My unit performs flawlessly... I guess anyone can be a critic but honestly, it's been a great unit. Look at other people's reviews. Most have been spot on and it's highly recommended. I have ZERO issues with mine. I love it. Worth every bit of the 110. Dollars. That's just my EXPERIENCE with this mod..It's been great for me.
 

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Yes, the hannah mods DNA 30 is a good mod, and a very popular one. It was, to my knowlege, one of the first 30 Watt mods to come out. When they made it, it seems they made it right the first time. Since then, there have been several replicas of it, some good, some bad.

They have recently been making mods that go beyond the 30w range, but those are new to the market, and in my opinion, aren't truely "field tested" yet. If I had to give a suggestion, the Hana modz would be my first pick... but not the lowest on the budget.

Have fun, and vape on. When you start building coils, keep us informed. I
 
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