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I was using Blu for 8 months until my battery started dying and just bought my first pair of Kangertech Evod batteries yesterday. Understanding everyone has personal preference, but at what point did you feel the need to upgrade to VV or did you just skip right to a mod. What factors contributed?

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djsvapour

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The factors that made me upgrade was still smoking.

Those plastic sticks didn't stop the cravings.

I could have stopped on simple eGo batteries, but I wanted long-life from batteries (3,400 gives me that) and then got addicted to new shiny toys.

It's stopped now. If I keep on the forum and never look at online shops, I am cured. :)
 

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the first doodoo vape stick i used was a Logic Ecig. cartridge style it was horrible. i still smoked stinkies, so that wasn't gonna cut it. then i went through a few ego's cause they kept breaking on me and throughout those ego's i still smoked. so i think finally upgrading to a mod was the fact that i kept smoking and breaking those dang egos haha. now i have an SVD which is well made and it would hurt anything that it fell on rather then breaking. and like djsvapour said. "shiny toys"
 

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Welcome to the ECF. More power was the main thing for me. The eGo batteries just didn't have the output to satisfy me, and the cigalikes definitely didn't. Lower resistance atties in the 1.7ohm range helped a lot, but the choices were limited. Once I got into the larger VV devices, there was no turning back.
 
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I was using Blu for 8 months until my battery started dying and just bought my first pair of Kangertech Evod batteries yesterday. Understanding everyone has personal preference, but at what point did you feel the need to upgrade to VV or did you just skip right to a Mod. What factors contributed?

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I used ego style batteries for I think two weeks, and then went and got an MVP, because I was tired of the egos running out constantly. That's when i learned that the mods make for a better vape.
 

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I am the opposite of most people here.

Like most I started with cigarette look-alikes.

However, after quickly giving up on that I went straight to an Innokin iTaste SVD, a massive mod that looks like Luke Skywalker's lightsaber. Used that for a few months until it broke, and then decided to take a step backwards to a Halo Triton. Same style as the eGo, but the batteries last much longer with the same mAh rating, and their quality control is excellent. I've been totally happy with it ever since. Got a VV battery for it, and that's all I need to keep me happy.

I'll probably eventually replace my broken SVD with a Vamo V5 which uses the same batteries and clearos that I got for the SVD, but for now I'm quite content with the Triton and unlike most people here, I'm not looking for anything better.
 
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I tried V2's successfully for a week, during which I did a $h!+ ton of research, and ended up with 2 Vision Spinners an Evod and two CE5's. They were what made it stick. That and the option to use whatever flavors I wanted. Now I use mechanicals almost exclusively, because Im completely ensconced in the hobby aspect of vaping, and was in search of the best performance according to my liking. That said, just this morning I filled up my first evod, and stuck it on one of my first Spinners. It still vapes great. If I was forced to use that setup long term, I would still be happy. Not as happy as I am now, but still happy nonetheless.
 

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My moment was having to change the Blu batteries every 20 mins. I do kinda miss the flavor of the Johnson Creek juice even tho there was hardly any throat hit. It had a nice subtle undertone. The juice I have is very bold, so I'll likely be constantly searching for my fave blend


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You can use the Blu carts on a 510 threaded device, it's actually not a bad vape if you do, I just wouldn't do it regularly as they're so expensive. I had a pack left, and I use them once in a while on a Spinner or my MVP, because...why not? Just keep the volts low, they burn pretty fast the closer you get to 4volts.
 

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I didn't start with a Blu. I started with an E-Power 14650 which is comparable to Joyetech eGo 1000mAh battery but with a removable battery. So, the E-Power was a tube mod equivalent of a Joye eGo single voltage.

The first rig worked very well for me. I was a pack and a half a day smoker. I used refillable 510 Smok cartomizers and bottled juice, quit smoking and used the E-Power every day for 18 months. It never did break.

I hit the one year cigarette-free mark and bought another tube mod at that point. I picked up a VV/VW Sigelei Zmax V3 Telescopic and upgraded to IBTanked carto tanks. After 18 months with single voltage I was ready for VW and the carto tank. Nearly a year later with the Sigelei/IBTank I'm still loving the vapor.
 

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i can only give you my personal experience. I have a Vamo, a Spinner, and multiple USB passthrough VVs and a Kick for various devices. Other than for having them for backups, it was all wasted money. I still prefer my Joye Ego C upgraded regulars and passthroughs at home and Erolls when out. A lot depends on your juice. I prefer my ADVs at 3.3 usual or 3.7 rarely with a clearo or, of course, with my Eroll. I was, basically, talked into spending money on VV with so many recommending them without explaining that there may be absolutely no need for one. Just because they like higher voltage vaping, not everyone does and, especially noob vapers, should try the voltage that vaping began with first to save money getting started. If those voltages are, then, just not doing it for them, there is time to try the more expensive VVs and save the standard setups for backup.
 
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I vaped eGo with Boge cartos for a couple of years and still smoked a cigarette after a meal and with coffee in the morning. The day my Provari came in was the day I decided I could quit. And, I did. If my first ecig had been a VV or VW mod I probably would have not felt the need for those last few cigs at all.

Now that eGo VV in higher MAH sizes are out most people can get the vape that makes them drop the cigarettes. That wasn't so true back when KR808, Joye 510, and the first eGo's were most of the options. Cartos helped a lot. Before that the cartridge was a pain to get a good vape from.

We were all experimenting with different fillers and techniques in search of the perfect vape. It didn't really exist until VV hit the market. Even the mechs with large batteries didn't flavor up until people started using lower and lower resistances.

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Started with Blu, and still love their presence and customer service. The flavors have proven very difficult to replicate, but once I felt I got close enough with two individual (and expensive) sets of combined liquids I had to get from 3 different suppliers (LOL) I needed something to start testing them with other than old Blu cartomizers. I still have my batts & pcc's, but I strapped Kangar t4's to the premium 100 batts and i'm in heaven now.

I think for a lot of people the upgrade decision comes when you need to make/try/add different juices or determine a need for greater capacity or vapor production. Because all that aside, Blu nailed it on a lot of levels. If they sold the juice and a tank system, I know a lot of people would run back in a heart beat. I haven't had an analog since Dec 8th, 2013 and I owe that to Blu. They just replicate the experience of reaching for a pack, taking out a ready to go ciggy, and smoking. Furthermore, you're never without when a battery is always charged. This is the longest time in 2 decades i've felt even remotely satisfied with a tobacco alternative and i'm gonna ride my batteries and warranties out, even if they have to serve as backups to something bigger some day.

Right now i'm just struggling with a PCC that holds the t4's out of the box so I can continue that experience. I didn't do this to quit smoking, I did this to quit tobacco, so I very much still enjoy the entire smoking experience otherwise.

Onto the VV question, my background prompts a great understanding of this system. In all honesty, I don't see the need for it when voltage and current have a direct relationship with wattage. I think Variable voltage merely offers you an option on controlling coil burn rate in contrast to say, just swapping to a different coil resistance. Because overall yield at the load (coil) can be altered by changing more than one variable. You can change the presented load, or vary the voltage presented under load. Either will change the final outcome of the equation. If anything I view variable voltage as an opportunity to use whatever coil you might have laying around and get desirable results. that's the final word on that. Hope that helps, first post!
 
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I started out on the V2 cig-a-like (808's) for about 2 months, moved up to the eGo for another 2, bought 2 spinners 1300mAh and was thrilled. I then got the eGo C pass-throughs 1100mAh which I love and still use. My next purchase was the iTaste 3vv 800mAh pass-through but the low mAh keeps me from using it as an out and about pv so I got the MVP 2 and that was a Happy Happy moment with it's 2600mAh battery. So within the first 6 months that's what I got. In my 11th month I decided to upgrade to the mods with external batteries and bought a VTR at a great Black Friday price. Then I had some extra money come through and bought a Provari. I was Wowed by them. Because I had several extra batteries I bought a Vamo 2 just to try it out, it's ok and I like having it as a backup. Yep I have quite a few items, but none will go to waste as I will pay them forward to someone who wants to quit like I did.
 
Billy, I actually still have 3 packs of Blu cartridges left and used one shortly after I got my Evod, It was a much better vape than Blu batt but it only lasted like 40 puffs before I cashed it. The 3.7V burns thru it super quick.

Patkin, thanks for your take, I tend to get engulfed in my hobbies and splurge ie spent way too much $$$ in my mid 20's modding my Bimmer. Luckily vaping is a much cheaper habit lol.


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Matthew, what I loved about the Blu was its size and ability to charge on the go with a PCC. I work in a restaurant and when I needed a puff I could just walk down the hallway towards the restroom and inconspicuously vape. Since it is so tiny I could grasp it in my hand to conceal it and the vapor wasn't too cloudy.


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